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    Originally Posted by Forumuser1000 View Post
    No warning for me at all, I'm based in AU.

    I only use PoeHud.

    I have to be completely honest. The basic vanilla game is a steaming pile of garbage and not even worth playing without PoeHud. If PoeHud closed down or I got banned for using it, I'd sell my POE game account and not return. The game is punishing and user-unfriendly enough, as it is, let alone having to deal with useless customer support, their garbage servers and the persistent game breaking issues they have.
    Have you continued using poehud after the messages started flooding?

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    from what I gather from what chris said he said some might not get warnings but are flaged anyways cause I like I said I only used hud and one of my 2 accounts I use it with got the message but im assuming my other one is flaged as well chris said even if u didn't get a message you need to stop or you will be banned in a few days so not sure

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    Originally Posted by Jonsbe View Post
    Have you continued using poehud after the messages started flooding?
    I havnt not worth the risk intill someone finds out what flaged it

    mind you the account that did get flaged I bought so previous owner could of been map hacking I dunno
    Last edited by dd4thewin; 07-13-2018 at 01:51 AM.

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    got the warning aswell
    poeHUD with map, inventory extensions

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    Selling a banned Account? ;-)

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    Originally Posted by Forumuser1000 View Post
    No warning for me at all, I'm based in AU.

    I only use PoeHud.

    I have to be completely honest. The basic vanilla game is a steaming pile of garbage and not even worth playing without PoeHud. If PoeHud closed down or I got banned for using it, I'd sell my POE game account and not return. The game is punishing and user-unfriendly enough, as it is, let alone having to deal with useless customer support, their garbage servers and the persistent game breaking issues they have.
    Chris has said on Reddit that they have modified the detection, and bans are coming in a few days.

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    How the heck are they dedecting it?

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    Well at least they gave us a warning like 3 or so years ago.

    I'm assuming a large percentage of players use HUD so they didn't have the balls to ban all of us on the spot.

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    Originally Posted by owned23leech View Post
    How the heck are they dedecting it?
    They have not said, just they have modified the detection. I am not a programmer but I have heard that one way is to give your program a certain run level, and any program not at that run level trying to access it can be flagged.

    Lets see how the devs work through it.

    Maybe investigate something along the lines of thermida protection for the cheat. I know Orleans are not that secure now but perhaps someone has built on, and fixed the flaws ?.

    That was how it was done in the age old battlefield hacks, through Winlicence / Thermida. But that was like well over 10 years ago

    But that is all a moot point if they have changed the way they detect external programs from reading the memory.

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    Originally Posted by Psalmin View Post
    Well at least they gave us a warning like 3 or so years ago.

    I'm assuming a large percentage of players use HUD so they didn't have the balls to ban all of us on the spot.
    Maybe GGG now they have been bought out by Tencent, Tencent have given them tips on what to do.

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    must be something that modifies the game in some way even if we don't use it because I don't care how top notice detection is theres no way any game is detecting esp if its something just reading memory

    example I got warnded for cheating years ago when I was using map hack which modifies the game which makes sense I stoped using it after that so not sure whats modifying the game while using hud im sure one of the coders will look into it
    Last edited by dd4thewin; 07-13-2018 at 02:45 AM.

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    Originally Posted by Psalmin View Post
    Well at least they gave us a warning like 3 or so years ago.

    I'm assuming a large percentage of players use HUD so they didn't have the balls to ban all of us on the spot.
    From business perspective it just wouldn't be worth it. Hud impact isn't even that big in terms of game economy, (sure, you're gonna have a bit more currency cuz you are playing more efficiently, but it's nothing compared to someone who bots with few accounts) so they just scare most people who use it and call it a day.

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    Originally Posted by dd4thewin View Post
    must be something that modifies the game in some way even if we don't use it because I don't care how top notice detection is theres no way any game is detecting esp if its something just reading memory

    example I got warnded for cheating years ago when I was using map hack which modifies the game which makes sense I stoped using it after that so not sure whats modifying the game while using hud im sure one of the coders will look into it
    Well according to Stack Exchange.............



    Hypotetically speaking (since you're not asking for specific details), it is possible. However it is not 100% reliable, and there are always workaround.

    First, if your secure data is 1-8 bytes, and you run on x86, you can set a hardware breakpoint which will be triggered when this data is accessed. See. for example, GitHub - mmorearty/hardware-breakpoints: Fast halt-on-read or halt-on-write breakpoints, right in your code (Intel 32-bit Windows only)

    If you need to protect more than 32 bytes (there are 4 hardware breakpoint registers), you can use VirtualProtect with PAGE_GUARD, or make the page unreadable (PAGE_NOACCESS).

    When you need to access the data yourself, you remove the flag/breakpoint, access the data, and restore it. This of course creates the race condition, but the window of opportunity is short.

    Of course if someone has an application with a kernel driver, they can remove the hardware breakpoints or change your application page flags through the kernel driver, so this will not work. However if they only use the driver to hide the application, this should work.

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    They will also be looking at pattern detection's I assume, that how most things get caught, repeating the same thing over and over. So if you used stashie for example it can detect that, same goes for flask manager. If it is pattern detection you wont get around it and really no point chasing your tail trying to figure out what it is.

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    Originally Posted by Jonxx View Post
    From business perspective it just wouldn't be worth it. Hud impact isn't even that big in terms of game economy, (sure, you're gonna have a bit more currency cuz you are playing more efficiently, but it's nothing compared to someone who bots with few accounts) so they just scare most people who use it and call it a day.

    Yeah, to be honest i don't think they'll go trough with banning, but i'll stop using Hud for now just because i've spent 300+$ in mtx/tabs so i'd rather not risk.

    I've some 100 levels under my belt, played with some top teams occasionally, and you can immediately tell that most of them are using map hack. It's obvious.

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