MaNGOS Popularity

[Kalash47]

I would never use mangos. End of story.

Please explain why, you aren't helping me with the information.

Agreed, but i absolutely hate it.

Every release they make, they change there DB order and name, there commands are weird, some make commonsense but most are broken/wtf commands.

Mangos imo isn't for customizing its a blizzlike realm, which more power to it, but most people join private servers for customization.

DB order needs to be changed to implement new & stable features.
Do you find adding SQLs constantly annoying? Is that it?
How is ArcEmu better at customization.

Ascent/Arcemu has LUA and its faster.

Mangos is more stable, slower, and has more stuff working. Doesn't have LUA.
also I believe you're not allowed to make a "public" server with Mangos(Yes a few friends is allowed, no not 500)

It's not any slower than ArcEmu, in fact, in some cases it's better and soon with the new ACE NetCode it will be faster for sure

Thanks for letting me know about LUA

Why is everyone saying Mangos is so stable? I used to run Mangos.. crashed every 4-10 hours one month. Very irritating. I liked it though actually. I switched over to ArcEmu and Ascent. User friendly, easy to use, and MUCH more stable. My uptime with the same amount of users playing or more can last up to a week. Beautiful!

It is very stable, unless you've used MaNGOS 3 months ago, for from 6400 and up I've read reports of 1000+ players staying online for 1-3 days. That's impressive.

Git is also a very nice system, but at the moment, I'm more focused on MaNGOS Popularity for the general user.

Thanks for your feedback, please keep it coming

[TheNlghtmare]

mangos is and will be the best ..most stable emu atm most fixed emu and no custom things..lol it can be better customized then ascent ..try some funservers then ya see..
all can be done what acent have ...exaple my server ---and more things added what ascent cant do everand thats totaly right that magos have most things fixed from all emus

What????????????????????

[Dythzer]

Why is everyone saying Mangos is so stable? I used to run Mangos.. crashed every 4-10 hours one month. Very irritating. I liked it though actually. I switched over to ArcEmu and Ascent. User friendly, easy to use, and MUCH more stable. My uptime with the same amount of users playing or more can last up to a week. Beautiful!

Possible reasons why it wasn't stable for you:
* Mangos for wotlk? (ofc very unstable atm)
* Hosting public server with windows vista and using same computer for other applications or games?
* Can't setup a server properly?
* Using a repack?

[TheNlghtmare]

Please explain why, you aren't helping me with the information.

DB order needs to be changed to implement new & stable features.
Do you find adding SQLs constantly annoying? Is that it?
How is ArcEmu better at customization.


It's not any slower than ArcEmu, in fact, in some cases it's better and soon with the new ACE NetCode it will be faster for sure

Thanks for letting me know about LUA


It is very stable, unless you've used MaNGOS 3 months ago, for from 6400 and up I've read reports of 1000+ players staying online for 1-3 days. That's impressive.

Git is also a very nice system, but at the moment, I'm more focused on MaNGOS Popularity for the general user.

Thanks for your feedback, please keep it coming

I used Mangos back in '07 three months after TBC retail release. So it's been some time. And most mainstream private servers are seen using ArcEmu, Aspire, or Ascent, so I wasn't very truthworthy of Mangos anymore, and still aren't. I need some proof of Mangos server uptimes etc... Not rumors. I am like Renne Descartes... Doubt anything that has decieved you once.

[TheNlghtmare]

Possible reasons why it wasn't stable for you:
* Mangos for wotlk? (ofc very unstable atm)
* Hosting public server with windows vista and using same computer for other applications or games?
* Can't setup a server properly?
* Using a repack?

- no.. Classic TBC
- Public on XP
- Server was set up properly... I've ran multiple mangos servers in the past...
- Repacks are cool for multiple servers, but the one at the time I was using (Mangos) was not a repack.

EDIT: I would never use the same machine to host and play on a WoW server. I don't think anyone in their right mind should or would.

EDIT: I will only revert back to Mangos on the following conditions:

.LUA Support
.Working BGS (This means Alterac Valley as well.)
.More Customization
.Stability
.Confirmed TBC 3.0.2 support (with proof of a running server with active players only.)
.Proof!

[Dythzer]

I used Mangos back in '07 three months after TBC retail release. So it's been some time. And most mainstream private servers are seen using ArcEmu, Aspire, or Ascent, so I wasn't very truthworthy of Mangos anymore, and still aren't. I need some proof of Mangos server uptimes etc... Not rumors. I am like Renne Descartes... Doubt anything that has decieved you once.

Oh so it was 2007, that explains everything. Yeah, back then mangos was very unstable, but it has improved a lot.
Ok so you need proof:

For more proof, look at people sigs on mangosproject or uptime on public servers website.

.LUA Support
.Working BGS (This means Alterac Valley as well.)
.More Customization
.Stability
.Confirmed TBC 3.0.2 support (with proof of a running server with active players only.)

1. Will probably never happen. The one and the only real scripting project for mangos is using C++. There was a LUA project once (named MangosScript) but not many people made scripts for it since C++ is a lot more powerful so they didn't continue.
2. All BGs working except Alterac Valley. However, there is a patch for it made by balrok which you easily can download and use now when mangos switched to git.
3. What do you mean with more customization?
4. It is stable.
5. Soon

[Aznex]

It's not any slower than ArcEmu, in fact, in some cases it's better and soon with the new ACE NetCode it will be faster for sure

Well maybe you had it running on a good pc I definitely noticed a difference when switching from mangos to arcemu. But well if its not a problem for you then I guess that's a good thing!

ACE will probably do the job tho, have no idea since I haven't used or actually looked at anything mangos related in a long time

[Kalash47]

.LUA Support
.Working BGS (This means Alterac Valley as well.)
.More Customization
.Stability
.Confirmed TBC 3.0.2 support (with proof of a running server with active players only.)
.Proof!

Even Arc doesn't have a working AV. MaNGOS has an AV patch going on.

DEFINE more customization. In what ways? It's frustrating to hear such a generalization of the term. What do you mean when you say this.

Stability - view post above me.

3.0.2 - I'm sure that MaNGOS will support WOTLK much more quickly than Arc. They've been working on it privately for several months.

[AzolexX]

O.K. , best MaNGOS is now much better than 1 year ago, it is much better than Ascent, ArcEmu and Aspire (ATM) it doesn't crashes almost at all. Also all battleground's Work, always latest patch support, much more stuff working(spell, etc) WotlK is Stable(more than any ArcEmu revision) about 3 Hours for not OFFICIAL MaNGOS support but some other guys that make patches(I respect them)
Only thing i don't like at MaNGOS is no PvE witch is hard to script there(not Lua , but C++) ScriptDev does great work but they are more outdated than any AscentScripting team.
MaNGOS is not bad it is 3 years in development and much better than any other Open-Source Emus out here. Only WoWScape's Emu is better than it.

Originally Posted by nickelo View Post
I would never use mangos. End of story.

You never Really used Mangos,you only heard its bad like one year ago...try it...

[AzolexX]

Why is everyone saying Mangos is so stable? I used to run Mangos.. crashed every 4-10 hours one month. Very irritating. I liked it though actually. I switched over to ArcEmu and Ascent. User friendly, easy to use, and MUCH more stable. My uptime with the same amount of users playing or more can last up to a week. Beautiful!

Loled...so even if it crashes every 3-5 hours is it bad? Ascent crashes after 5-10 hours
Aspire after one day,ArcEMu after 10 seconds so?
And Mangos is very stable it can run 2 days without crash if you properly set it up and use not bugged revisions....use milestones they are much stable!

[Performer]

I dont use MaNGOS mainly because it does not use LUA.

Plus well. its just ugly. And you can hardly find any stuff for it. Its all for ascent

[obionekanobi123]

here we go again like all other topics ...we had about mangos and ascent ..ascent is ysut pice of shit mangos have great uptime now it was shitty at first but now its awsome with like 10+ days uptime ...ascent sucs becos too many bugs try to argue over that ye mangos can look ugly and are harder then ascent and dont use lua ..your right but there is c++ and mangos is and will be the best bugfree emu out there run them both and first comare spells or whateva sustem ya want ya see right away that mangos have 99.9% more stuff working then ascent ---
mangos it better in any ways then ascent ...

[Kalash47]

It's not a MaNGOS vs Ascent thread. I want to see what people don't like about MaNGOS, and maybe...do some stuff about it

[Ickybad]

I use mangos because arcemu sucks, and ascent isn't very stable with 3.0.2 atm. Aspire is doing okay though respect to both of them. Most people who don't use mangos don't understnad a core or its coding or just are plainly dumb founded by what other people say about it. Its a good emulator just needs some stability improvements. And an LUA engine in it and it be perfect. Also it has UDB witch is the best database available for mangos and i say is the best db in general.

[AzolexX]

Here is thing:
I like MaNGOS but i don't use it.

I dont use MaNGOS mainly because it does not use LUA.

Plus well. its just ugly. And you can hardly find any stuff for it. Its all for ascent

Yeah that is main reason, there are no good core edits and for some normal guy to fix code need to know whole MaNGOS core witch ascent doesn't require but MaNGOS is better than ArcEmu, Aspire and Ascent in some ways and in some is not.