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    Ive got a few.
    What is the story behind the ashbringer and SM and the scarlet.
    Why did the taurens and the night elves not join the same force.
    Why are the bloodelves at war with the nightelves

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    Originally Posted by luffeh View Post
    Ive got a few.
    What is the story behind the ashbringer and SM and the scarlet.
    During the assault on Blackrock Spire in the Second War, Highlord (then Commander) Mograine of the Silver Hand claimed a mysterious dark crystal from a dead orc lieutenant. The crystal was the "living embodiment of shadow," and originated from Draenor.

    When the first whispers of the Scourge reached Lordaeron, Commander Mograine revealed the crystal to his most trusted associates of the Silver Hand, and suggested that they search for the crystal's polar opposite - a manifestation of The Light itself - to be used against the impending undead holocaust. Mograine's peers, appalled at the sight of this dark crystal, attempted to destroy it with a holy spell. Unexpectedly, the crystal absorbed the spell and became its own antithesis - the very crystal of pure light that Mograine suggested. It was decided that from this crystal a weapon would be forged that would smite the undead with such power that only a cloud of ash would remain in its wake-- The Ashbringer.

    After the Silver Hand was dissolved following Arthas' betrayal, the remaining leaders formed the Scarlet Crusade. Mograine was appointed to the head position of Highlord, and Ashbringer became the most lethal weapon in the Crusade's arsenal - so much so that it quickly garnered the attention of Kel'Thuzad. Balnazzar, in the newly possessed body of Grand Crusader Saidan Dathrohan, sought to use the Crusade as a machine against the Scourge and rectify the Burning Legion's past failure to defeat the Lich King. Mograine, however, potentially jeopardized his plans. Balnazzar made a pact with Kel'Thuzad to eliminate the Highlord: the bane of the Scourge would be destroyed, and Balnazzar's reign would continue unchecked. He corrupted Mograine's son, Renault, and made plans to set a trap for the Highlord. Renault led his father and High Inquisitor Fairbanks to Stratholme, where the legions of the Scourge awaited them. Renault fled and hid while Mograine and Fairbanks fended for themselves. Fairbanks eventually became trapped alive under a pile of corpses. Mograine alone continued to smite thousands of the undead with ease, but was eventually wearied and dropped his blade in fatigue. Renault came out of hiding to exploit his father's vulnerable state. He took up Ashbringer and slew his father, which simultaneously corrupted the blade by using it for such a treacherous act. Unable to wield the corrupted sword, he left it with his father's body, and reported to the Crusade that it had been lost.

    Renault's betrayal was witnessed only by the unseen Fairbanks, who could only listen in horror as Renault murdered his father. Fairbanks remained there until he regained enough strength to leave the besieged city. He fled to the Scarlet Monastery where he told of Renault's actions to anyone who would listen. Those who believed broke away from the Crusade and formed the Argent Dawn. However, many refused to believe him and killed him for speaking such blasphemy and exposure to the Plague. His body was discarded in a secret chamber in the Scarlet Cathedral.

    Meanwhile, Kel'Thuzad resurrected Mograine as one of his death knights and reclaimed his corrupted blade. Since then Mograine has resided in Naxxramas, driven mad by his corruption. Taelan Fordring has succeeded him as Highlord. Renault has risen in rank to Commander of the Scarlet Monastery, and Balnazzar gained authority over the Scarlet Crusade and began to corrupt it further into the zealous faction it is today. Followers of the Crusade believe that the "chosen one" who finds Ashbringer will be the harbinger of the Crusade's triumph.

    Why did the taurens and the night elves not join the same force.
    Tauren and night elves have coexisted on Kalimdor for centuries.


    Why are the bloodelves at war with the nightelves
    Blood elves feel betrayed by the Alliance and are enemies of both humanity and the night elves. The blood elves try to draw the remaining high elves into their fold — a concept the goodly high elves view with horror and revulsion. Indeed, the existence of the blood elves demonstrates the depth of the corruption possible for this once mighty race, and the high elves see them as a dire warning. Many high elves seek to make amends for evils wrought by their demented kin.

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    Originally Posted by venomfangx View Post
    so how the hell did tauren come to wow did a whole bunch of cows eat uranium and boom they suddenly spawn at mulgore?
    The tauren race is as old as, if not older than, the night elves.

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    Alkhara, all that is from wiki :>

    But I actually knew of what you said, and I, myself, is a great fan of Warcraft lore.

    But I couldnt find anything on this, but:

    What class has the most influence on warcraft lore?
    -My bet would be druids, as Stormrage is a druid, archdruid, himself. And if it wasnt for Malorne, the Legion would probably rule over azeroth.
    What class has the lowest influence on warcraft lore?
    -I'd say Warrior or rogue, I just dont see any specific group/person who has been a warrior or rogue and had an influence on the lore. (Agamaggan wasnt really a warrior or a rogue..)

    Originally Posted by Alkhara Majere View Post
    The tauren race is as old as, if not older than, the night elves.
    And what is somewhat interresting is that Night Elves worship Elune (Moon) and the taurens worship The Great Earthmother (The Sun), and in the lore it says that Mu'sha has for centuries tryed to catch Mu'sha, wich is just like in real life, moon chasing sun or vicer versa.
    Another note I took of - The Night Elves were once immortal creatures untill Nordrassil was destroyed (Or was it the sunwell?)!
    Last edited by Lyricalwarfare; 02-16-2008 at 02:06 PM.

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    The Night Elves were once immortal creatures untill Nordrassil was destroyed (Or was it the sunwell?)!
    It was Nordrassil. They were not created immortal, but the tree was grown from an acorn of the recently lost Mother Tree, G'Hanir, by the great dragon Alexstrasza in the waters of the newly reborn Well of Eternity on the sacred Mount Hyjal.

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    Originally Posted by Lyricalwarfare View Post
    And what is somewhat interresting is that Night Elves worship Elune (Moon) and the taurens worship The Great Earthmother (The Sun), and in the lore it says that Mu'sha has for centuries tryed to catch Mu'sha, wich is just like in real life, moon chasing sun or vicer versa.
    Another note I took of - The Night Elves were once immortal creatures untill Nordrassil was destroyed (Or was it the sunwell?)!

    The earthmother:
    Tauren mythology describes her as the creator of the land, and the tauren. The sun (An'she) and moon (Mu'sha) are her eyes.
    She is the emodiment of nature blaha blaha.
    Interesting fact here is that Mu'sha is thought by some to be the same as Elune.

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    In Tauren mythology, she is known as Mu'sha, and is the left eye of the Earthmother."

    Malorne on the other hand. Is a white stag, hunted by tauren in their stories etc.

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    Malorne was so much more than just a white stag hunted by tauren.

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    Are you the only one answering questions? Or can others help? (:


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    Originally Posted by Darkei View Post
    Are you the only one answering questions? Or can others help? (:
    Well whats ur question?

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    Originally Posted by Lyricalwarfare View Post
    Well whats ur question?
    I have none.

    I'm a lore whore too ^_^


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    Alkhara Majere's Avatar Member
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    This is my thread, so I will actually be deleting other peoples answers.

    Its pretty god damn rude.

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    Originally Posted by Alkhara Majere View Post
    This is my thread
    your precioussssssssssssssssssss

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    Originally Posted by Alkhara Majere View Post
    This is my thread, so I will actually be deleting other peoples answers.

    Its pretty god damn rude.
    I thought so, thats why I checked with you first. It's just some people like the extra help and don't mind sharing (:

    Good Luck, and <3 the answers you've given so far anyway
    Last edited by Saridormi; 02-18-2008 at 12:13 PM. Reason: More Info Added


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    If im correct
    Each race has a 'God' type character.
    For example the nightelves have Elune.
    Who do the other races have?

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    Originally Posted by luffeh View Post
    If im correct
    Each race has a 'God' type character.
    For example the nightelves have Elune.
    Who do the other races have?
    There are no hard and fast rules to define what it means to be a god in Warcraft, save that all gods are immortal.

    The Tauren and the Earthen (dwarves) were also known to honor, if not outright worship Elune. The Earthen were aware that it was she who gave birth to Cenarius, and were surprised to hear that Ysera was regarded as his mother. It's unknown if this means that the Earthen worshipped her, or were merely better-informed about the origins of Kalimdor's demigods.

    The Tauren myth, the White Stag and the Moon, relates how Apa'ro (Malorne) fled the Shu'halo (Tauren) by escaping into the sky, but was entangled by the stars. Mu'sha saw him and fell in love with him, and agreed to free him if he loved her. Mu'sha's actions appear slightly out of character with Elune as understood by the Night elves and the Earthen, but it might be helpful to interpret it as a "just-so" story that the Tauren used to explain the origin of Cenarius.

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