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    Most likely you won't be able to sap shamans in the beginning since they're using ghostwolf Anyway good guide.
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    Originally Posted by jarmale6 View Post
    How do you sheep a druid ? druids got this nice macro that you can shapswift out of it in 0.5 sec and by the time you let the druid shapswift again the rogue already got 2 lifebloom on him
    You probably don't play a mage , don't you?1st sheeping the druid will make him lose time to click the buttonw hile your rogue do hemorrage , 2nd if the druid is pressing any hot and u sheep him , he will lose even more time because of GCD + even at 2200 2on2 druid don't shapeshift under 2-1.5 seconds of time

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    Now ehm, i play mage rogue at 2.1k in season 4 atm. And i would like to correct you:

    PRIEST ENHASHAMAN - You're making this way more difficult than it is. You can completely spell lock (stun/silence) a shaman so he wont even get to use his shamanistic rage before he dies, all this while sheeping the priest, and if he trinkets do a blind (o rly). Thing is, this requires high damage, but if you both know how to play, this is so terribly easy facing. If you don't know how to play, and ur damage sucks just because it's a shaman, you shouldn't be playing mage rogue at all.

    PRIEST(DISCI) LOCK(HARD+)
    This is not hard at all, since nuking the pet down is gonna happen in a very few seconds, and from there you can't simply let him summon again. You've got cs, kick, gouge, stuns, vanish-garrote, vanish-newstun to prevent this. If you haven't got the reflexes, i strongly recomend you start playing some games just to improve your reflexes. 0.5 seconds is easily doable. From there, i agree with your tactics, but i just disagree it's hard.

    DRUID(RESTO) ROGUE(HARD)
    This is not hard. As you say, cheap shot rogue when he goes for mage, but don't kidney shot. mage should just start loading shatter combo, as soon as rogue pops on him, because your rogue will stun him before the enemy rogue even gets to kick. Since you don't kidney shotted, just do a Slice and dice, for more damage for the next seconds of the match. Druid will pop out cos of shatter combo on rogue, so rogue sprints and blinds him, he's by then forced to use trinket, and that's where you go for him, cheap shot, gouge (mage loads shatter if the rogue is sheeped, if not just pet nova - lance), then kidney shot. When he goes low, vanish-garrote, after that place the counterspell. By then he should be dead. This requires alot of your mages survivability, but it aint really that hard.


    I play rogue in this setup . My tactics relies on your players being good, but hey - you're not born with it, it's fully trainable. So gogo practice.

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    Originally Posted by nizee View Post
    Now ehm, i play mage rogue at 2.1k in season 4 atm. And i would like to correct you:

    PRIEST ENHASHAMAN - You're making this way more difficult than it is. You can completely spell lock (stun/silence) a shaman so he wont even get to use his shamanistic rage before he dies, all this while sheeping the priest, and if he trinkets do a blind (o rly). Thing is, this requires high damage, but if you both know how to play, this is so terribly easy facing. If you don't know how to play, and ur damage sucks just because it's a shaman, you shouldn't be playing mage rogue at all.

    PRIEST(DISCI) LOCK(HARD+)
    This is not hard at all, since nuking the pet down is gonna happen in a very few seconds, and from there you can't simply let him summon again. You've got cs, kick, gouge, stuns, vanish-garrote, vanish-newstun to prevent this. If you haven't got the reflexes, i strongly recomend you start playing some games just to improve your reflexes. 0.5 seconds is easily doable. From there, i agree with your tactics, but i just disagree it's hard.

    DRUID(RESTO) ROGUE(HARD)
    This is not hard. As you say, cheap shot rogue when he goes for mage, but don't kidney shot. mage should just start loading shatter combo, as soon as rogue pops on him, because your rogue will stun him before the enemy rogue even gets to kick. Since you don't kidney shotted, just do a Slice and dice, for more damage for the next seconds of the match. Druid will pop out cos of shatter combo on rogue, so rogue sprints and blinds him, he's by then forced to use trinket, and that's where you go for him, cheap shot, gouge (mage loads shatter if the rogue is sheeped, if not just pet nova - lance), then kidney shot. When he goes low, vanish-garrote, after that place the counterspell. By then he should be dead. This requires alot of your mages survivability, but it aint really that hard.


    I play rogue in this setup . My tactics relies on your players being good, but hey - you're not born with it, it's fully trainable. So gogo practice.
    PRIEST ENHASHAM: If he equips a shield and start kiteing in ghostwolf u won't easily kill him ....
    PRIEST LOCK: Sometimes the lock even fakecast the fel domination :| if he summons the 2nd pet you are pretty ****ed.
    DRUID ROGUE: nothing to say

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    Originally Posted by predatorino View Post
    PRIEST ENHASHAM: If he equips a shield and start kiteing in ghostwolf u won't easily kill him ....
    PRIEST LOCK: Sometimes the lock even fakecast the fel domination :| if he summons the 2nd pet you are pretty ****ed.
    DRUID ROGUE: nothing to say

    PRIEST ENHASHAM: Getting kited by an enhancement shaman?
    You've got sprint, vanish, clos to escape his slows.
    You've got cripling poison and deadly throw (not even dispelable) to make him slower
    You've even got a mage hitting him with slows for you which can't be dispelled even.

    Shield doesn't remove all damage, just makes the match rely a little more on ur gear.



    PRIEST LOCK: I would really like to see you fakecasting a 0.5 sec cast, seing there's a GCD on the summon, and it gets cs'ed/kicked at 0.2-0.3 sec.

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    nice man real nice

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    Wow dude this is an awesome guide. I am a mage and my best friend is a rouge so we were thinking about doing 2v2's. This has definately convienced me to do this. Looking forward to more strats!

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