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    Originally Posted by fintroll20 View Post
    I did Morchock 10 normal today and wiped at Yor'sajh at 15%.
    Also did Halion 25HM. Hope they don't fix it that soon :>
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    how did you enter Dragon soul at lvl 80 ? , i cant go in.

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    Originally Posted by diablo32 View Post
    how did you enter Dragon soul at lvl 80 ? , i cant go in.
    Get an level 85 or higher and group up with him, and enter the portal with him at the same time, that worked for me.

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    Just solo'd lich king 25 heroic, last try before I was going to ragequit. 25 attempts, not bad tbh.

    Didn't realise how random it can be :S

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    The question is, can a lvl 80 prot paladin solo all the way through ICC to get to Heroic LK?

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    you can solo mop raids the same way, any lvl 80+ raids even
    Last edited by Luxywinz; 01-02-2013 at 06:29 PM.

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    Apparently all bosses except valithria and gunship as someone said earlier, and I think they'd be right. Gunship was fixed for players to solo in 5.1, but I don't think you could get enough vengeance to kill the mage quick enough to kill the other boat before yours (I could be totally wrong idk). And for valithria, someone said it was doable on 10 man normal. Even getting in a friend's alt to help you do those 2 fights might be easy enough.

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    Well..so far on the 5.2 PTR, nothing has changed with my pally, but you know Blizzard, they'll probably change something last minute

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    I fail with my vengeance alot now..

    Are there no tricks (except bossswingtimers) to see when to cast SotR ?
    I am stuck now im Blood Queen, sometimes i do insane dps (but the vengeance procs too late or very soon and drop again)

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    Can some1 send the link to the post how to get a level 80 to enter mop raids

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    I got my pally up to 2498 mastery doesnt seem to work^
    any other thing i must know? any abilities to use? any trinkets to get?

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    Originally Posted by apadani View Post
    Can some1 send the link to the post how to get a level 80 to enter mop raids
    When I wanted to get in to the Bastion of Twilight, I just walked into the portal and I was in. There was a 90 already in, the old theory said you had to walk in with a 85+ right after they did.

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    hi guys

    I have soloed Blackwing Descent, Bastion of Twilight, Firelands and Dragonsoul (except for blackhorn - needed someone to eat the voids) on my level 80 Paladin and here is what I've got to say about the whole topic:

    You all know that when you have your passive 70% mastery, you can bug your Vengeance by using SotR exactly when a meele attack hits you.
    Sounds easy? Well, even though I and many others use BossSwingTimer addon, which shows you approximately when you will be hit by a physical attack, there are many factors that make it hard to actually get your Vengeance that high:

    - as a 80 paladin in mop-gear you have about 50% avoidance (45% parry and 5% dodge), that means half of the attacks that MIGHT hit you, won't hit you and consequently Vengeance won't be increased at all. (turning around right before the attack, is nearly impossible because you have to use SotR exactly when hit.)

    - Cataclysm raid bosses will dodge and parry (not that often though)

    - when there are a few mobs hitting you, you have to figure out, which of these mobs will give you the highest Vengeance and THEN hit your main target exactly when this one mob hits you (getting this right during Spine of Deathwing encounter is hard, I can tell you)

    - mobs don't all have the same attack-speed (not to mention dual-wielding mobs)

    - and then ofc you actually have to hit SotR right when you take the meele hit

    ...you can train this but even when your timing is almost always right, there are still unpredictable factors, as mentioned above.

    The thing is, during most Cataclysm encounters you HAVE to keep up a high Vengeance or you die instantly to any given mechanic (in marked contrast to level 90 Deathknights, which can easily survive most deadly mechanics during Cataclysm encounters)

    Besides overcoming any given Cataclysm boss fight alone (which is already a challenge), you have to look out for every single mechanic and be extra careful. One single mistake and you wipe...frustrating for sure, but tbh this is the kind of challenge I strive for.

    So even if you know the encounter by heart and do everything perfectly, you ALSO have to keep a high Vengeance up (which is harder than most Cataclysm encounters).

    IF you should manage to keep a high Vengeance up you are rewarded with higher survivability and higher DPS, depending on the amount of physical damage taken, which makes it possible to solo these encounters.


    My message? Don't judge level 80 Paladin solo kills before you have tried it yourself.
    Last edited by Bibimbapi; 01-02-2013 at 09:54 PM.

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    Originally Posted by xashbringer View Post
    The question is, can a lvl 80 prot paladin solo all the way through ICC to get to Heroic LK?
    yes he can

    Gunship and Valithria Dreamwalker are done on 10 normal while everything else can be done on 25 HC.

    To solo Valithria Dreamwalker use Glyph of the Battle Healer and get a high Vengeance of the Val'kyr at the entrance to heal the bosse's HP up to 8-9 million right at the beginning

    ps: I suggest doing Lady Deathwhisper on 10 normal aswell as the fight is a real pain on 25 heroic, but not impossible.
    Last edited by Bibimbapi; 01-02-2013 at 10:09 PM.

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    51 wipes.. But i did kill the lich king

    Sadly no mount but hey!

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    Finally got my i409 Weapon - what a difference! Took ICC down - LK Vengeance topped out at 4.25 Million. Ridiculous. So much fun!
    Zoidberg: Meursault, give me your vector drawing skills, please.

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