Viper FFXIV Bot

[Valinou]

You can call me shit that i will not care at all. Maybe i am a shit. But did i asked someone to pay for a software that does not work ? No. Did i ever scammed someone ? No. I let him know my problem and did not even get a proper answer after few days. Why should i be respectful when he's just ignoring me ?

[BlackOpal182]

If I were her, I would ignore you too. Did you ever think that maybe.. just MAYBE a 3rd party forum is the wrong place to be complaining. Try the viper forums. I have a feeling that you are here because you were already banned on those forums.

Start your own thread in the discussion area, hijacking this one for pure trolling just seems, well, kinda lame.

Is there a mute button here? If not, they need it. Shame too they turned off negative reps.

[Valinou]

No i am not banned from his forum. It 's true that i did not complain on his forum but here what i think :

1. My personnal opinion is that viperbot is a scammer
2. His forum is closed to people who have already payed for his software.
3. I think a scammer will not care for people that have already be scammed.
Conclusion : he will not care about people who complain on his forum. So i am here.

Maybe i am wrong but if so, viperbot is absolutly free to let me know that, he's free to ask me to come on the viper forums or carry on this discussion by PM or anything else. But instead of this, he's just ignoring me. So i am angry now.

[xShadowbladex]

I'm adding in google wallet, just need to update a few things.

That'll be awesome, I had my girlfriend help me since she is able to and have been using it since. Beautifully made, even though I don't go afk while it is working; I do other things and couldn't be happier. I fear maintenance though and whether they'll ever update their ability to see these programs. Regardless though, thank you so much for being a real person, and not some advertising robot that posts randomly about nonsense.

By the way! For those who want some user review input; me and my girlfriend play FFXIV, we play within such a close vicinity that we can occasionally view eachother's screens. This being so, I had the bot running while watching myself from her screen, and it was LEGIT. There was no doubt that the way the bot makes you move makes you look like you are actually there. With other bots you can tell, but this one does it so nice. If you aren't experiencing this make sure you don't base it on how you are seeing it, and
DO WATCH THE TUTORIAL VIDEO
--- DO TRY AND TRY AGAIN BECAUSE GETTING IT SETUP PERFECT IS DIFFICULT
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-------------ULTIMATE REWARDING! *emphasis ooooahhhh*

[tozededao]

FFXIV ARR MMOViper Review

This is my review on the FFXIV A Realm Reborn MMOViper Bot. Since some people were asking about a review on this bot, one of them being myself, before buying it I decided to give my opinion and review on this bot.

I've never coded any bot even though I am a software developer(or soon to be). I've used so many bots on MMOs that I've lost its count. So I think I'm aware what a good bot needs and how important some stuff is.

The most important properties of a bot are Efficiency, Security and User Friendly. Obviously there are some secondary ones such as Open API for community driven development which is also high valuable.




As far as Efficiency goes you want your bot to be as fast as possible. One second faster on a task that takes 10 seconds means that you're gonna save 2 hours and a half over a 24 hour period.
When you're mining you want to mount up between nodes, unless the travel time is short enough or you will end up wasting more time mounting and dismounting. When you're killing a monster you want it to press keys as fast as humanly possible. On some games you want to multidot because if you were grinding monsters that would be the fastest way to grind.
Basically you want the bot to make the best decisions depending on what you are doing in order to have the best performance, yet depending on what you're doing you never want to sacrifice security, you don't it to show that it is doing stuff so perfectly that a human can't do, if it is obvious for other players.

• As far as mining works, it just walks to nodes regardless there are monsters near it(and a player would avoid it, because you can't kill them when youre mining, by wether not entering on aggro radius or using Stealth ability).
• There seems to be no complex logic when choosing what mining node to pick when you have multiple up, it just goes for whatever it is closer, and I had this problem multiple times,it was bouncing between 2 destinations really fast making it look really botish.
• The game uses mesh system to move around your path, you generate the meshes and you're able to see it ingame which is pretty nice, but when you're at a certain distance to a node it will try to override the mesh and just go for it on a straight line which causes stuck issues.
• On this game, when you're gathering it requires you to use certain spells based on what you're gathering, your gathering stats, etc. Yet this has no support for these either.
• Combat system looks slow aswell, it has too much stop and go while a normal player reacts way faster.

With all this said I left the bot running on a high lever area with agro monsters without getting stucked for 1 straight hour using the workarounds that need to be done in order to not get stuck and it managed to gather the same amount of resources I did on 16 minutes playing by myself.





Security means you want it wether to not be detected by the measures the game implemented, neither easily seen by the other players.

It is too early to talk if this bot is detected by SE or not, but as far as bottish behavior I can easily say that anyone who has botted on other games, or knows what a bot looks like and watches you closely for 2 or 3 minutes will easily say you're a bot.





User Friendly means how easy it is to setup the bot, understand what all options are, what they do, the amount of costumization you have to suit your needs.

User Friendly is something that this bot isn't. I would easily set up an autohotkey script to do a rotation on a boss fight, than getting the bot to do it for me.

It is hard to find where certain stuff is, specially for people who never used a bot, most of the default options are not optimized at all and need to be changed, tons of missing options such as not being able to use potions, heals, behavior when you have no mana, because the bot stops when you're below half mana(or half GP), no matter if you want it to stop or not.

There's no option for what to do when your inventory is full, when you need to repair, avoid monsters, set up mount. All of these are mandatory on a bot, no matter what MMO you're playing.

Final Review

• It peforms worse than a bad player.
• You can't leave it unnattended because you will die/get stuck/your gear will break/your inventory will be full.
• You will look bottish because of non-smooth movement even with complex meshes.
• You will get stuck because there is no obstacle creation, and the mesh system threshold will say it is a walkable place even though you've never walked through it and there is an obstacle. It will ignore the mesh system when you're at a certain distance from a monster/node, and if theres an obstacle in between you'll get stuck.
  

After 1 week of usage, and "learning" how to properly run the bot, since it takes a tweak here and there, the bugs that I mentioned before still happen. Next release is supposed to include fishing when theres at least 3 free bots who already include this and do it efficiently. Judging by what I've seen from this bot on the other aspects, it will probably be slower and less effective than the free bots out there.

For a website that sells 12 bots, I would expect these mistakes not to happen, but after all it is just one bot ported into different games. There seem to be no real fixing just patching/mending/workarounds on stuff that needs to be fixed.

This is most likely the worse bot I've ever used for any game. Even with all the free bots/pixel bots I've tried.

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[sol82]

I give MMOViper a 3/5. Once set up properly, it farms like a maniac. The problem is setting it up properly. The tutorials are quite vague, and the overlay rarely works the way it is supposed to when creating a patrol. After a couple hours of setting up hotspots, tweaking gathering radii, and trying to teach the damn thing not to walk up that cliff, it works well enough. However, in those hours, you could have accomplished what you wanted the bot to do in the first place.

[tozededao]

I give MMOViper a 3/5. Once set up properly, it farms like a maniac. The problem is setting it up properly. The tutorials are quite vague, and the overlay rarely works the way it is supposed to when creating a patrol. After a couple hours of setting up hotspots, tweaking gathering radii, and trying to teach the damn thing not to walk up that cliff, it works well enough. However, in those hours, you could have accomplished what you wanted the bot to do in the first place.

How does it farm like a maniac? If it farms 1/3 of the amount of ores I can farm playing it manually that is not farming as a maniac.

It doesn't use Mount, it doesnt use spells that increase your gathering ratio, it doesn't use food that increase your gathering ratio and the logic between choosing the best node to go sucks and it doesn't avoid monsters.

With all this said how can you say " it farms like a maniac "?

It can't even properly follow the navmesh. If you have A-B-C-D-E, all 10 yards from eachother, when it is 3 yards away from B, it switches target and wants to go C before reaching B.

When you're creating something you need a structure.
If I want to create a combat bot, my goal is to make it as fast and effective as possible.
If I'm making a gathering bot, I want to make it fast and effective aswell.

I never coded a bot. If I ever did and I wasn't able to make my bot use mount or use spells before mining, I would be ashamed and never release it, on the other hand some people make money with something that I would be ashamed. The price of 30 dollars per year compared to Honorbuddy which is about the same price and lifetime, is just a totally joke. Buddyteam had more work investment on a bot for 1 game, and it is working amazingly well (playing better than player), than MMOViper had with 12 bots, and none of them excels at that specific game.

Automated Robots were created to surpass humans on tasks that humans used to do. Thats why you have robots manufacturing cars. Because they can do it better and faster than a human can.

Thats the goal when you're creating a bot. It has to be at least as good as a player if not better.

[sol82]

If the point of the bot is to be better than the player, why plat the ****ing game? The point of the bot is to do your shit while you're not. Waking up after 6 hours and seeing two bags full of Mithril Ore is a win in my book.

I know there's no gear-switching yet, but I run an AHK script to change between 3-4 gear sets, which are all the same.

And if you're mining at point A and it looks at point D, then your bot is set up poorly. I'm not going to hold your hands, because it is self-explanatory...

[tozededao]

If the point of the bot is to be better than the player, why plat the ****ing game? The point of the bot is to do your shit while you're not. Waking up after 6 hours and seeing two bags full of Mithril Ore is a win in my book.

I know there's no gear-switching yet, but I run an AHK script to change between 3-4 gear sets, which are all the same.

And if you're mining at point A and it looks at point D, then your bot is set up poorly. I'm not going to hold your hands, because it is self-explanatory...

Best explanation ever. My bot is set up properly, The bot doesn't follow 100% navmesh, even on the tutorial video you see that, before it reaches a link it is already heading to the next one.

[sol82]

There's an option to set the radius where the bot looks for targets in your list at each hotspot. If you have your nav points right up on your hotspot, then reduce this to 10, or even 5. The best explanation i can think of is that the bot looks for nodes or targets that are closes to the starting point of the bot. If you start your patrol at point A, but you make your way to point E, yet a mineral deposit shows up at B, then it will make its way back to B, skipping C and D if you have your radius set that high.

[viperbot]

@sol82 Yup..agreed.

@toz, Some of the patrols that the users have setup are far from efficient. Increasing the targeting range to look for a long way from the hotspot to allow it to pick up any node that is ready to harvest is a definite tweak in the right direction. But the fastest profiles are not going to be shared due to a lot of people all using the same ones and risk getting a ban stick. So it is better to learn how the bot works and you will soon figgure out the best way to make some really good paths.

The bot presses the harvest keys as fast as the player does with some very minor variations.

Everybody wants to be spoon fed it seems. Oh well, I try.

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[tozededao]

There's an option to set the radius where the bot looks for targets in your list at each hotspot. If you have your nav points right up on your hotspot, then reduce this to 10, or even 5. The best explanation i can think of is that the bot looks for nodes or targets that are closes to the starting point of the bot. If you start your patrol at point A, but you make your way to point E, yet a mineral deposit shows up at B, then it will make its way back to B, skipping C and D if you have your radius set that high.

That still doesn't fix the Go to Navmesh link C when it didnt even reach Navmesh link B. Some places have really narrow space to go through and I set the navline so it avoids the obstacles and goes through, yet, it doesn't follow the navmesh. I'm not the only person complanining about it as you can see on the private foruns.

[Secrecy]

Paid tault 4 days ago, admin logged for 5mins asked my mmoviper username and been gone since would really like to try the bot when I paid for it -.-

[viperbot]

@toz, the bot has about a 2-3 foot accuracy on the mesh. I'll be adding in some customization so you can reduce this smaller, but if you get it too small, the bot may have trouble hitting a waypint and might start going crazy trying to reach it. So my first suggestion, is to make a different path, I have run 20 different patrols, and none of them have had a spot that they had to go between exactly 2 rocks or whatever. So try thinking outside of the box, take a step back and think of a different way to reach whatever it is you are trying to reach. Try posting the patrol you have or the area on the viper forums and get some help. There are a few people now uploading patrols.

@Secrecy, Keep sending pm's.

[Secrecy]

Just got it