Memory Editing Section Call For Input

[Azzie2k8]

I am sorry but I did not read all the previous posts and I only want to give my 2 cents about this.

Personally I'd think it would be great to step away from the "offering offsets" part (which this forums actually plays whether it was intented or not) to a place where general things about reversing can be discussed. Don't get me wrong the current state of this section is still better than most of the stuff out there(internet) but since you guys are complaining about people asking to be spoonfed the obvious solution to me seems to explain how to generally go about reversing WoW (or any other similar game).
Ofc there are things that you require at a minimum to understand such explanations (i.e. assembler and so on). I guess my point is that if some people went ahead and explained basic concepts of how to approach reversing a game like how to recognize what a function does whether or not it is better to work online or offline (in terms of code flow analysis vs. disassembling) there'd be alot less people asking for stuff.

Btw I am sorry if my lingo is a bit off I am not used to express stuff like this in english.

[Kalle200000]

Along these lines, how about something like:

General Reversing (Any reversing topics that don't fit into the other sections - e.g. OS internals, vulnerability discovery/exploitation, general anti-cheat dev/discussion, assembly tricks, etc)
Beginner (Questions by beginners, and tutorials by experienced members)
Advanced (Discussion by experienced members)

[Game Title] Reversing (One for each game, assuming there is enough interest/activity)
Beginner (Questions by beginners, and tutorials by experienced members)
Advanced (Discussion by experienced members)
Dumps (Informational dumps of offests, structure layouts, function names/call-conv/params, etc. Should be moderated to remove anything that is not purely informational. e.g. No questions asking for updated dumps. I wonder what to do about discussion that a particular dump/entry is incorrect though...)

The main problem I see though is that there seem to be 'too many' forum sections. Though, perhaps such a restructure will encourage enough new activity to make it viable. Who can really say?

As Apoc said I think that would split the section apart, in my opinion we should try to tie the section together instead.

I think maybe 2 section total would suffice.

One for general discussion/questions/etc, and one aimed towards games specifically (with the game in the title obviously).

It seems like there's too many sections, and people won't know where their question lies. Eg; if someone asks a question about the best method to "hook" a function, would that be in beginner, or advanced? It really depends on the hooking method.

Maybe it'd be sufficient to enforce a "tag your thread or it will be deleted" type rule. So those of us tired of answering beginner questions asking the same thing, can simply ignore them. Maybe in addition to the previous, a "ensure your title explains the actual thread". Such that "I have a question..." titled threads are deleted right away without any look within the thread. However "[WoW][Beginner] Reading a player's casting speed" is not.

I really like the tag. Then you could have lets say 3 sections. The main one for general discussion and then one subsection for question and one for game individual dumps. Then you have bundle all the questions under one section. Then I suggest that tutorials will be placed in the main section and that it will be a sticky thread will a list of tutorials for easy access.

[Cypher]

I think maybe 2 section total would suffice.

One for general discussion/questions/etc, and one aimed towards games specifically (with the game in the title obviously).

It seems like there's too many sections, and people won't know where their question lies. Eg; if someone asks a question about the best method to "hook" a function, would that be in beginner, or advanced? It really depends on the hooking method.

Maybe it'd be sufficient to enforce a "tag your thread or it will be deleted" type rule. So those of us tired of answering beginner questions asking the same thing, can simply ignore them. Maybe in addition to the previous, a "ensure your title explains the actual thread". Such that "I have a question..." titled threads are deleted right away without any look within the thread. However "[WoW][Beginner] Reading a player's casting speed" is not.

​Yep, I agree, that's a much better way to do it.

[Jadd]

This is what I was thinking, as well as some other popular games - BF3, MW3, etc.

Would attract much more people. At the moment it's buried in 23098472139 directories. I would love to see it this way. Who agrees?

[Nesox]

This is what I was thinking, as well as some other popular games - BF3, MW3, etc.

Would attract much more people. At the moment it's buried in 23098472139 directories. I would love to see it this way. Who agrees?

You got my vote

[KuRIoS]

Add a reversing forum in my opinion. Move all the current memory editing sections, as well as some new games (TERA, Diablo 3, FPS games, etc.) into it and put it at the top (under the "News" section or something). I mean, Memory Editing sections are buried in like 3 directories, I often wonder how people even manage to find this place. I don't think a wiki is really necessary, but rather some more publicity.

I can tell you right away, that it will NOT be placed directly under News You can however collapse sections and make it appear to be at the top, if that is what you would want.

I see WIKI as a possibility, but it can't be like last time, as that was a huge security risk!

[Jadd]

I can tell you right away, that it will NOT be placed directly under News You can however collapse sections and make it appear to be at the top, if that is what you would want.

Why not? These days, this community (and alot of the WoW community that doesn't come here) is more interested botting and hacking, as well as learning how to do these things - rather than performing exploits or reading gold guides. I think this would be a great way to bring in some members. In my opinion, it would be a very smart move to make OwnedCore more centered around reverse engineering.

[KuRIoS]

Why not? These days, this community (and alot of the WoW community that doesn't come here) is more interested botting and hacking, as well as learning how to do these things - rather than performing exploits or reading gold guides. I think this would be a great way to bring in some members. In my opinion, it would be a very smart move to make OwnedCore more centered around reverse engineering.

And if you were a model editor then you think it would be model editing that people come here for.. To me, the exploits / guides etc sections are quite a lot more active than the various programming/ mem editing sections - So I believe you are mistaken.

But there is no need to discuss that here. Or well you can, but it wont do you any good

[Apoc]

How about the general structure Kur?

I think having a category for REing is fine (probably not so many forums, since SWTOR/Tera/D3 aren't seeing a lot of activity. Definitely a WoW specific, maybe another "Other Games" which we can branch off of when traffic gets more consistent in them (if at all))

OC is the place to go to for basically all the info you need for writing bots/hacks for WoW. (No other site has nearly as much content as us)

[Cypher]

And if you were a model editor then you think it would be model editing that people come here for.. To me, the exploits / guides etc sections are quite a lot more active than the various programming/ mem editing sections - So I believe you are mistaken.

But there is no need to discuss that here. Or well you can, but it wont do you any good

Don't you have access to the detailed numbers?

What are the top 10 sections in terms of traffic?

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This is what I was thinking, as well as some other popular games - BF3, MW3, etc.

Would attract much more people. At the moment it's buried in 23098472139 directories. I would love to see it this way. Who agrees?

This looks great.

[KuRIoS]

How about the general structure Kur?

I think having a category for REing is fine (probably not so many forums, since SWTOR/Tera/D3 aren't seeing a lot of activity. Definitely a WoW specific, maybe another "Other Games" which we can branch off of when traffic gets more consistent in them (if at all))

OC is the place to go to for basically all the info you need for writing bots/hacks for WoW. (No other site has nearly as much content as us)

I think the general structure is awesome, but I can pretty much guarantee that it will not be placed directly under news. Also as I said, the wiki is definitely a good idea, if it doesnt allow for attacks like last time and I dont really want everyone able to write in it since we have chinacunts and russian idiots who spam the **** out of everything that they can.

[JD]

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This is what I was thinking, as well as some other popular games - BF3, MW3, etc.

Would attract much more people. At the moment it's buried in 23098472139 directories. I would love to see it this way. Who agrees?

We could set it up like that but with redirects. Instead of actually having the forums there, we'd simply make a section called 'Reverse Engineering' and redirect the forums inside of that section to the forums we already have. Setting it up the way you suggested would absolutely destroy our SEO for those particular forums.

There's no way it'll be placed underneath the news. We're OwnedCore, not ReverseEngineerCore.

We can setup the wiki again if:

1. It's not as vulnerable as last time
- We don't like getting hacked, ya know?
2. Only certain members can post/edit there (Staff can choose those) With help from elite mem editing section ofc
- To make sure we don't get spammed like last time
3. It will actually be filled up
- Empty pages are bad hmkay?

Thoughts?

[Apoc]

I think the general structure is awesome, but I can pretty much guarantee that it will not be placed directly under news. Also as I said, the wiki is definitely a good idea, if it doesnt allow for attacks like last time and I dont really want everyone able to write in it since we have chinacunts and russian idiots who spam the **** out of everything that they can.

The fact that it was under News was likely just his usage of copy/pasta in the HTML to show a generalized look. I don't think any of us expect it to be underneath News. (It'll likely be somewhere around our General category)

As for the SEO drawback, that is one thing. However, some 301's should resolve it for the most part.

I'm thinking for the wiki, a subdomain (or virtual folder) under its own user (so its separated from the forum entirely, thus reducing the security risks). I'll talk to Ket about that one.

[-Ryuk-]

This is what I was thinking, as well as some other popular games - BF3, MW3, etc.

Would attract much more people. At the moment it's buried in 23098472139 directories. I would love to see it this way. Who agrees?

This has my vote Not under news though... Maybe we have:

News
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General
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Reverse Engineering
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All the games :P
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Trading
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Etc

[Novalok]

More activity in the Screen Shot Thread!, It gives me ideas on what to test.