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    Originally Posted by Nikogrom View Post
    Honestly, the only reason I'm using ArcEmu and Aspire over Mangos is because of all the custom content I've created and am currently working on. I find it easier to do a truly custom server using Ascent based emu's Esecially the ones with the different LUA types enabled.

    With that said, if/when I want to host a Blizzlike server (which I probably will) I'll be using Mangos for it. In my experience it's proved to be the most stable current emu for Blizzlike realms. If I could do all the things with mangos that I've been doing with Aspire/ArcEmu, I'd use mangos for my custom realms as well. Unfortunatly, it just isn't possible atm without having to do a lot more work than I really want to do with it. :/
    That's a great answer. Thanks a lot for the information.

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    Originally Posted by Kalash47 View Post

    And ArcEmu servers would be SO much more stable if they had vmaps enabled. I find it funny that you even bring up this comment when MaNGOS was the first open-source emulator to support the vmaps collision system.

    Moving on....
    My bad there, thought it was an ArcEmu pic.

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    Originally Posted by Kalash47 View Post
    That's a great answer. Thanks a lot for the information.
    Wow.. That makes me want to slap you, you nitpicking sun of a gun!

    You called one of my posts stupid for a much shorter restatement of the quote your quoted! How nuts can you be?
    I just added some stability remarks!
    Nitpickers... what are you.. a highschool english teacher?

    lawl



    Originally Posted by Kalash47 View Post
    I find it funny how you ask for such an extreme test only to get you to decide to move on to a better emulator.

    You didn't do this when Arc was first released, I bet.

    So run along, and use your crappy Arc server, I will enjoy running, using, and developing MaNGOS.

    I didn't want this thread to be an argument, I simply wished to purge your crazed assumption of the supposed "instability" of MaNGOS.


    And ArcEmu servers would be SO much more stable if they had vmaps enabled. I find it funny that you even bring up this comment when MaNGOS was the first open-source emulator to support the vmaps collision system.

    Moving on....
    It's not an argument unless in your mind it has become one friend. I think there should be a test done, and that's the only way to figure out which emu is better. Because in the long run, what makes the emu perfect from the other, is the stability and the handling. And sucks for you that you automatically assume what emus I use. I switch, I experiment. I am not a biased person.
    And it's not an assumption that Mangos servers that go public are unstable. I find every half hour to two hours of restarts very unstable. I'm sorry if you don't.


    Oh and this first this... first that nonsense. First never wins the race. It's the advanced that make it to the real finish line. Remember that

    As for "You didn't do this when Arc was first released, I bet," of course not ... because this thread didn't exist yet.
    Last edited by TheNlghtmare; 10-28-2008 at 11:37 AM.
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    mangos now has longer uptimes than arcemu with same playerbase.
    mangos created vmaps which burlex then "stole", said nothing about mangos, just "vmaps implented" and after that -- it never got discussed in ascent forums. Some of you might remember the time when it was mangos steals everything etc. Which it didin't, in this case, it was the other way around. I highly doupt no-one at arcemu devs know anything about vmaps either.

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    Originally Posted by Henkke View Post
    mangos now has longer uptimes than arcemu with same playerbase.
    mangos created vmaps which burlex then "stole", said nothing about mangos, just "vmaps implented" and after that -- it never got discussed in ascent forums. Some of you might remember the time when it was mangos steals everything etc. Which it didin't, in this case, it was the other way around. I highly doupt no-one at arcemu devs know anything about vmaps either.
    So... they were implemented, not stolen. Haha.

    try telling a wiifanboy that miis (rewording for avatars) were stolen and not implemented. same concept.

    Ideas are borrowed throughout time.

    Some people have the ability to make these ideas better than the previous.

    The idea is then implemented when it is ready.
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    Expect, it was pure copypaste. How can it be better if was 100% the same code ? and it's old collision code now, its been updated.

    So arcemu/rest ascents are using old, not up to date, copypaste vmaps.

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    Now where the English teacher when we need him?
    Do you have proof that it was pure copy paste?
    And if it were the case... it still goes back to..
    implementation.

    This isn't a who stole what debate anyway.
    LOL!

    All I know is earlier I said Mangos good for "blizzlike" servers
    and Ascent (etc) is good for "fun/custom" servers. Someone rephrased it later on minus the stability and bam... the guy's a genius.


    fine fine
    I guess we don't want to know the PROS AND CONS OF EACH EMU
    I'll satisfy the uneducated minds on this thread (since this was originally a thread on what each emu has to offer) your needs to hear the following...
    "Mangos is Teh BeSt."
    743N1647M@R3 is omgepic dudes and dudettes!

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    Originally Posted by TheNlghtmare View Post
    All I know is earlier I said Mangos good for "blizzlike" servers
    and Ascent (etc) is good for "fun/custom" servers. Someone rephrased it later on minus the stability and bam... the guy's a genius.
    http://www.mmowned.com/forums/emulat...ml#post1161542

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    "High school teacher" - good one. I don't get it.
    Originally Posted by TheNlghtmare View Post
    I just added some stability remarks!
    And you were wrong

    And it's not an assumption that Mangos servers that go public are unstable. I find every half hour to two hours of restarts very unstable. I'm sorry if you don't.
    I'm sorry but this is coming from someone who doesn't know anything about MaNGOS from revisions 6500+. Maybe you should try it sometime and stop confusing people with your senseless crap.

    It's the advanced that make it to the real finish line. Remember that .
    Funny, why aren't you using MaNGOS then?

    I merely meant that you can't possibly criticize MaNGOS stability compared to Arc because of VMAPS because not only is VMAPS natively BUILT for MaNGOS, it is also MUCH more updated and WAY more stable under MaNGOS than it is in Arc.

    Originally Posted by TheNlghtmare View Post
    So... they were implemented, not stolen. Haha.

    try telling a wiifanboy that miis (rewording for avatars) were stolen and not implemented. same concept.

    Ideas are borrowed throughout time.

    Some people have the ability to make these ideas better than the previous.

    The idea is then implemented when it is ready.
    It's a shame that you are trying to say as if Arc has a better VMAP system than MaNGOS, because it doesn't. In fact I don't think Arc has ever done serious coding with the vmaps system (unless they "borrowed the idea and "made it better" from Ascent".

    Originally Posted by TheNlghtmare View Post
    Now where the English teacher when we need him?
    Do you have proof that it was pure copy paste?
    And if it were the case... it still goes back to..
    implementation.

    This isn't a who stole what debate anyway.
    LOL!

    All I know is earlier I said Mangos good for "blizzlike" servers
    and Ascent (etc) is good for "fun/custom" servers. Someone rephrased it later on minus the stability and bam... the guy's a genius.
    The guys not a genius, but he wasn't making an ass of himself.

    fine fine
    I guess we don't want to know the PROS AND CONS OF EACH EMU
    I did. I don't know what you are talking about whilst distorting the nature of this topic.
    I'll satisfy the uneducated minds on this thread (since this was originally a thread on what each emu has to offer) your needs to hear the following...
    "Mangos is Teh BeSt."
    You are the uneducated mind in this topic. It wouldn't make sense to have someone who doesn't know what they are talking about to educate others.

    Please stop posting in the topic.

    We're not hear to prove which one is right or wrong, but we are posting facts. Facts which you have blindly dismissed, and keep boasting and making senseless irrelevant comments. Maybe you need to take summer school this year
    Last edited by Kalash47; 10-28-2008 at 09:15 PM.

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    In my general opinion most of you are failures lieing on what they can and can't code saying you know languages and etc. The emulation communities are crap and will stay that way. When you get a glimpse of the true background and the meaning of it all you all have ruined what the projects were originally made for. So all of you need to shut your traps and read and learn more about what your talking about. If anyone comments on this to bad idc.

    I don't want any comments because they all *fail*. Requesting close on this post because this is a failure thread and most of these people don't really know anything about emulators or what they were made for they go by assumptions. Not by their own knowledge.



    Respects To:

    ArcEmu
    Ascent
    AspireDev
    Spurious
    Wcell
    Kobold
    Mangos and the rest of the emulators ever made to many to list really.
    Last edited by Grevs; 10-28-2008 at 09:35 PM.

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    Originally Posted by TheNlghtmare View Post
    Now where the English teacher when we need him?
    I find it funny that people who natively speak english, seem to back their asses on this usually. Quite funny really. Come speak russian for me for instance and i can say the same shit to you. But this is oot.

    When the vmap code found it's way to ascent's svn, it was mangos copyright marks everywhere, which were removed later.. or some may be still there.

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