The Attitude you Need to Become Rich - Written by me, WOW multi-millionaire.

[Sklug]

I like the guide, sure its a good guide to get you pumped up like ''Yeah, I'm going to make tons of cash!''.

But myself and many others are in a different spot, we dont know what make money and what dosen't. For example I go to the auction house and I see that someone undercut a Clockwork Gnome level 25 from 8k to 6k but I personally have no idea if 6k is a respectable price, is it a low price or a super high price for this pet overall.

Now you are going to give me the ''You have to LEARN the market'' but not tell me anything that could help me do that or just say ''Here download this addon, scan the AH every day for 2 weeks and you will see what is a good or a bad price''. Well I've tried the AH Scanners and they just don't cut it, I can never catch a really low price item and if I do, its a really under demanded item.

Just what I think over all about these types of guides

EDIT: I just realized that you now will give me the ''Find your own market and earn cash that way, thats what I do'' Well that dosen't really work since I can't find out what markets are on high demand and low supply, I'm sorry if I sound pessimistic and I also realize that a guide isn't gonna make you a ton of cash, YOU are responsible for that but I can't believe that people give these guides so much credit for, is you ask me, just a bunch of ''You go get them, Tiger!'' Bullshit

-Naxos

Dude I hate to sound like this, but this perspective you have is the reason why some people make gold and why others do not. This is NOT a gold guide. This is a guide about the philosophy of making gold. It was never dubbed as a "Follow this market and buy this and sell this" type of guide. There are plenty of specific ways to make gold, hundreds of them, and ownedcore is LOADED with tips on how to do it in the GUIDES forum. I was just trying to help you realize what you needed to do and the type of consistent behavior that makes rich people rich. If you focused just on that one item, the clockwork gnome, and mastered that item, guess what, you'd sell that one item, make a small profit and that would be it. There are THOUSANDS of items in the game, hundreds of battle pets. It would take too much time/effort to learn the specifics of EVERY single item, although I am sure some people out there do lol. You just need to learn to have a routine and a consistent behavior.

If you find yourself thinking like this, "Just tell me what items I need to buy and sell everyday, or farm everyday, then I will repeat that and be consistent," well, I hate to break it to you, but the upper echelons of rich WOW players will never be yours. I tried to tell you there is no magic silver bullet thing to buy or sell. The market is dynamic, living and breathing and changes quite frequently. If you are just looking for that one big score, you will find it challenging to make it rich. Big Scores are fun and all, but unpredictable, inconsistent, and not reliable as you never know when the next one might roll around.

I'm sorry you are not able to see this in this post, but I think calling it Bullshit is pretty short-sighted. Unfortunately, of the dozens of people I have given advice to over the years on how to make it rich, very very few have actually heeded me. Unsurprisingly, the ones that listened have done quite well for themselves. Unsurprisingly, the ones that blew off my advice are still no different, still in the same place, still waiting on that advice that's gonna tell them to buy X item and sell it.

Since you feel so stuck, let me give you one piece of advice... PROFESSIONS. Work your professions into a consistent routine. This is a repeat thing that happens ALL of the time to me. I get someone that asks "Hey, how do you make so much gold?" and, being a nice guy, I give em a little spiel. Then I ask them "What professions do you have?" and you know what, I will often get "NONE," to which I facepalm myself and encourage them to level a couple professions right away. Will just making Living steel day after day make you rich on your Alch? Nope, but it's one piece of the pie. I do it on my xmute masterd Alch, even though it is pennies to the dollar of the rest of my profit. But guess what, it takes a whole 20 seconds a day to transmute that living steel and often nets me a 300-400g profit. You are making a simple mistake in relying on the addons to scan and do all the work for you. TOO MANY PEOPLE THINK that the addon is will give them free gold, or point out a quick deal. Well guess what, there are hundreds of other players on your server all with that same addon lol. It is a tool to be used to help navigate the AH better, to help look at prices in a cleaner more obvious way. These addons don't give you answers, they just give you data for you to make judgements on. I personally don't even bother with the scanning much myself.

But, like I said, at the end of the day, it's all about CONSISTENT behavior and the right attitude. As a gold guru for quite a long time, I encourage you to really consider my advice in this guide. Without this foundation, it doesn't matter how many awesome guides come out that tell you what to do to make gold.

Good Luck, and I hope you change your mind.

[Naxos1337]

That's your major obstacle..

Saying that then just talking about how hard it is to teach people things and being generally unhelpful just makes your comment a waste of space.

I just had an instant scenario pop up in my head with you as a mechanic for some reason.

Dude with a broken car - I'm having car problems, I think its my (insert random thing here).

You - Well, thats obviously your problem... I think a screwdriver just might help you out, it takes the stress of your hands, unless you want to try it with your fingers, which is fine but its gonna take a lot more time.

[Jaladhjin]

Welp..my advice to you is to learn the market..

How do do that is by immersing yourself in it..taking the time to look at the auction house often..see what's available..how much..how often..

Once you've seen how your market on your realm is..you'll have a far better idea the value of items..& the potential of buying low & selling high..

You don't even have to play the auction house either..learn what sells by looking through the auction house..no "tools" needed..just the default UI..searching for things that sell well & making them..

If you need more than that..this might not be your niche ;-)

[Naxos1337]

Dude I hate to sound like this, but this perspective you have is the reason why some people make gold and why others do not. This is NOT a gold guide. This is a guide about the philosophy of making gold. It was never dubbed as a "Follow this market and buy this and sell this" type of guide. There are plenty of specific ways to make gold, hundreds of them, and ownedcore is LOADED with tips on how to do it in the GUIDES forum. I was just trying to help you realize what you needed to do and the type of consistent behavior that makes rich people rich. If you focused just on that one item, the clockwork gnome, and mastered that item, guess what, you'd sell that one item, make a small profit and that would be it. There are THOUSANDS of items in the game, hundreds of battle pets. It would take too much time/effort to learn the specifics of EVERY single item, although I am sure some people out there do lol. You just need to learn to have a routine and a consistent behavior.

If you find yourself thinking like this, "Just tell me what items I need to buy and sell everyday, or farm everyday, then I will repeat that and be consistent," well, I hate to break it to you, but the upper echelons of rich WOW players will never be yours. I tried to tell you there is no magic silver bullet thing to buy or sell. The market is dynamic, living and breathing and changes quite frequently. If you are just looking for that one big score, you will find it challenging to make it rich. Big Scores are fun and all, but unpredictable, inconsistent, and not reliable as you never know when the next one might roll around.

I'm sorry you are not able to see this in this post, but I think calling it Bullshit is pretty short-sighted. Unfortunately, of the dozens of people I have given advice to over the years on how to make it rich, very very few have actually heeded me. Unsurprisingly, the ones that listened have done quite well for themselves. Unsurprisingly, the ones that blew off my advice are still no different, still in the same place, still waiting on that advice that's gonna tell them to buy X item and sell it.

Since you feel so stuck, let me give you one piece of advice... PROFESSIONS. Work your professions into a consistent routine. This is a repeat thing that happens ALL of the time to me. I get someone that asks "Hey, how do you make so much gold?" and, being a nice guy, I give em a little spiel. Then I ask them "What professions do you have?" and you know what, I will often get "NONE," to which I facepalm myself and encourage them to level a couple professions right away. While just making Living steel day after day make you rich? Nope, but it's one piece of the pie. I do it on my xmute masterd Alch, even though it is pennies to the dollar of the rest of my profit. But guess what, it takes a whole 20 seconds a day to transmute that living steel and often nets me a 300-400g profit. You are making a simple mistake in relying on the addons to scan and do all the work for you. TOO MANY PEOPLE THINK that the addon is will give them free gold, or point out a quick deal. Well guess what, there are hundreds of other players on your server all with that same addon lol. It is a tool to be used to help navigate the AH better, to help look at prices in a cleaner more obvious way. These addons don't give you answers, they just give you data for you to make judgements on. I personally don't even bother with the scanning much myself.

But, like I said, at the end of the day, it's all about CONSISTENT behavior and the right attitude. As a gold guru for quite a long time, I encourage you to really consider my advice in this guide. Without this foundation, it doesn't matter how many awesome guides come out that tell you what to do to make gold.

Good Luck, and I hope you change your mind.

I realize that I sound like a huge douche bag in my comments above, its just that no one has ever given me guide lines for seeing what items are high and what are low demand, I just get the same spheel every time, find your market and use it!

I just need some guide lines to what to do in a very loose manner, like for example: ''Just look for [Insert something helpful here] on an item and watch out for [These changes in example price] and its going to help you out finding what items are worth to sell are which are not!''

Then again it might not be that simple, but there must be SOMETHING you can do to figure these things out, because everytime I read one of these guides I get really pumped up, open up the AH Browser and I just sit there for a while and think ''What the hell do I do now'' I do have proffesions, I've got Fishing 600, Cooking 600, Engineering 600, Arch 600 Mining 600, Herbing 600 and Blacksmithing 600 spread over 4 toons, none of these has gotten me anything in terms of gold because again, I dont know what to make that is on demand at that point in time. Thank you for your time and I apologize for sounding like an ******* I realize that and i'm really sorry.

EDIT: You must understand that I do farm daily with herb and mining, its the rest that do not make me any cash because they are not as straight forward as a farming proffesion.

EDIT2: I also dismissed the addons as I do not find them useful at all, I just think they overcomplicate things, for example TSM and Auctioneer just confuse me and I end up at the same place I was before ''What the hell do I do now'' kind of situation.

I have played this game for over 8 years now and I can never make sense out of these things, I'm not some sort of retard when talking about electronics, i've built my own system, I have programmed a simpler game but these addons just confuse me.

I have never had a lot of gold; the top I got was 22k in Cata and that was via botting mining and selling the Rubies uncut for like 100g each (each run netted me something like 50 rubies after transmutes).

-Naxos

[Sklug]

Naxos,

You have all the professions, except for your gathering, that are the HARDEST to make gold on!!! In what you say about TSM, let me just say that the TSM is a VERY powerful addon that helps you a lot in time-management. It is complicated, but if you take the 1 or 2 hrs investment to learn how to use it, you will never look back. Seriously... extremely helpful, so don't write that off just cause it's complicated.

stormspire.net is the TSM community and millionaire hangout for tips on what to look for or flavor of the months, or how to prep to make gold for 5.2, etc... Read their guide on how to setup TSM, and consider picking up something like Alch, JC.

[kilauea]

The people playing WoW today have it WAY TOO GOOD. You have tools like TSM, Auctionator, The Undermine Journal, and WoWUction that DIDN'T EXIST when I played hardcore in Vanilla/TBC. I play only casually now so money isn't an issue for me. Tools like TUJ will flat out tell you what's trending on your server, which helps you understand what is selling and what's not. Okay, we had Auctioneer back then, but still... nothing as powerful as these tools. They can alert my phone when good pricing deals occur on the AH, and with Blizzard's app I can even manage the AH while I'm not even in the game. Crazy.

Make an account on TUJ and just watch your server for awhile. Watch the ups and downs of prices and check the frequency at which things sell. This is totally server dependent. I'm on a medium pop server where there are little to no high-end raiding guilds left on Horde side, so flasks/herbs/raiding mats aren't in high demand as they used to be 6 years ago when Horde was dominant. On the flip side, this allows me to jack up my prices of herbs for the people that want to level their profession 1-600. Just as an example for you, you need to understand your target demographic.

[Jaladhjin]

I just need some guide lines to what to do in a very loose manner, like for example: ''Just look for [Insert something helpful here] on an item and watch out for [These changes in example price] and its going to help you out finding what items are worth to sell are which are not!''

One thing you could do is search the auction house with no key words..just the open field..sort by price to see what's selling the highest on your realm..scroll through a few pages & think to yourself do I want to devote the time & effort to making or acquiring these things ? If you do..& can reason out the cost of doing so would be low enough that list price is within a decent profit range..rock & roll..

Search fish to see which are selling well..catch & sell those..

Are flasks selling well ? Is your alchemist Elixir speciality ? that'd be somethin'..

If you're constantly involved in the market & devote the time to it..you'll grow accustomed to what things normally sell for..when you see lower prices over time you can determine if the market is actually declining or if some greedy botter is just undercutting you to make less faster..

The problem I think you have & the information I think you're looking for..isn't available..no one can tell you look for these items specifically..if they are ever under this much buy them..never sell them below this amount because they're worth more..

Sad to say the value of anything is what some fool sells it for..or is willing to buy it for..the market is never & will never be stable enough that there will be commonly known agreed upon prices for anything..

There should be..it'd be nice if there was..unfortunately there's 0 regulation in the free open market of WoW..

[Unholyshaman]

But myself and many others are in a different spot, we dont know what make money and what dosen't. For example I go to the auction house and I see that someone undercut a Clockwork Gnome level 25 from 8k to 6k but I personally have no idea if 6k is a respectable price, is it a low price or a super high price for this pet overall.

Well I think this is what separates this guide from all the rest. There are (seriously) THOUSANDS of threads and posts and pages and guides and videos and what not out there telling you what to buy and what to sell. But monkey see monkey do only gets you so far in gold making. Spend some time looking at them, figuring out what you need to do, then come back and remember this thread.

[Sklug]

The people playing WoW today have it WAY TOO GOOD. You have tools like TSM, Auctionator, The Undermine Journal, and WoWUction that DIDN'T EXIST when I played hardcore in Vanilla/TBC. I play only casually now so money isn't an issue for me. Tools like TUJ will flat out tell you what's trending on your server, which helps you understand what is selling and what's not. Okay, we had Auctioneer back then, but still... nothing as powerful as these tools. They can alert my phone when good pricing deals occur on the AH, and with Blizzard's app I can even manage the AH while I'm not even in the game. Crazy.

Make an account on TUJ and just watch your server for awhile. Watch the ups and downs of prices and check the frequency at which things sell. This is totally server dependent. I'm on a medium pop server where there are little to no high-end raiding guilds left on Horde side, so flasks/herbs/raiding mats aren't in high demand as they used to be 6 years ago when Horde was dominant. On the flip side, this allows me to jack up my prices of herbs for the people that want to level their profession 1-600. Just as an example for you, you need to understand your target demographic.

This is actually very good advice for a beginner that maybe also puts things into perspective. Just because being an alchemist on one server and having a HUGE feast on flask sales works, for other people, that market might be completely tanked. It could be tanked for the reason this guy said, or on some high pop servers that actually have demand, it could be still tanked cause you have 30 people all selling. You need to evaluate what works for your server at that given time. That is what separates a lot of the poor from the rich on a server, the ability to meet the needs of your market on your server and be able to adjust accordingly. Of course, it ALL goes back to my OP, that even with that knowledge, it will get you nothing unless you are CONSISTENT about it.

Appreciate the contribution here.