Why the PQR wave comes now (A theory)

[Thomja]

Hey

Now I seem to have been one of the lucky ones not getting caught by this but I stopped using PQR on my main account months ago. But a lot of people were not so lucky though. But I wanna talk and find out your opinions on the subject. I think that if you all are very lucky there might be light at the end of the tunnel to get your accounts back. Now please don't take my word for it as all of this is just theories of mine and speculations.

The banwave hit us the 22nd of January of 2014. PQR has been up ever since 2011 but it has been growing ever since. Now it had reached a certain point whereby the majority of the high ranked players were using it to help them do raids or arenas. PQR is especially helpful in PvP as there are a lot of things to consider and a lot to think about at all time. There are a number of really good PvP profiles for PQR. One of the best ones for example must have been Vitalics profiles. Profiles like these were a complete game changer changing the experience for everyone. Now as to why they chose to send out the bans right now I believe could be because now people have renewed their annual subscriptions and Blizzard has gotten what they wanted. People on the WoW forums have been complaining about Blizzard being lazy when it comes to deal with bots so this also ended up in giving a big rep bonus for them on the forums.

So right now they have recieved their cash and reputation increase. But there is more. Queues to many populated server will now decrease if not disappear. Making them save money on hardware upgrade. The amount of support tickets will decrease because of the amount players quitting the game entirely. This to combat the support representatives that they layed off not too long ago. They have found out how many people would be willing to come back after a loss of the mane accounts with people buying new subscriptions as well as finding out how many people were actually using the program to begin with(But they could have done this without banning people).

But there are also bad sides of the story for Blizzard, they will of course loose a lot of players. But this is where the light at the end of the tunnel comes in. Some people will buy new accounts and creating new subscriptions. Netting Blizzard even more money. We all know that Blizzard wants money and players. But in the end reversing the bans of the accounts in a week. By doing this they will keep the players, people will have made new subscriptions for nothing. People will go back to their main accounts and be more careful when it comes to using these types of programs.

Now all of this is just theory but who knows

Good luck everyone!

[gkelter]

So you turned the 4 messages I typed into the shoutbawx into a TL;DR for some free rep. Good for you! +rep

[Watcher]

Attempts on trying to get more money will fail. As people spend too much time on their accounts to try to recover from the permanent ban. Why throw more money at a company that does not care about their customers. People who never done things wrong for years did not even get a warning. And they just got hit permanent. You want to keep throwing money to them?

Why they waited this long. Is like you said pqr has grown too big to a point that they had to do something about it. They knew late 2013 who were using pqr and started making logs on people that were using it. And in january they started the banwave. My guess would be when they show their 2013 numbers of subscriptions they got. That they are trying to make it look like they still got a lot of people playing wow.

People know what they were doing is not allowed by blizz. But there have been no previous bans on PQR before and now out of nowhere they decided to throw permanent bans around. I wonder who is running their business departement and thinks that this is a good move with WOD coming out and hoping to get more subcriptions.

Blizz never ceases to amaze me.

[Thomja]

So you turned the 4 messages I typed into the shoutbawx into a TL;DR for some free rep. Good for you! +rep

lol why would I write this for rep? I did see the messages in the shoutbawx and I thought that they had a valid point and I agreed with them. I never said that I made the theories.

[gippy]

I honestly think it was a pretty big mistake on blizzards part perma banning people, the game isn't as big as it once was and has been flagging for most people for quite awhile. Take my first ever ban for luaninja, the game was buzzing back then, i was honestly gutted about my losing my account back then even though it was pretty crap and could be remade in a few weeks, which i did. Fast forward to now, i was a few achievements off 20k, many mounts and i know if i merged another account to my battlenet i could access everything apart from the 90s i lost but i wont, why?

The game just isn't gripping anymore, theres no immersion, the quests ingame are just utter crap, its literally a to b and back with some dialogue from an npc you've never seen in your time playing and probably will never see again. Pvp is utter trash, classes just mongoloiding their way to high rating with ease whilst other specs get smashed to smithereens, cc is out of control, you spend more time in stuns/cc than you do actually playing your character, paired with the fact that some rng crits could mean you die in a few seconds with no chance to react. Rbg wintraders hold the top of the ladders, they'll get their rewards at the season also, like they did 2 seasons ago and blizz allow it to happen, pretty much giving the green light to people to do it as there is a minimal chance you'll be punished.

Content patchs these-days are terrible, we either get dailies or that crappy isle which was fun for the first week and we're expected to sit on our hands for the next 6+month and enjoy logging in every wednesday, clearing our stuff then awaiting the week after. Its basically became a game of resets, once that's done there's little else to do.

In the end, you may be right, some people will have bought new accounts and rafed them up, people imo will stay perma banned in hope they rejoin when wod comes but i for one wont, i think it came to more playing out of habit and only a small part of enjoyment.

Whoever countinues to play and still enjoys it, good luck to you and sorry about my rant :P

[Thomja]

I honestly think it was a pretty big mistake on blizzards part perma banning people, the game isn't as big as it once was and has been flagging for most people for quite awhile. Take my first ever ban for luaninja, the game was buzzing back then, i was honestly gutted about my losing my account back then even though it was pretty crap and could be remade in a few weeks, which i did. Fast forward to now, i was a few achievements off 20k, many mounts and i know if i merged another account to my battlenet i could access everything apart from the 90s i lost but i wont, why?

The game just isn't gripping anymore, theres no immersion, the quests ingame are just utter crap, its literally a to b and back with some dialogue from an npc you've never seen in your time playing and probably will never see again. Pvp is utter trash, classes just mongoloiding their way to high rating with ease whilst other specs get smashed to smithereens, cc is out of control, you spend more time in stuns/cc than you do actually playing your character, paired with the fact that some rng crits could mean you die in a few seconds with no chance to react. Rbg wintraders hold the top of the ladders, they'll get their rewards at the season also, like they did 2 seasons ago and blizz allow it to happen, pretty much giving the green light to people to do it as there is a minimal chance you'll be punished.

Content patchs these-days are terrible, we either get dailies or that crappy isle which was fun for the first week and we're expected to sit on our hands for the next 6+month and enjoy logging in every wednesday, clearing our stuff then awaiting the week after. Its basically became a game of resets, once that's done there's little else to do.

In the end, you may be right, some people will have bought new accounts and rafed them up, people imo will stay perma banned in hope they rejoin when wod comes but i for one wont, i think it came to more playing out of habit and only a small part of enjoyment.

Whoever countinues to play and still enjoys it, good luck to you and sorry about my rant :P

Thanks for you opinion +5 I agree completely.

[TheNationGaming]

I honestly think it was a pretty big mistake on blizzards part perma banning people, the game isn't as big as it once was and has been flagging for most people for quite awhile. Take my first ever ban for luaninja, the game was buzzing back then, i was honestly gutted about my losing my account back then even though it was pretty crap and could be remade in a few weeks, which i did. Fast forward to now, i was a few achievements off 20k, many mounts and i know if i merged another account to my battlenet i could access everything apart from the 90s i lost but i wont, why?

The game just isn't gripping anymore, theres no immersion, the quests ingame are just utter crap, its literally a to b and back with some dialogue from an npc you've never seen in your time playing and probably will never see again. Pvp is utter trash, classes just mongoloiding their way to high rating with ease whilst other specs get smashed to smithereens, cc is out of control, you spend more time in stuns/cc than you do actually playing your character, paired with the fact that some rng crits could mean you die in a few seconds with no chance to react. Rbg wintraders hold the top of the ladders, they'll get their rewards at the season also, like they did 2 seasons ago and blizz allow it to happen, pretty much giving the green light to people to do it as there is a minimal chance you'll be punished.

Content patchs these-days are terrible, we either get dailies or that crappy isle which was fun for the first week and we're expected to sit on our hands for the next 6+month and enjoy logging in every wednesday, clearing our stuff then awaiting the week after. Its basically became a game of resets, once that's done there's little else to do.

In the end, you may be right, some people will have bought new accounts and rafed them up, people imo will stay perma banned in hope they rejoin when wod comes but i for one wont, i think it came to more playing out of habit and only a small part of enjoyment.

Whoever countinues to play and still enjoys it, good luck to you and sorry about my rant :P

Its not a big mistake, well they do lose money but they still get rid of the cheaters atleast (step in the right direction)
I used PQR previously and it takes away the whole reward of even knowing your class

6-7 Million subscribers is still enough to go for a long time, obviously its not what it was at the peak of the MMO era

this "immersion" is gone because you are no longer a new player, I know plenty of new people who scream like little noobs when they see something new
I can agree pvp is pretty crap due to the cheaters and some very bad balance issues for some classes.

I always find stuff to do all week. Mount runs/transmog runs for alts and carrying people for pvp gear for gold
Content patches are fine, I wish they added more hubs like isle of quel'danas with much more rewards like mounts or even tmog gear

[Snowee]

A month ago I was reading over the pqr forums and decided "its time for a bit of a Christmas present" so I decompiled pqr, and sent it along with a detection method to blizzard. I'm not sure if this is the cause of all the bans, and I'm not sure if it even did anything, because i got the blizzard standard "we are working on it", But I'm satisfied with the outcome.

I continue to use my private coding. And all of you can either play like manual noobs, or quit.

Gg ownedcore. I always win.

[Hill]

A month ago I was reading over the pqr forums and decided "its time for a bit of a Christmas present" so I decompiled pqr, and sent it along with a detection method to blizzard. I'm not sure if this is the cause of all the bans, and I'm not sure if it even did anything, because i got the blizzard standard "we are working on it", But I'm satisfied with the outcome.

I continue to use my private coding. And all of you can either play like manual noobs, or quit.

Gg ownedcore. I always win.

Orgasm live !

[nazgul111]

I honestly think it was a pretty big mistake on blizzards part perma banning people, the game isn't as big as it once was and has been flagging for most people for quite awhile. Take my first ever ban for luaninja, the game was buzzing back then, i was honestly gutted about my losing my account back then even though it was pretty crap and could be remade in a few weeks, which i did. Fast forward to now, i was a few achievements off 20k, many mounts and i know if i merged another account to my battlenet i could access everything apart from the 90s i lost but i wont, why?

The game just isn't gripping anymore, theres no immersion, the quests ingame are just utter crap, its literally a to b and back with some dialogue from an npc you've never seen in your time playing and probably will never see again. Pvp is utter trash, classes just mongoloiding their way to high rating with ease whilst other specs get smashed to smithereens, cc is out of control, you spend more time in stuns/cc than you do actually playing your character, paired with the fact that some rng crits could mean you die in a few seconds with no chance to react. Rbg wintraders hold the top of the ladders, they'll get their rewards at the season also, like they did 2 seasons ago and blizz allow it to happen, pretty much giving the green light to people to do it as there is a minimal chance you'll be punished.

Content patchs these-days are terrible, we either get dailies or that crappy isle which was fun for the first week and we're expected to sit on our hands for the next 6+month and enjoy logging in every wednesday, clearing our stuff then awaiting the week after. Its basically became a game of resets, once that's done there's little else to do.

In the end, you may be right, some people will have bought new accounts and rafed them up, people imo will stay perma banned in hope they rejoin when wod comes but i for one wont, i think it came to more playing out of habit and only a small part of enjoyment.

Whoever countinues to play and still enjoys it, good luck to you and sorry about my rant :P

well i partly agree with some of your point, but the thing is i have an awesome guild that i wish to play with, if i wont be able to recover my account from perma ban i will just create a new one and pay those greedy bastards at blizzard again

[Bsmunban]

Could simply be Blizzard's January clean out yet again. If you recall last year the dupe exploit that went out on a mass scale. Understandably that could have just been a generally coincidental time for the exploit to have been publicized but either way Blizzard obviously made an example of people having absolutely no remorse with their bans. But I do agree that ban waves such as this one are counter-productive for a dying game like WoW.