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    That would kill over all dps and Arcane shot would waste the LNL proc.

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    Originally Posted by Blehbot View Post
    That would kill over all dps and Arcane shot would waste the LNL proc.
    Obvious sarcasm is obvious lol

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    Oh sure. (: Plz,lord,rewrite my profile without "re-inventing a wheel".I'm really interested how would you do so.I even ready to eat my pants if yours will perform better in raids than mine

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    Correct me if I am wrong with the rotation

    1. LnL proc
    2. Explosive Shot
    3. Arcane Shot
    4. Explosive shot

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    Originally Posted by DEMADEX View Post
    i apologize i am just sick of looking for one the only ones i could find were from 4.2 any help would be greatly appreciated
    I am trying to get end to work with pqr but I cannot figure it out yet. Once I do I will get a modified version of bubbas rotation up. But so far unholy has Bennett sub par in raids due to blizzard new world mapping system which is the bug with hunter pets not dosing or falling off the platforms/spine etc our pet has the same damn issue imo
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    Originally Posted by Valma View Post
    Oh sure. (: Plz,lord,rewrite my profile without "re-inventing a wheel".I'm really interested how would you do so.I even ready to eat my pants if yours will perform better in raids than mine

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    Originally Posted by sheuron View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong with the rotation

    1. LnL proc
    2. Explosive Shot
    3. Arcane Shot
    4. Explosive shot
    It would be
    1. LNL Proc
    2. Explosive Shot
    3. Explosive Shot
    4. Arcane Shot
    5. Explosive shot.

    The first two fired back to back don't kill dps because of the proc. The Arcane shot gives a global for the dot to tick off then the 5th shot is really after the proc goes away but you want the dot back up asap.

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    Originally Posted by sheuron View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong with the rotation

    1. LnL proc
    2. Explosive Shot
    3. Arcane Shot
    4. Explosive shot
    Correct

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    Originally Posted by Valma View Post
    Oh sure. (: Plz,lord,rewrite my profile without "re-inventing a wheel".I'm really interested how would you do so.I even ready to eat my pants if yours will perform better in raids than mine

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    Originally Posted by imdasandman View Post
    Correct

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    You Sir are wrong.

    1. LNL
    2. Explosive Shot
    3. Explosive Shot
    4. Cobra Shot (low focus)/Arcane Shot (high Focus)
    5. Explosive Shot

    I think i discussed this a couple pages back what with having issues getting it to apply this correctly.
    Last edited by kickmydog; 01-01-2012 at 06:00 PM.

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    Originally Posted by Blehbot View Post
    It would be
    1. LNL Proc
    2. Explosive Shot
    3. Explosive Shot
    4. Arcane Shot
    5. Explosive shot.

    The first two fired back to back don't kill dps because of the proc. The Arcane shot gives a global for the dot to tick off then the 5th shot is really after the proc goes away but you want the dot back up asap.
    I don't think so considering this would cause way more dot clipping than the explosive than arcane.
    That would be a major dps loss and all the theroycrafers state the same. Please link different math saying otherwise


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    Originally Posted by Valma View Post
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    Originally Posted by imdasandman View Post
    I don't think so considering this would cause way more dot clipping than the explosive than arcane.
    That would be a major dps loss and all the theroycrafers state the same. Please link different math saying otherwise


    Go read EJ or some of the other credible hunter sites. Kickmydog is correct. Again its a matter of making pqr do it in this way.

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    Originally Posted by drewdenman View Post
    Love your profile. It's great! DW for PvE AND 2H for PvP.

    Only question is how can I make it not use my trinkets/tinkers? It's blowing them on non-crucial parts and I want to save for lusts/pots, etc.
    The on use trinket is linked to pillar of frost and the tinkers are linked to frost strike. go into abilities and delete the /use 14(second trinket slot) and /use 10 from them and problem solved. also there's a rotation called "Masterfrost trash" that won't blow pillar and therefore wont use your trinket.

    edit: I think it's best to leave tinkers to proc on CD as they put on use trinkets on CD so can't be used with your on use trinket/pillar combo.
    Last edited by Leetjerk; 01-01-2012 at 06:52 PM.

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    Originally Posted by kickmydog View Post
    You Sir are wrong.

    1. LNL
    2. Explosive Shot
    3. Explosive Shot
    4. Cobra Shot (low focus)/Arcane Shot (high Focus)
    5. Explosive Shot

    I think i discussed this a couple pages back what with having issues getting it to apply this correctly.
    Tested your rotation and mine 10 minutes on a raiders dummy

    Your rotation done 18800 dps
    Mine done 21550 dps

    This is what you get doing 2 consecutive explosive shot:

    6700 6700 6700 6700 6700 9700 (6700 is explosive shot tick, 9700 is arcane shot)
    Because of dot overwrite you only get 5 ticks

    This is what you get going expliosive + arcane + exploive

    6700 6700 6700 9700 6700 6700 6700 (3 ticks + arcane shot + 3 ticks)

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    You did this a manual rotation? When I do a manual rotation I get more dps then all of your profiles because of how I do LNL.

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    Originally Posted by bbatotas View Post
    One of the things I was thinking of for the shadow priest profile (and having no knowledge of LUA I don't know if it's even possible) is for threshold to when to cast Vampiric Touch changed dynamically with changes in your haste.

    For example, right now in the shadow priest profile Vampiric Touch is set to cast under the condition that there are less than 4 seconds left on the debuff, but this could be improved. If you can get your character's cast time for Vampiric Touch, the optimal time to cast would be any time the debuff has ((VT tick interval) + (VT cast time)) seconds left.

    If somehow you can track your paper doll haste rating, you could find out the optimal time by using VT tick interval = (3/((Haste/12805)+1))-0.0005) and VT cast time = (1.5/((1+(Haste/12805))*1.0815))

    So, cast VT when the debuff has (3/((Haste/12805)+1))-0.0005)+(1.5/((1+(Haste/12805))*1.0815)) seconds left.

    In addition, it should cast DP only when it's on its last tick, so cast DP when the debuff has (3/((Haste/12805)+1))-0.0005) seconds left.

    Why does this matter? While first, for fights where you get significant haste buffs like Madness, it drastically changes the time you have to refresh VT and DP, and you may get a larger amount of mindflays because your refreshing it perfectly. In addition, it will get the largest dps value out of any haste proc trinket or anything like that.
    Are you sure that math is correct? Because..
    Base Spell Cast Time / (1 + (Haste % / 100)) returns the cast time of any spell for me. In the instance of Vampiric Touch:
    1.5 / (1 + (31.60 / 100)) returns the cast time it should for me: ~1.14s
    In this case (I'm going to assume the haste values here is the Haste Rating, not the Haste %); (1.5/((1+(4047/12805))*1.0815)) = 1.05

    You can see why I'm wondering. :P With some more information, I'm sure I could update the dots take this into account and take weight for latency and Heroism as well.

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    Just my input on the hunter rotation it is my main toon

    And as of 4.3 i use this LnL proc i use ES, CS, ES, AS, AS, then back to my normal rotation until it procs again to me if LnL procs and you do ES, AS you then lose the proc plus if you do 2 instant ES you are clipping the first = dps loss

    If i'm wrong please tell me

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    Originally Posted by Blehbot View Post
    You did this a manual rotation? When I do a manual rotation I get more dps then all of your profiles because of how I do LNL.
    How you do LnL?

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