MaNGOS Popularity

[Aznex]

a list of popular mainstream private servers that use mangos

you're not allowed to go public with mangos

[TheNlghtmare]

you're not allowed to go public with mangos

Blah.
THEN.
Here is the problem with Mangos.

Ascent, Aspire, and ArcEmu allow private servers to make it to the rest of the world as where Mangos does not prohibits the user to make the private server public. Correct? Theres no way around that one. Not everyone likes playing LAN or singleplay WoW... Actually, tons of people who are in the EMU sections of MMOwned run large servers for private server players. Face it.

I am not making the switch!

"MaNGOS License and Usage Terms
The source code of the MaNGOS project is licensed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL), version 2.

Documentation and contributed materials may be governed by different license terms. Where appropriate, license terms for documentation and contributed materials have been added for your reference.
The GPL allows you to …

Often license texts are long and rather hard to understand, so we provide a short summary for you, describing what you are allowed to do with the MaNGOs sources and what is disallowed.

The GNU General Public License allows you to ...

* get the MaNGOS source code for free,
* make the source code available for download,
* modify the source code and use modfied versions for private usage,
* modify the source code and publish binary releases, as long as you release the modified source code as well,
* modify the source code and publish patches.

The GNU General Public License does not allow you to ...

* modify the source code and only release binaries,
* re-license the source code under a different license,
* limit the usage of the source code.

MaNGOS End-User License Agreement


MaNGOS has been built with education as the main target, thus you may only use the source code and binary releases provided by the project for educational purposes. You are not allowed to use MaNGOS for any commercial purpose, and you are not allowed to use MaNGOS for hosting MaNGOS servers for public usage."

The loophole like anyother would be, if you were to make the server public, you, the user of Mangos, broke the EULA. That can result in several different things for the server owner only though. I'm sure it would only be along the lines of perhaps bans or ip ban from their forums/websites. I'm sure it would mean they are not held resposible nor accountable under any circumstance if Blizzard Entertainment decides to make the server owner take it up the hershey highway of hell.

[Dythzer]

TheLuda (projectleader) has stated many times that the reason why its not allowed to host public servers is just to save your asses from Blizzard. I'm not saying its OK to host a public server but there are often posts on mangosproject with "Is this computer good enough for 1000+ players" etc.. Everyone knows it's for a public server and to be honest, no one really cares (as long as you say "testers" instead of "players" etc and dont post screenshots and stuff) And there has also been users that tries to shutdown mangos public servers by posting on mangos forums and giving links to the server and saying they host for public, but the mangos team never do anything. It's not their responsible. Most of bug reports are from public server, the project wouldnt be this big without them. Still, I'm not saying its OK to host a public server, but you can ofc have "testers" on your server who helps you with bug reports etc.

[Henkke]

Theres plenty of servers with users going from 1000-2000 online at a time running mangos, and having 1-7 day uptimes. They just aren't so after the money like the ones using ascent deriatives are (look at xtremetop, almost all servers running arc and 100% of them have "buy gear for real money" thing going on. It's pure business.)

But for servers running mangos, visagali's one (only lithuanians allowed) , lots of german ones, alphawow.. the one which's name i dont remember.. it's admin uses these forums anyway +alot more..

[AzolexX]

MaNGOS is not offering support to public private servers that's it. I guess there will be support for them after milestone 1.0 of MaNGOS releases.

[Kalash47]

you're not allowed to go public with mangos

They don't really care. The devs are there for just that, developing.

What they don't condone is discussion on your private server in their forums/irc.

There are PLENTY of MaNGOS servers with over 1000+ people. There have always been, please, it's like as if you thought that when Ascent wasn't around people were too scared to use MaNGOS. You wouldn't care, you'd take it, compile it, and run it.

[AzolexX]

You are allowed to go public but they dont like/Support it. Do you get it?
For public server example :
Deathknell - more than 50k Accounts i guess(i think even more than 200k).

[stoneharry]

Personaly i've played mangos and arcemu. Both with well hosted 24/7 servers and big numbers. Mangos was less stable, and if it bugged, it took ages to fix. You cant have no where near as much customisation and the commands didn't make sense. The good side was that all the spells were working well, and the PvP was really good.

ArcEmu I love, it's more stable if you know what your doing and the things you can do with Lua is amazing, more and more...
Not as many spells work and it can be more laggy, but you can do practicly anything on ArcEmu as you cant on Mangos.

Thats my 2 cents
and I couldn't be bothered to read through 4 pages of arguments =p

ArcEmu <3

[AzolexX]

Use MaNGOS Milestones for good and stable version of MaNGOS. They are released often.

[stoneharry]

Use Mangos Milestones People if you whant good and no-bugged emulator!

How do you define 'good'? You cant use Lua which is a huge disadvantage as a lot of people said, and It's not as flexable.
Depends what you want the server for, if I wanted a blizzlike server I would pick mangos, funserver, ArcEmu.

[AzolexX]

Remember that Mangos Funservers are created before any Antrix/Ascent. WoWScape used MaNGOS before Antrix. If you have good developers it is not bad and yeah Lua is so far Best bart of Ascent/A.R.C.

[TheNlghtmare]

Remember that Mangos Funservers are created before any Antrix/Ascent. WoWScape used MaNGOS before Antrix. If you have good developers it is not bad and yeah Lua is so far Best bart of Ascent/A.R.C.

It doesn't matter if you remember or not becaue they are no longer using Mangos.

You are allowed to go public but they dont like/Support it. Do you get it?
For public server example :
Deathknell - more than 50k Accounts i guess(i think even more than 200k).

Didn't I phrase this a little differently. Thanks for the confirmation though, lol...

So then... if there are stable Mangos servers. An educational non advertising list of them should be provided for myself and other curious MMOwned members including the original creator of this thread who may be interested in making the switch over to another stable emulator that can handle over 1000 players (in this case Mangos.)

Theres plenty of servers with users going from 1000-2000 online at a time running mangos, and having 1-7 day uptimes. They just aren't so after the money like the ones using ascent deriatives are (look at xtremetop, almost all servers running arc and 100% of them have "buy gear for real money" thing going on. It's pure business.)

But for servers running mangos, visagali's one (only lithuanians allowed) , lots of german ones, alphawow.. the one which's name i dont remember.. it's admin uses these forums anyway +alot more..

"Dk" I think is Mangos correct? That was only one server that was mentioned. They have donations. Let's not be so biased now fanboys. Please.

And as of now a list of Mangos servers that a live and populated would be a total of three with names. This is not all at reassuring.

How do you define 'good'? You cant use Lua which is a huge disadvantage as a lot of people said, and It's not as flexable.
Depends what you want the server for, if I wanted a blizzlike server I would pick mangos, funserver, ArcEmu.

Brilliantly stated! By the way Stoneharry, you are hands down one of the most talented contributors to ArcEmu.
I think I would strongly agree that "blizzlike" servers have the upper hand over most other selections of wow emulation services shared on the internet. As for customization, which most private server players constantly crave for, Ascent is the way to go, and ArcEmu (and any other emulator that has or ever will branch over as open source from the above last two mentioned public released emulators.)

[Kalash47]

I think this topic has been extremely distorted from its original direction.

I've gotten a lot of great feedback, thank you very much to those who replied.

Keep discussing, I have a pretty good idea though. Please do not turn it in to Ascent vs MaNGOS thread.

[Noobcraft]

Ide like to see them try to stop me from hosting a public mango's server!

Not that im going to anyway.....

[Greed]

Ide like to see them try to stop me from hosting a public mango's server!

Not that im going to anyway.....

Mangos can go public....

ArcEmu is a rip off Ascent and i prefer Ascent over any emu (or for those old enough Antrix)