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    Ragnis's Avatar Active Member
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    hierlooms scaling at 85

    discovered today that the my hierlooms are doing almost as much as the Baradin's wardens sword

    Arcanite reaper vs sword:



    in main hand:



    Raging blow with Reaper and truesilver champion(no cata weapons equipped:



    almost 50k with hierlooms which should not be hitting nearly that hard

    Cheers!
    Last edited by Ragnis; 01-29-2011 at 07:47 PM.

    hierlooms scaling at 85
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    Thats some leet dps youre doing right there

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    Originally Posted by danbirk View Post
    Thats some leet dps youre doing right there
    hah! i also just noticed that the truesilver champion gives 208 resil at 85 and is a very good starting weapon for pvp

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    It's a good thing that fury warriors aint OP atleast...

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    +rep for that damage dude I actually felt myself entertained by that.

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    It seems that it does damage nearly as a 346 item

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    Originally Posted by phorentez View Post
    +rep for that damage dude I actually felt myself entertained by that.

    lol i hope thats a compliment, thanks

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    I can confirm this..

    My bloodied arcanite reaper does like 300+++ more damage and using it looses 500 AP over my current. Just insane

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    Note that hes using death wish plus inner rage to make his numbers seem better than they actually are.

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    Ragnis's Avatar Active Member
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    Originally Posted by Blehmeh View Post
    Note that hes using death wish plus inner rage to make his numbers seem better than they actually are.
    well yeah i used my burst macro, but its pretty similar numbers to cata weapons with the same macro.

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    Show us the weapon tooltip. Not to sound picky but you could have easily model edited one of your weapons and i was under the impression that heirlooms were hard locked at lvl 80 so they didn't scale past that.

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    I can confirm this does not work.
    Equipping the Bloodied Arcanite Reaper over Armagedillo's Tail @ 82 results in my DPS going from 973.0 -> 861.1 (on the character screen), and my AP drops by ~400 ish.

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    They're not supposed to scale, that's the point. But you can USE them after 80, just without the scaling or exp benefits.
    However, it's been posted before that someone got his... resil. trinket(?) to scale and he wasn't sure how, so it wouldn't surprise me if some heirlooms were just scaling for absolutely no reason, if not all of them.

    However, I distinctly remember the tooltip on the the heirloom was as it should be(reading level 80 stats), but the stats he ACTUALLY gained were consistent with level 85 gear.

    EDIT: I should look before I post- http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-...0-scaling.html
    It's indeed a weapon, and provably scales with SP.
    Last edited by Janube; 01-30-2011 at 01:47 AM.

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    Originally Posted by Vixxi View Post
    Show us the weapon tooltip. Not to sound picky but you could have easily model edited one of your weapons and i was under the impression that heirlooms were hard locked at lvl 80 so they didn't scale past that.
    They are locked at 80. I'm going to do the math here though.

    In protection spec with defense stance (Zero damage modifiers) with no haste gear, I have 3403 AP (Increases dps by 243.1). I have an epic 2H with 623.4 DPS. My tooltip DPS under the Melee tab in my character sheet shows 866.4 DPS. 866.4 DPS - 243.1 DPS from AP = 623.3 Weapon DPS. A little off, but it's probably a rounding error. Ok, so that's our baseline. Lets switch to the heirloom.

    2857 total attack power increases DPS by 204.1. My tooltip DPS is 693.1. Weapon DPS is 156. 693.1 DPS - 204.1 DPS from AP = 489 Weapon DPS, an additional 333 DPS on top of the weapon's tooltip. 489 weapon dps is similar to an ilvl 333 blue weapon, so in other words, it's lacking in stats, but it's free. It would be in your best interest to use a blue weapon drop though, because the stats are better.

    Fake edit: I went completely naked with no buffs. The stat gain from the bloodied arcanite reaper is still 68 strength and 103 stam, but the crit rating gained is 267 at 85. It would seem secondary stats continue to scale after 80. I made sure to drink a mastery elixir and click it off to reset any 'extra' stats gained through the reforging glitch.

    ---------- Post added at 01:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:00 AM ----------

    Originally Posted by DeathComesForU View Post
    I can confirm this does not work.
    Equipping the Bloodied Arcanite Reaper over Armagedillo's Tail @ 82 results in my DPS going from 973.0 -> 861.1 (on the character screen), and my AP drops by ~400 ish.
    Try going in a spec/stance that doesn't increase your damage done by a percent and go naked, take off all haste buffs, then compare. Make sure you do the math of Total DPS MINUS DPS gained from Attack power = Weapon DPS. You might need to do extra math to account for haste on your weapon if your weapon has haste.

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    Also using a level 80 dummy! Tsk Tsk...

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