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[game_Playah]

Yea, it's definitely time to stop supporting GGG. It's 2015, they don't have even basic guild features or functionality, no trade system, and I'm 100% sure, and by 100% sure I mean I can almost prove, that GGG employees work with Ventor and AXN to enable and facilitate RMT and that the "unknown" recipes are, indeed known to Ventor and AXN and their guilds.

GGG are hyper sketchy, can't spend any time making guilds functionable, or add a toggle-off for rain and ground shit, can't streamline to get rid of cruel difficulty, can't be arsed to ban people who use Nazi/Hitler references in chat every minutes, the list of shit the game is lacking is the longest in the industry, and on top of that, only about 1 in 600-1,000 items you find are remotely usable, let alone finding upgrades or items that allow you to spec into a fun build.

The game is complete shit, and they most likely are doing this on purpose.

PLUS if you watch twitch, you can see streamers peer over to a second monitor every 3-4 seconds, obviously with a HUD over up on that other monitor.

The game and the devs are complete crap. "Oh hai, gais... just to let you know this is an announcement about the fact that soom (TM) we have have an announcement on how you can buy the New MTX", even if yes, there is little substantive content, fixes, upgrades, concerns listened to, or new features added (cough cough, I'm looking at you, trading system).

GGG on every level as a game company are shit, and they only have themselves to blame when the game crashes and burns as the new Diablo-inspired (but much better coded) games come out over the next 9 months.

[sicktight]

Steam user here was banned. Emailed support and they won't overturn. Will not start a new account. Too much was invested in the banned one so I uninstalled.

[xrrrx]

Steam user here was banned. Emailed support and they won't overturn. Will not start a new account. Too much was invested in the banned one so I uninstalled.

+1 uninstall , if some1 avoid ban or get something back from support pls reply here

[pootisbb]

GGG has conclusive proof you hacked with the logs they obtained from the anticheat, there's no point appealing.

[game_Playah]

They don't have conclusive anything. Not sure how much LSD you took today, but running a program/exe on my machine is not an indication of... well, anything. Moreover, I'm allowed by law (which is the only issue to be considered here) to download the .exe I find here on this site and run them, repercussion-free. That's the end of the story.

[aldololoz]

They don't have conclusive anything. Not sure how much LSD you took today, but running a program/exe on my machine is not an indication of... well, anything. Moreover, I'm allowed by law (which is the only issue to be considered here) to download the .exe I find here on this site and run them, repercussion-free. That's the end of the story.

And they got the right to ban the **** out of you without providing you with a reason for the action. Your account is not yours, once you register they don't even have to delete your data.

Got banned on two accounts, I thought it was the bot...But then I realized it was a ****ing poehud. I botted my way to 93 in hc without any issues 12h a day and more, then i stopped botting and started using hud during the race...and boom.

Accounts won't be unbanned. I just hope they won't ruin my game experience by shutting down gurud's multiscript...

[abacksloth]

Moreover, I'm allowed by law (which is the only issue to be considered here) to download the .exe I find here on this site and run them, repercussion-free. That's the end of the story.

Repercussion free in terms of criminal prosecution, of course.

But it's their game. They can do what they want with it. States that in the ToS, which you signed the moment you created an account.

"Unless otherwise stated in these Terms of Use, Grinding Gear Games is the owner or licensee of all rights including all copyright, trade marks and other intellectual property rights relating to or included within the Website, Materials and Services (“Rights”).... include without limitation all rights in respect of all graphics, logos, text, images and all other elements included in and deriving from the gameplay and virtual world featured in POE, including without limitation in-game names, characters, locations and any virtual items (“Virtual Items”) and their associated benefits or properties acquired or provided for use within POE."

In other words, they aren't banning you. They're banning an account, which they own. Not you.

A Blizzlike warning for the paying customers would be enough for me to never touch this thing again.

They did issue a warning.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1181189

They stated explicitly it was the only warning they would issue. Ever.

Honestly, your fault for not researching the consequences in-depth. I stopped using this the moment that warning was issued.

[henkiedemol]

Steam client user here, got banned.

Tried to petition, told no. The only thing that seems odd is this account's never had any warnings, I thought they usually issued at least one before a perma ban.

alright thanks for info.

[game_Playah]

Repercussion free in terms of criminal prosecution, of course.

But it's their game. They can do what they want with [their game]. States that in the ToS, which you [didn't] signed the moment you created an account.

"Unless otherwise stated in these Terms of Use, Grinding Gear Games is the owner or licensee of all rights including all copyright, trade marks and other intellectual property rights relating to or included within the Website, Materials and Services (“Rights”).... include without limitation all rights in respect of all graphics, logos, text, images and all other elements included in and deriving from the gameplay and virtual world featured in POE, including without limitation in-game names, characters, locations and any virtual items (“Virtual Items”) and their associated benefits or properties acquired or provided for use within POE."

In other words, they aren't banning you. They're banning an account, which they own. Not you.

What you state, or attempted to state but didn't know what you mean to say, is sorta correct. You MIGHT find a judge who will grant ggg license to make some on-the-fly adjustments to how the game is run, and if people are hurting sales or flanagling the system sure, what you wrote and what is referred to would cover such a scenario.

In the country I live in, the good Ole US of A, we have federal laws that cover how you deal with things that are purchased. And I guarantee you the $800 I spent on tabs and MTX weren't actually given to me by the good ****s, er folks of ggg, but rather, taken out of my bank account, I'm going to tell you conclusively, every lawyer and judge in the country would agree with me that yes, I bought those things, to be used on the account I created called "Pl0zNoBannerino".

They banned me, because I don't have another account, and therefore my person, by typing the information that I used 2 minutes before the Bannerino took place has been prevented from accessing the $800, or $820 can't be positive actually, from enjoying that $800.

Terms of usage aren't contracts. They are, as you and agree terms of use. Not contracts. My law firm that I worked at agree with me, that buying something, and ggg accepting payment, means I own it. There is no way to lease or rent or peer through a window at MTX you put on lay-a-way.

[xrrrx]

And they got the right to ban the **** out of you without providing you with a reason for the action. Your account is not yours, once you register they don't even have to delete your data.

Got banned on two accounts, I thought it was the bot...But then I realized it was a ****ing poehud. I botted my way to 93 in hc without any issues 12h a day and more, then i stopped botting and started using hud during the race...and boom.

Accounts won't be unbanned. I just hope they won't ruin my game experience by shutting down gurud's multiscript...

Wich bot are you using for?

[abacksloth]

And I guarantee you the $800 I spent on tabs and MTX weren't actually given to me by the good ****s, er folks of ggg, but rather, taken out of my bank account, I'm going to tell you conclusively, every lawyer and judge in the country would agree with me that yes, I bought those things

My law firm that I worked at agree with me, that buying something, and ggg accepting payment, means I own it. There is no way to lease or rent or peer through a window at MTX you put on lay-a-way.

Then they didn't properly read through the ToS and how each clause correlates with each other.

I won't bother posting the wall of text here, but read the sections regarding Rights (as above), License, Points and Points Cancellation.

The relevant segments are that the License is roughly equivalent to a lease, which they can terminate at any time and thus anything "you" (ie, they, by association of owning the account) have accrued in that time is also theirs to terminate or remove. Like being evicted and then repossessed.

Pursuant to that, you are not, in fact, purchasing MTX's. You are purchasing GGG Points, which you can then redeem in the in-game store. The poignant segment of note is:

"in the event of the cancellation of your Member Account any unused Points you currently hold will automatically be deemed to also be cancelled."

In short, although this isn't quite an appropriate analogy it's the closest I can think of at the moment, it's like renting a car. You pay for the privilege of driving the car and you are held responsible for all expenses related to the rental of the vehicle but at no point do you actually own the vehicle.

Relevant to the terms of use versus contract argument, a legitimate terms of service/use document is legally-binding, and thus effectively contractual, and any violation of a ToS is thus considered breach of contract. Look up Schnabel v Trilegiant Corp.

[henkiedemol]

What you state, or attempted to state but didn't know what you mean to say, is sorta correct. You MIGHT find a judge who will grant ggg license to make some on-the-fly adjustments to how the game is run, and if people are hurting sales or flanagling the system sure, what you wrote and what is referred to would cover such a scenario.

In the country I live in, the good Ole US of A, we have federal laws that cover how you deal with things that are purchased. And I guarantee you the $800 I spent on tabs and MTX weren't actually given to me by the good ****s, er folks of ggg, but rather, taken out of my bank account, I'm going to tell you conclusively, every lawyer and judge in the country would agree with me that yes, I bought those things, to be used on the account I created called "Pl0zNoBannerino".

They banned me, because I don't have another account, and therefore my person, by typing the information that I used 2 minutes before the Bannerino took place has been prevented from accessing the $800, or $820 can't be positive actually, from enjoying that $800.

Terms of usage aren't contracts. They are, as you and agree terms of use. Not contracts. My law firm that I worked at agree with me, that buying something, and ggg accepting payment, means I own it. There is no way to lease or rent or peer through a window at MTX you put on lay-a-way.

gl on that buddy but that is not how things work

[darkbluefirefly]

I was pointed to this thread because my Buyers thought I had lost my farm in this ban wave. Nope. Then I read game_Playah's posts and loled.
game_Playah, until you prove or get your "points" into actual working facts. We take what you say with a grain of salt lol. You need to think realistically. GGG is in New Zealand. How does US laws work half way(welp, maybe 1/3 way across the globe? It doesn't, unless you are dealing with cyber crime of the state, or drug related. You will be wasting money that you do not have, you are a speck in the sand, that sandcastle doesn't care about you. The Devs of this program are no way at fault, they have stated numerous times the consequences, not only that, the whole dam project is open source.. lol.

[Treasure_Box]

I was pointed to this thread because my Buyers thought I had lost my farm in this ban wave. Nope. Then I read game_Playah's posts and loled.
game_Playah, until you prove or get your "points" into actual working facts. We take what you say with a grain of salt lol. You need to think realistically. GGG is in New Zealand. How does US laws work half way(welp, maybe 1/3 way across the globe? It doesn't, unless you are dealing with cyber crime of the state, or drug related. You will be wasting money that you do not have, you are a speck in the sand, that sandcastle doesn't care about you. The Devs of this program are no way at fault, they have stated numerous times the consequences, not only that, the whole dam project is open source.. lol.

Mostly He and a few others are just butt hurt and want to cry about the fact that they where banned because they where caught using 3rd party tools that gave them an unfair advantage when compared to other non HUD POE players. They likely are one: lacking in programming skills to take on this sort of project on their own, and or too lazy to try and learn how to program in the first place. Again they are just upset that they got there hands smacked because they made the choice to run off with the cookie jar.


Is Path of Exile lacking in desired features? Yes, of course it is, other wise parts of the program would not not exist. POE HUD offer features like item information (stat range, mods, ect) that should be in game by default, and are already present in other ARPG games, but it also offers things like preloaded alerts for helping to farm zones for specific things like boxes or exiles, that a normal player would not know about without the HUD.

I do believe that GGG is guilty of being lazy themselves, as they for a long time said things like item filters and highlighting where not possible, but low and behold some one creates their own program that was able to do just that. I'm sure they looked at the code for the HUD and said, well lets just take this and modify it so we can run it internally using our API and not have to be reliant on GDI calls and outside hooks.... and just play it off as their own work.

Honestly i don't play this game to RTM, i have used things like zoom out (default levels just feel too close), preload alert, and the item expanded tool-tips so i don't have to alt tab to POEMods to compare different tier stats on items. Why, because it makes the game more enjoyable for me. Is it currently a violation of GGG's TOS and if I'm caught using the tools, will i be ban? Absolutely, but i accept that, as for me the game is not really enjoyable without them. I ACCEPT THAT RISK, AND BLAME NO ONE BUT MYSELF IF I AM BANNED.

In-fact, if there was a semi-closed sourced, or closed community tool set, that was a reasonable price, i wouldn't mind ponying up for it, as i think the users base would be less self entitled.

[henkiedemol]

Mostly He and a few others are just butt hurt and want to cry about the fact that they where banned because they where caught using 3rd party tools that gave them an unfair advantage when compared to other non HUD POE players. They likely are one: lacking in programming skills to take on this sort of project on their own, and or too lazy to try and learn how to program in the first place. Again they are just upset that they got there hands smacked because they made the choice to run off with the cookie jar.


Is Path of Exile lacking in desired features? Yes, of course it is, other wise parts of the program would not not exist. POE HUD offer features like item information (stat range, mods, ect) that should be in game by default, and are already present in other ARPG games, but it also offers things like preloaded alerts for helping to farm zones for specific things like boxes or exiles, that a normal player would not know about without the HUD.

I do believe that GGG is guilty of being lazy themselves, as they for a long time said things like item filters and highlighting where not possible, but low and behold some one creates their own program that was able to do just that. I'm sure they looked at the code for the HUD and said, well lets just take this and modify it so we can run it internally using our API and not have to be reliant on GDI calls and outside hooks.... and just play it off as their own work.

Honestly i don't play this game to RTM, i have used things like zoom out (default levels just feel too close), preload alert, and the item expanded tool-tips so i don't have to alt tab to POEMods to compare different tier stats on items. Why, because it makes the game more enjoyable for me. Is it currently a violation of GGG's TOS and if I'm caught using the tools, will i be ban? Absolutely, but i accept that, as for me the game is not really enjoyable without them. I ACCEPT THAT RISK, AND BLAME NO ONE BUT MYSELF IF I AM BANNED.

In-fact, if there was a semi-closed sourced, or closed community tool set, that was a reasonable price, i wouldn't mind ponying up for it, as i think the users base would be less self entitled.

preach it brotha!