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    Section 1: Talents

    Section 2: Macros

    Section 3: Tips on gear/ gems/ enchants

    Section 4: Tips


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    Section 1: Talents; Spec and Must have talents!

    Before even considering to enter a 5v5 arena team you will need a great spec to accomodate your team mates. The spec that I have is 100% utility and any talent that adds to dps will simply be icing on the cake

    This is the spec that I personally use and I highly recommend that you use it also:
    WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Hunter -> Talent Calculator

    Highlights of the spec I have linked above:

    0/41/20

    4/5 Improved arcane shot: 4/5 is a must in general arena but even more important in 5v5.

    2/2 Combat experience (will explain why I chose this later)

    3/3 Entrapment: 3/3 Entrapment is a must in 5v5 as both a defensive and offensive proc ability that is simply icing on the cake when using frost trap.

    2/2 Clever traps: 2/2 Clever traps combined with frost trap and entrapment you can simply have 2 frost traps on the ground at all times which means that other teams will simply crumble and fail if your teammate who is being focues simply kites them into it. 2/2 Clever traps benefits every trap in PvP but Freezing trap, it extends the duration of frost trap by 7 seconds on top of its current 30 or seconds that it lasts now.

    5/5 Improved stings: This is self explanatory


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    Section 2: Macros; Must have macros

    How to focus a target:
    Code:
    /focus
    How to clear focus target (blizzards UI is bugged, sometimes once a focus target dies you it wont clear the dead focused person, hence)
    Code:
    /clearfocus
    Totem killing pet macro:
    Credit to Lumaria* < Glitterati > * Silver Hand

    Code:
        Q u o t e:
        /petattack Windwall Totem
        /petattack Searing Totem
        /petattack Tremor Totem
        /petattack Mana Spring Totem
        /petattack Earthbind Totem
        /petattack Windfury Totem
        /petattack Grounding Totem
        /petattack Poison Cleansing Totem
    Feign death, petpassive and drink:
    Code:
    /petpassive
    /stopcasting
    /castsequence reset=10 feign death, Star's Tears
    Or if you are a Night elf; Feign death, Shadow meld, petpassive and drink macro:
    Code:
    /petpassive
    /stopcasting
    /castsequence reset=10 feign death, Star's Tears, shadow meld
    Focus macroed viper sting, note; This macro will work against your target if you have nothing focused:
    Code:
    /cast [target=focus,exists][] viper sting
    Or if you are a Blood Elf hunter, you can make it a cast sequence and have mana tap in there also:
    Code:
    /castsequence [target=focus,exists][] reset=15 viper sting, mana tap
    Deterrence and aspect of the monkey; All in one
    Code:
    /castsequence reset=3 aspect of the monkey, deterrence
    OR

    Code:
    /castsequence reset=3 deterrence, aspect of the monkey
    Pet attacking focus target:
    Code:
    /petattack [target=focus,exists][]
    OR a 3rd option to aspect of the monkey + deterrence macro, thnx to Maulgrom* < Just Wipe It > * Blackrock

    Code:
        Q u o t e:
        /cast Deterrance
        /stopcasting
        /cast Aspect of the Monkey
    Silence shot your focused target:This macro will work against your target if you have nothing focused:
    Code:
    /cast [target=focus,exists][] silencing shot
    Credit to Allurai* < Pure > * Antonidas

    Silencing shot with modifier

    Q u o t e:

    Code:
        #show Silencing Shot
        /cast [modifier:shift] Silencing Shot; [target=focus, exists, nodead] Silencing Shot; Silencing Shot;
    Vipersting with modifier

    Q u o t e:

    Code:
        #show Viper Sting
        /cast [modifier:shift] Viper Sting; [target=focus, exists, nodead] Viper Sting; Viper Sting;
    How do they work?

    Q u o t e:

    If you hold down shift it will sil/vip your current target and ignore focus, otherwise it will sil/vip your focus'd target, if no focus exists, it will hit your current target



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    Section 3: Tips on gear/ gems/ enchants

    Part 1
    Gear: This is pretty much self-explanatory but I will keep it short and simple, there is only 1 item that I am currently equiping that has no resilience on it - and so you shouldnt have more then 1 slot with an item tha thas no resilience on it.

    I recommend 2X 1 handed weapons with 2X 30 intellect on them (will explain at the end of this guide on why)

    If you are fresh level 70 then farm honor and get your season 1 while attempting to farm arena points and get whatever season 3 items that you slowly get access to.

    Donot back track, donot spend points on S2 items

    Part 2
    Gems: I dont recommend any gem that doesn't have agility OR crit on it. you should use +agility gems in red slots and +crit gems in yellow slots (PvP gear has no other colour slots so you will only be exposed to red and yellow).

    Donot get any +Stam or resilience gems, they are a waste - by the time you get FULL S3 you will have enough stamina and hp that will enable you to stack the gems that I have recommended so far.

    My motto as a hunter and gemming hunter PvP gear is that, what is the point of stacking resilience and stamina if you arent going to kill anything?

    Part 3:Enchants
    Helmet slot: Get 36 + AP/ 16 + Hit rating enchant
    Shoulders: Get 15+ Crit/ 20 + AP enchant
    Cloak: Get 12+ Agility enchant
    Chest: 6+ All stats enchant (currently I have +15 resilience but I will be changing my own to 6+ stats)
    Wrist: 12+ Intellect
    Melee weapons: If you decide to follow my advice on getting 2X1 Handed weapons then get 30 Intellect on each, however if you already have spent 1000 arena points on the s3 hunter axe then get 35+agility on it.
    Ranged weapon: If you have the cash get 28+ Crit, however if you donot 12+dmg will do until you have the cash to get 28+crit.
    Gloves:15+ agility enchant
    Legs: Get 50+AP/12+crit enchant.
    Feet: You have a choice between 6+Agility/minor speed OR 9+stam/minor speed (if you dont have a meta gem that gives to movement speed.) However if you do have the metagem that gives to movement speed then get +12 agility to boots. But remember make sure to get +minor speed no matter what!

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    Section 4: [i]Tipsi]; Hunters role in arena!

    Hunters play an amazingly unique role in arena, a role that is very hard to recognize as a non-hunter and really hard to master as a hunter. So what is YOUR role in arena as a hunter? To help you better understand I will start off with a point form (from most important to least important):

    Using frost trap defensively:
    Use it in conjunction with key positioning such as an LoS spot, for example: the tomb in the middle of Lordaeron arena. At the start of any 5v5 match run to the middle of the map ASAP and drop your frost trap right on top of the tomb, if you get focused kite your opponents into it. Frost trap with 2/2 Clever traps and entrapment will allow you to snare/root your targets endlessley, usually within MAXIMUM 3 layers of frost trap depending on when the first trap is triggered.

    Keeping people in combat + Mana drain:
    Keeping people in combat with your pet while draining mana from a key class, usually shaman or priest.

    Totems: I also make it my job to destroy as many as totems as I possibly can with the macro I linked above, specially WF totem when the match starts and mana tide once the shaman on the opposing team goes oom.

    DPS:
    I put DPS as the last important task as a hunter due to the fact that we will be dpsing all the time unless LoSed but if you mana drain, frost trap people and keeping mana drained targets in combat does more dmg then our highly mitigated dps.

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    Bowtie's Avatar Member
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    Hard act to follow, but as far as raid dps goes...

    Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

    Best there is.

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    Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

    Variants can be made. Good for survivability and damage while pvping. Popular arena specs are similar to this.

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    pushcart's Avatar Member
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    I am a BM spec and I am uusally in the top 5 in AV and top 3 in the smaller battlegrounds but I too have a feeling that once I totally move to Dungeons, PVP and raids I will end up respecing.
    I have a pretty good build at:
    WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Hunter -> Talent Calculator

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    On my hunter, I use a 41/20 spec which is for PVE raiding.

    Probably the best being Beast Mastery for raiding because it is such a "mana-efficient" spec for raiding, and it probably pumps out of the most DPS over a period of time, due to the high amount of damage your pet, and your own shots.

    One thing you have to be careful about though as this spec is your shot rotation (Steady Shot > Auto Shot [Kill Command when available]. You have to make sure you time this perfectly, along with using bestial wrath and trinkets to gain that extra DPS. Once you have mastered the shot rotation without losing any vital damage, you'll really enjoy the spec, and you'll be high up those damage meters.

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    Originally Posted by Nemorosa View Post
    A surv specc I think would be good: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
    The only problem I see with this is the fact that many people are to lazy to learn to play a Survival spec hunter.
    It is actually a challenge to do it, and it will take time to learn and get used to.
    Other than that, This is an excellent spec to play MM/surv

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    Going to have to try surv someday, when i reach the surv requirement though.

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    Originally Posted by pushcart View Post
    I am a BM spec and I am uusally in the top 5 in AV and top 3 in the smaller battlegrounds but I too have a feeling that once I totally move to Dungeons, PVP and raids I will end up respecing.
    I have a pretty good build at:
    WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Hunter -> Talent Calculator
    this is probably one of the best specs i have seen for hunter PVP, so if you decide to do that.. i'd just copy this guy 100%.

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    I Have a question with WoW wats the very best Hunter Pet i have an alt with a wolf and keep getting killed ALOT!!!!! so plz someone help me

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    I usually go in deep with BM and then put a couple of points in MM to get aimed shot. That build works both for PvE and PvP

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    Nice guide, the most useful was th macros, as i suck at making macros...

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    citisin's Avatar Member
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    here's a build i used for a bit in bg's

    Beast Mastery (0 points)

    None

    Marksmanship (41 points)

    1/5 Improved Concussive Shot
    5/5 Lethal Shots
    5/5 Efficiency
    2/5 Improved Arcane Shot
    1/1 Aimed Shot
    2/2 Rapid Killing
    5/5 Mortal Shots
    1/1 Scatter Shot
    3/3 Barrage
    2/2 Combat Experience
    3/5 Ranged Weapon Specialization
    2/3 Careful Aim
    1/1 Trueshot Aura
    2/3 Improved Barrage
    5/5 Master Marksman
    1/1 Silencing Shot

    Survival (20 points)

    3/3 Humanoid Slaying
    2/3 Hawk Eye
    2/5 Deflection
    3/3 Improved Wing Clip
    2/2 Clever Traps
    5/5 Survivalist
    1/1 Deterrence
    2/2 Trap Mastery

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    If you're going to do arena you better spec Marksmanship, unless you're playing on a nuke team. Silencing and Scatter shot will be far better in the long run than Intimidation and BW.

    Go for something like this: 7/41/13

    Or the common 2vs2 spec: 11/41/9

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    I think the best spect for 2v2 arena with a healer is drain/outlast spect
    World of Warcraft Europe -> Talents

    but BM can be nice aswell I got 2k rating in 3v3 with it in like 3 hours playing with the setup Priest, Rogue, Hunter
    Last edited by BioShoQ; 06-15-2008 at 09:23 PM.

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    If your playing in a drain team (such as Priest/Hunter/Druid) MM spec is a must! Most healers can quite easily get rid off your Viper Stings so shooting a Silencing Shot immediately after Viper Sting is often necessary. Marks is still the best choice for most healer/you 2v2 setups, however Beast Mastery is much better for double dps teams (or You/Resto Shaman) as it allows you to deal huge amounts of damage in a short time.

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