Insane attack power for tanks

[xHearts]

Doesn't seem to work too well as a Prot Paladin

[e] Just checking, you guys are queuing for BGs as tanks, correct? I've been queuing DPS/tank and I'm always forced into Ret when I join the BG and have to switch inside. Does that even matter?

I feel like I'm taking the same amount of damage as everyone else, even with nearly all my pieces having BA.

[Honor777]

Doesn't seem to work too well as a Prot Paladin

[e] Just checking, you guys are queuing for BGs as tanks, correct? I've been queuing DPS/tank and I'm always forced into Ret when I join the BG and have to switch inside. Does that even matter?

I feel like I'm taking the same amount of damage as everyone else, even with nearly all my pieces having BA.

Yea I've been running a lot with my prot pally and feel pretty squishy even against mellee. I've tried to get as much stam where I can (enchants) what you make up for vs my wifes prot war I run with who can take a beating is you can heal damn near as good as any healer. I run selfless healer and can keep myself up pretty well even when im getting crushed. Eternal flames HoT might work really well too to counter the damage intake and smooth things out.

Anyways ive played all tanks now with stacking BA and would say pally is second to monks and thats just because monks are ridiculous and not even fun op. Just be prepared to heal a lot as prot pally.

[Alfalfa]

I'm always forced into Ret when I join the BG and have to switch inside. Does that even matter?

Just queue as Tank. Queue times for bgs are not affected by chosen role.

[powerflex]

I've got a DK in full BA gear - anyone want to team up to run some face melters?

PM me if you're BA geared up and know how to play well.

[xHearts]

Yea I've been running a lot with my prot pally and feel pretty squishy even against mellee. I've tried to get as much stam where I can (enchants) what you make up for vs my wifes prot war I run with who can take a beating is you can heal damn near as good as any healer. I run selfless healer and can keep myself up pretty well even when im getting crushed. Eternal flames HoT might work really well too to counter the damage intake and smooth things out.

Anyways ive played all tanks now with stacking BA and would say pally is second to monks and thats just because monks are ridiculous and not even fun op. Just be prepared to heal a lot as prot pally.

Ah, completely forgot about enchants. Getting some extra stamina should help with survivability. I'll try Selfless Healer as well, since I've been mostly running Eternal Flame.

Just queue as Tank. Queue times for bgs are not affected by chosen role.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I had a crazy feeling I was getting longer queue times when I queued as Tank only as opposed to Tank/DPS.

[webbym]

Pala Tank is the absolut strongest Tank on 80-89 Pvp !. 90-99 Feels weaker but still around 3x Dmg.

[advanta]

Pala Tank is the absolut strongest Tank on 80-89 Pvp !. 90-99 Feels weaker but still around 3x Dmg.

90-99 some people will have >590 gear. There's also draenor perks which are a significant advantage. That said, I'm usually top dps and can
take on virtually any number of melee fighters.

[powerflex]

There's also draenor perks which are a significant advantage.

Mind sharing which perks specifically?

I am usually anywhere between 3 to 7x the damage of everyone else as a blood DK in the 90 to 99 bracket.

I'm also using tuan's premium DK routine for HB which is pretty damn good for survival and DPS as a DK.

When I have a ghoul up, I almost feel guilty because of how quickly I destroy people.

My DK is 93, is there a better level to be in the 90's with significant improvement to DPS or viability?

[advanta]

Mind sharing which perks specifically?

I am usually anywhere between 3 to 7x the damage of everyone else as a blood DK in the 90 to 99 bracket.

I'm also using tuan's premium DK routine for HB which is pretty damn good for survival and DPS as a DK.

When I have a ghoul up, I almost feel guilty because of how quickly I destroy people.

My DK is 93, is there a better level to be in the 90's with significant improvement to DPS or viability?

All the perks are worth something. I found the reduced cooldown on deathgrip very beneficial-you can't really die
unless there's nothing to hit with deathstrike and this perk noticeably increases your survivability and overall
dps. But you really want them all, so 98 is best for that.

It sounds like you take pvp way more seriously than I do. I would say this though: the mechablast rockets are
way op at the moment and can be picked up in bulk cheaply on my dead server. They really help.

[powerflex]

I wouldn't say "way", but I do like to pvp.

Saw a warrior today, fury, wasn't using any of the bonus armor stuff but had a crafted weapon fully upgraded 3/3 and an armor piece also fully upgraded to 3/3 and he actually just barley out DPS'd me. That's saying a lot because no one ever typically comes very close, even other people using BA exploit.

I'm starting to wonder if I should put down my gargoyles bite and try upgrading a crafted weapon to 3/3. Only problem is that they're so damned expensive and if it doesn't end up making too big of a difference, I'll have wasted like 50 / 60k plat

[bl4ckg4m3]

A Tauren Warrior?

[advanta]

I wouldn't say "way", but I do like to pvp.

Saw a warrior today, fury, wasn't using any of the bonus armor stuff but had a crafted weapon fully upgraded 3/3 and an armor piece also fully upgraded to 3/3 and he actually just barley out DPS'd me. That's saying a lot because no one ever typically comes very close, even other people using BA exploit.

I'm starting to wonder if I should put down my gargoyles bite and try upgrading a crafted weapon to 3/3. Only problem is that they're so damned expensive and if it doesn't end up making too big of a difference, I'll have wasted like 50 / 60k plat

I think in terms of dps it wouldn't help that much and may actually hurt a little based on standard theorycrafting analysis. Difficult to say for certain because the value of a stat like stamina is disproportionately valuable to BA-set users. (Do you get grief for this in bg's? "Hey noob your gear sucks", "you have the lowest hp here".etc)

What I'm less sure about is the helm: there's a meta gem which gives you 2% bonus to armor items. That wouldn't compensate for the low level items superior bonus armor but there's an additional chunk of stamina on the the gem. Obviously a >600 item will have a ton of other stats. My guess is these would be superior overall to the steel helm I'm using.

About getting out-dps'ed. It will happen occassionally. A lot of what happens in a bg is just random. Simply not having a concentration of enemies around really cuts down on dps. Some times cheesing strategies which aren't really that useful create stupid dps which doesn't mean anything. A while back I just used to aoe kobolds in AV just to create top dps, but obviously this is a complete waste of time.

[powerflex]

What I'm less sure about is the helm: there's a meta gem which gives you 2% bonus to armor items. That wouldn't compensate for the low level items superior bonus armor but there's an additional chunk of stamina on the the gem. Obviously a >600 item will have a ton of other stats. My guess is these would be superior overall to the steel helm I'm using.

Ya, normal armor has no effect on your AP, it's only bonus armor that gives you that increase. So the 2% from the meta gem or the 4% from the Rune Forge both have zero impact on AP, I've tested it.

A Tauren Warrior?

Yes.... that you?

[powerflex]

Can someone richer than myself, buy a Blacksmith weapon, fully upgrade it and tell us the difference it has over Garg's bite? hehe

[c172]

I kept my sub up just for the 70-99 pvp, hope this isnt fixed I dont mind leveling and paying just for the lower end PVP like this (can never commit to a proper geared 100 but have enough time for this, it's pick up and own fun).