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[Fault]

This is a hard one, not sure if you can or have answered it, but how does religion work in WoW. Ive never seen a direct reference to a god or a higher being. There are cultists, but there is no references to a 'god' that they follow. Also, how does death work in warcraft. I know in wow u can die and la de da, nothing happened, so well is there really a finnal death, like what Grom suffered, or no, thats just one of those differences between WC and WoW? Idk i was wondering from a RP aspect, how can u kill Rag, Ony, Nef, and others, multiple times? Have fun with that

[Maverike]

What about some info on Ravenholdt (forget his first name). He is the head of an assasians (spelling?) guild, he has to have some awsome stories behind his name Also do you know anything about The Undermine a zone originally ment to be implemented but the idea was scrapped. I know it is some kind of Goblin zone but thats about all.. =P

[Alkhara Majere]

This is a hard one, not sure if you can or have answered it, but how does religion work in WoW. Ive never seen a direct reference to a god or a higher being. There are cultists, but there is no references to a 'god' that they follow. Also, how does death work in warcraft. I know in wow u can die and la de da, nothing happened, so well is there really a finnal death, like what Grom suffered, or no, thats just one of those differences between WC and WoW? Idk i was wondering from a RP aspect, how can u kill Rag, Ony, Nef, and others, multiple times? Have fun with that

Fault, Ill need a day or so to get the Religon info..there is alot.
The death systems and the fact you kill mobs over and over again is needed for the gameplay..there is no RP or lore behind it

[Fault]

Fault, Ill need a day or so to get the Religon info..there is alot.
The death systems and the fact you kill mobs over and over again is needed for the gameplay..there is no RP or lore behind it

Thought as much about death. But if u really are a lore whore, i wanna hear more about religion, lol

[Scarmaker]

Hey Alkhara, you said in your psot about someones sis, that she married someone with the alst name as Prestor... is that someon related to Katrina Prestor (Onxyia)? BTW What is the story behind Deathwing. I know he tried to create chromatic dragonflight, and is father to Onx. and Nef. Is there any other history about him?
Also who is Onx/Nef Mother?

[Alkhara Majere]

Hey Alkhara, you said in your psot about someones sis, that she married someone with the alst name as Prestor... is that someon related to Katrina Prestor (Onxyia)? BTW What is the story behind Deathwing. I know he tried to create chromatic dragonflight, and is father to Onx. and Nef. Is there any other history about him?
Also who is Onx/Nef Mother?

Please refer to the former posts on this forum, and the Timeline posted on the first page.

[Nugma]

Who / what is Stormreaver?A longer answer would be nice Since i like the WoW lore, and reading big walls of texts doesent really matter to me

[Alkhara Majere]

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This is a hard one, not sure if you can or have answered it, but how does religion work in WoW. Ive never seen a direct reference to a god or a higher being. There are cultists, but there is no references to a 'god' that they follow.

Known Religions

* The Holy Light
o Members: Humans, Ironforge Dwarves, Wildhammer dwarves, High Elves, Naaru, Draenei, Blood Elves (somewhat)
o Organizations: The Silver Hand, The Argent Dawn, The Scarlet Crusade, The Brotherhood of the Light

* Shamanism
o Members: Orcs, Trolls, Tauren, Draenei, Furbolg, Wildhammer Dwarves
o Organizations: The Earthen Ring

* Druidism
o Members: Night Elves, Tauren, Half-elves, Wildhammer dwarves, Furbolg (debated)
o Organizations: The Cenarion Circle

* Elune
o Members: Night Elves
o Organizations: Sisters of Elune, Priestesses of the Moon, Sentinels

* Shadow and Necromancy
o Members: Undead beings, living followers
o Organizations: The Cult of the Damned, The Scourge

* Fel and Demonology
o Members: Warlocks, Demons, Satyr, Fel Orcs, Fel-corrupted races
o Organizations: The Burning Legion, Illidan's faction, The Shadow Council

* Followers of The Old Gods
o Members: Naga, Elementals (not anymore), Qiraji
o Organizations: The Twilight's Hammer Clan

* Voodoo and Loa-worship
o Members: [I]Trolls

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I had a massive block of text here, about the seperate religions. I deleted it due to the massive amount of space it took up. If anyone wishes to learn more about any paticular religions, post the question and Ill do that.

[Scarmaker]

Please refer to the former posts on this forum, and the Timeline posted on the first page.

I searched and only found that Nefarian created and unleashed the Chromatic Dragonflght... please answer my question.

[Maverike]

Umm.. j/w if you saw the post right below Faults one first asking about religion.. you posted same time as me so you probably didnt see a post added =/ Sorry just really interested in learning some of this stuff =)

[Alkhara Majere]

Who / what is Stormreaver?A longer answer would be nice Since i like the WoW lore, and reading big walls of texts doesent really matter to me

Stormreaver Clan

Leader: Gul'dan the Warlock
Clan Colors: Blue



The Stormreavers are a small but powerful clan whose origins are fixed in the history of the Horde since its coming to Azeroth. As the last of his kind, the Warlock Gul’dan maintains absolute control over this clan. Gul’dan, who secretly ruled the Horde through his unwitting puppet Blackhand, has found that the shrewd Doomhammer harbors no trust or fondness for him. This forced Gul’dan to found the Stormreavers in order to protect himself from any action Orgrim might take against him. With the support of his clan, Gul’dan intends to find the lost Tomb of Sargeras. It is legend that this Tomb contains unimaginable power - power which Gul’dan means to possess.

The Clan was assigned to defend the Horde's positions at Stormwind and Balor, but betrayed Doomhammer and hastened to the Broken Isles to raise the Tomb of Sargeras from the ocean floor. Stormreaver's warriors were slaughtered by Doomhammer and the Blackrock Clan when he exacted his revenge and their spellcasters torn apart by the Guardians of the Tomb. Those few Stormreaver Warlocks and Necrolytes who survived wander the world, their only company the ghosts of their fallen comrades (see: Drak'thul).

Survivors were seen as neutral creeps in WarCraft III.

What about some info on Ravenholdt (forget his first name). He is the head of an assasians (spelling?) guild, he has to have some awsome stories behind his name Also do you know anything about The Undermine a zone originally ment to be implemented but the idea was scrapped. I know it is some kind of Goblin zone but thats about all.. =P

I'm sorry, but no lore exists outside of WoW for Ravenholdt. All sources of information comes from inside WoW alone, and all I know is this-

"Ravenholdt is a guild of thieves and assassins which welcomes only those of extraordinary prowess into its fold. They are diametrically opposed to the Syndicate, and are a rogue-only faction as all quests are rogue-only quests."

I wish lore existed for Ravenholdt...Im interested myself.

Hey Alkhara, you said in your psot about someones sis, that she married someone with the alst name as Prestor... is that someon related to Katrina Prestor (Onxyia)?

Deathwing as Lord Daval Prestor
For a time after the Second War, Deathwing disguised himself as a human nobleman named Lord Prestor, and attempted to gain control over the nation of Alterac (Alterac had been annexed by the Alliance after Lord Perenolde's betrayal) by marrying Calia Menethil, the daughter of King Terenas.

Through magic, he managed to make himself extremely popular with King Terenas and the nobles (including, surprisingly, the stubborn Genn Greymane of Gilneas, and Lord Admiral Daelin Proudmoore) and for a while gained strong influence in the decisions of state. His ultimate goal was to obtain a high level of power and influence within the Alliance, so he could destroy it from within.

When Deathwing was forced to go into hiding, he was no longer able to keep up the disguise. Lord Prestor mysteriously vanished, and Deathwing's infuence over the nobles disappeared along with him, although his daughter Onyxia followed in her father's footsteps taking the Prestor name to attempt to also manipulate the Alliance. The only one to ever fully uncover the truth about his identity was the dragon mage Krasus, the high elf form of Korialstrasz (so presumably Alexstrasza knows as well). However, the Kirin Tor were able to discern that he was powerful being hiding in a human form. The mage Rhonin recognized the form Deathwing took as Daval Prestor, but did not know his name.


Daval Prestor during the Beta

BTW What is the story behind Deathwing. I know he tried to create chromatic dragonflight, and is father to Onx. and Nef. Is there any other history about him?
I searched and only found that Nefarian created and unleashed the Chromatic Dragonflght

Deathwing the Destroyer/Neltharion the Earth-Warder
Khaz'Goroth, the Titan shaper and forger of the world, bestowed some of his vast power upon the mighty black wyrm, Neltharion. The great-hearted Neltharion, known afterwards as the Earth-warder was given dominion over the earth and the deep places of the world. He embodied the strength of the world and served as Alexstrasza's greatest supporter. But as Deathwing the Destroyer, he would become her greatest enemy...

The War of the Ancients
Neltharion has control over the land, and its fathoms, including lava. His main attack is a spit of Core lava fire. He can live within volcanoes and high temperature areas. It is rumored that he was able to find the prison of the Old Gods. The inner-voices of the three Old gods convinced him that he could have power beyond his imagination if he served them. The voices made him paranoid of even his black dragonflight. Neltharion wanted a world where only he and his dragonflight and some servants that yield to him could exist — a world where all the other dragonflights no longer existed, and where Ysera and Alexstrasza would be his petty slaves for mating.

The Old gods convinced Neltharion to create the Dragon Soul (later known as the Demon Soul). With the help of goblins, Neltharion created a simple golden disc made of Neltharion's blood and forged in the goblin's cauldrons and anvils deep beneath the earth.

Empowered by Neltharion's magic, the simple golden disc was shielded magically so that the other Dragon Aspects couldn't see within the disc. There was an evil within the disc, some taint of the Old Gods. It is unknown as to what content of the Old Gods the disc had. Neltharion captured a demon of the Burning Legion during the War of the Ancients and placed the Dragon Soul on its forehead. The demon was consumed, leaving just his ashes and skull. Neltharion removed the disc from the remains of the demon's skull.

Back in the den of the Dragon Aspects, Neltharion convinced Malygos to help him with the other Dragon Aspects. All of them agreed to give a portion of their powers to the Dragon Soul, including all dragons of their dragonflights. Neltharion proposed that the Dragon Soul disc could be a weapon of great power to destroy the demons of the Burning Legion.

Neltharion, the Dragon Aspects and their dragonflights flew toward Zin-Azshari where the Night Elves held the demons at bay. The Ancients had not come. Seeing the sky full of dragons, the Night Elves thought they were now going to win the war. Heralded by the black dragon Neltharion, the dragons awaited his first attack. Neltharion grabbed the Dragon Soul and by channeling his destructive power through it decimated most of the demons with one swing of radiant magic. The Dragon Aspects watched in horror as Neltharion also killed hundreds of Night Elves and other allies along with the demons.

Neltharion revealed the depths of his betrayal at last. He was the only one who did not give of his powers to the Dragon Soul. Now with the disc at his command he wanted all races and the demons to see his power and to bow to him. The Dragon Aspects attacked Neltharion in an attempt to take the Dragon Soul from him and to reason with him in hopes of determining the cause of his perfidy.

Malygos' Blue Dragonflight surrounded Neltharion, but with a swing of the Demon Soul most of the blue dragons perished. The next swing of the Demon Soul paralyzed all dragonflights and the Dragon Aspects in mid-air, rendering them unable to move or speak. Only Alexstrasza was allowed by Neltharion to speak when he wished.

The growing corruption in Neltharion's heart warped his body, as the angelic dragon began taking a more demonic appearance similar to how Sargeras changed to a more demonic form after his corruption. Neltharion's body cracked open, revealing his molten heart, and magma and fire flowed off his chest. His eyes became aflame in red, demonstrating the magnitude of his power and the depths of his evil. Thus was Deathwing the Destroyer born.

The Rise of the Destroyer

Neltharion's betrayal had striken a great blow to the Aspects, and their fear to be destroyed like the blue dragonflight kept them in seclusion. Deathwing returned to his lair beneath a mountain. His proximity to the Demon Soul was ripping his body apart, so the Goblins forged an armor of adamantium to serve as a vessel to contain Deathwing's raging powers in check. Only the adamantium plates kept the power from destroying his body.

The Old Gods had manipulated Deathwing into creating the Demon Soul, but their true intention was that the demons would inform their lord Sargeras of the great power of the weapon used against them. Sargeras would no doubt want the Demon Soul to power the gateway that would let him enter Azeroth.

By using the Demon Soul to amplify the gateway, the three Old Gods hoped to escape their prison beneath the planet. However, Malfurion Stormrage used the Emerald Dream to find Deathwing's lair and stole the Demon Soul from the black dragon. Malfurion could hear the voices of the Old Gods coming from within the Demon Soul, asking him to wield the power. He used the Demon Soul to escape by opening a path through the mountain.

The more Malfurion used the Demon Soul's power, the more tainted he became with the voices. Malfurion finally broke away from the corrupting thoughts, and put the Demon Soul away, lest he be tempted to use it.

Illidan and Varo'then captured Malfurion and took the Demon Soul. Varo'then, successor in command in replacement to Lord Xavius by order of Queen Azshara, held the Demon Soul on their way back to Zin-Azshari. During his travel, even Varo'then felt the whisperings of the Old Gods. Once at the palace, Varo'then gave the Demon Soul to Mannoroth the Destructor, the general of the Legion's armies. It was used to power up the portal that would allow Sargeras to enter Azeroth.

After the Burning Legion was defeated, the Dragon Aspects sealed the Demon Soul with their energies, and now Neltharion may never use the Demon Soul. The artifact was hidden in an undisclosed location by Malfurion at the request of the Dragon Aspects. No longer in possession of the artifact and now unable to use it, Neltharion vowed to destroy most life and to wreak havoc on the planet. With his powers over earth, Neltharion caused volcanoes to rise along with the destruction already caused by the Well of Eternity's implosion, sinking most of Kalimdor below the ocean.

The Second War
Ten thousand years later, near the end of the Second War, the black dragon traveled through the Dark Portal to Draenor. Believing the world to be a relatively safe haven for his offspring, he secreted away a cache of black dragon eggs. Following the war, Ner'zhul recklessly opened multiple portals on Draenor, and the magical stress tore the planet apart. The energies released in this catastrophe altered Deathwing's eggs, resulting in the nether drakes: partially corporeal and partially ethereal dragons who possess the ability to shift between the astral and physical planes. Without Deathwing's guidance, these otherworldly nether drakes are just now finding their own way among the blasted ruins of Outland.

Originally (in Warcraft 2) Deathwing was slain by the Alliance Expedition on Draenor, some time before Ner'zhul's actions doomed the planet. The novel Day of the Dragon revised this to the current history.

After the separation from his offspring on Draenor, Deathwing discovered the Demon Soul's location. Although he couldn't wield its power because of the enchantment placed upon it by the Dragon Aspects, he realized that he could manipulate someone else to do so. And eventually he found the perfect pawns: the orcs of the Dragonmaw Clan.

Kryll, a goblin servant of Deathwing, was sent to infiltrate the Dragonmaw Clan and to serve the warlock Nekros Skullcrusher. Nekros ended up being manipulated by Kryll into doing Deathwing's bidding. Nekros was given the Demon Soul by his Chieftain, Zuluhed the Whacked, who believed that the warlock would have more luck in using it than the shaman himself had. Although Nekros had no clue as to the power he was wielding, he was able to tap into enough of its power to kidnap Alexstrasza, her elder consort Tyranastrasz and some of her eggs. The goblin served as an "advisor" to Nekros, whispering ideas to the orc in order to further Deathwing's aims.

Deathwing used his many pawns to manipulate the mage Rhonin. Rhonin was also being manipulated by the red dragon Korialstrasz, Deathwing's nemesis, into an attempt to free Korialstrasz's lover Alexstrasza, trapped in Grim Batol. Deathwing tried to frighten the Orcs into believing that the Humans were attacking, so that they would move Alexstrasza, and more importantly her eggs, north to Dun Algaz, leaving her open for attack and her eggs vulnerable. Deathwing wished to steal Alextrasza's latest cache for himself to create a new dragonflight — though bearing the crimson scales of the Dragonqueen, they would be raised by Deathwing and carry his hatred for the mortal races.

His attack, however, failed. Rhonin discovered the weakness of the Demon Soul and destroyed it, releasing all the powers of the dragons who had given their power ten thousand years earlier. Deathwing was sent retreating with four very angry, fully-empowered Dragon Aspects on his heels.

It is said that it will be long before he attempts to once again cause havoc upon the world. Onyxia and Nefarian, offspring of Deathwing and masters of the Black Dragonflight in the absence of their father, now try to take control over the world. Onyxia's lair is in the Wyrmbog in Southern Dustwallow Marsh on Kalimdor, while Nefarian's lair is now Blackrock Spire, atop the Blackrock Mountain in the Burning Steppes.

Onyxia is posing as a human counselor for the new child King of Stormwind under the name of Lady Katrana Prestor (an homage to her father's alias during the Alterac crisis). Nefarian poses as a human named Lord Victor Nefarius, Lord of the Blackrock Mountain. He was able to enslave the Blackrock Clan orcs who now serve him. Nefarian wishes to take control of the lower Blackrock Mountain, trying to destroy the Dark Iron Dwarves and Ragnaros. Once the nuisance has been dealt with, Nefarian plans to take control of the world, while his sister Onyxia destroys the Alliance from within as Lady Prestor.

Of Deathwing, nothing is known. Not even his offspring knows. He could be hiding, but another rumor from Warcraft RPG: Lands of Conflict is that Deathwing might possibly be held prisoner by Alexstrasza at Grim Batol. Whether true or not, Alexstrasza and the Red Dragonflight do not let anyone near Grim Batol, for they are protecting something zealously within the walls of the fortress. It's improbable Deathwing returned to his lair on Draenor, since the Portals were closed, but there is a slim chance. The other Aspects are loathe to eliminate him, as the consequences are unforseeable.

Also who is Onx/Nef Mother?

One of Deathwings many consorts

For the hell of it-
Memorable Quotes

Alexstrasza: "I would prefer to give Nozdormu more time before we begin."

Malygos: "Give the Timeless One more time? How droll! I will not let dour Nozdormu leave without pressing him on that jest!"

Neltharion: "Yes and you will press him time and time again with it, will you not?"
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Neltharion: "I am power incarnate! You are nothing but shadows of the past!"

Alexstrasza: "Never underestimate what you may learn from the past, dark one..."
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Neltharion: "Have you not been through enough? Will you continue to fight what you cannot defeat?"

Alexstrasza: "You have caused too much misery, too much horror, Deathwing. Not just to us, but to the mortal creatures of this world!"

Neltharion: "What are they to me — or, for that matter, even you? I will never understand that!"

Alexstrasza: "No... you never will..."
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THERE!!! I think Ive caught up on peoples questions Still, lots of room for more. Go!

[Scarmaker]

Thank you very much Alkhara. You want more questions, I would gladly oblige . What is all the lore on Ragnaros. What is all the lroe on the Old Gods? Like you the hell are they? Is the thing in darkshore with the huge sword through the skulls eye, was that one of the old gods? Who slayed them, who created them, what did they do? Enough questions?

[Maverike]

=( Too bad they need to build up on Ravenholdt ><

Also do you know anything about The Undermine a zone originally ment to be implemented but the idea was scrapped. I know it is some kind of Goblin zone but thats about all.. =P

^Know anything about this?^ or did I miss a post

[better_name_than_urs]

Highlord Bolvar Fordragon

[ff9pro]

Hey, who/waht is alexstrasza?