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    Whoa, that's a pretty incredible find there. You should move that topic or something so that it stays secret longer.

    [Mage] Kill ANY enemy
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    Move to elite, this thread is epic.

    Nomination from me and +4 rep.
    Richard rules!

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    Should be moved to elite imo, your already a contributor, you would be able to look at it and post on it.. Repped twice, and nominated..

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    Originally Posted by ZOMG View Post
    Also, the damage done isn't multiplying like the OP says. I got a stack of 5 on an elite mob in the dungeon, and it was only ticking for 14k. I have about 2000 SP.


    I think I found the correct math application though. Each time it stacks, it double, the application, not your SP, then your SP gets added on the top, not multiplied. This
    Example.

    Stack 1 450
    Stack 2 900
    Stack 3 1800
    Stack 4 3600
    Stack 5 7200
    Etc.
    I blacked it out because I couldn't explain it correctly. Fortunelty, being the smart person I am, I look at the numbers.

    1 stack = 3174 with 2724 spell power.

    Stacks with spell power, plus base.

    So, instead of (450)(SpellPower)(X) its (450+SpellPower)(X)

    Instead of 135,000,000 for 99 stacks its 3,000,000 damage with 99 stacks. A little lower but since it does the damage almost every second its still enough to down Yogg+0, all of ICC, and Alganon Hard Mode all at once while in Iceblock. Yes, its lower, but its still enough to do the job with a few million overkill.

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    DID NOT WORK.

    The buff you steal doesnt stack... you get a single buff. The debuff it applies stacks each time you get hit. Good luck getting hit 99 times by anything that would make this useful.

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    Originally Posted by Meloku View Post
    DID NOT WORK.

    The buff you steal doesnt stack... you get a single buff. The debuff it applies stacks each time you get hit. Good luck getting hit 99 times by anything that would make this useful.
    That's not how the buff works. It's explained on page 2 I believe. Only one spell steal is necessary.

    Edit: Oops, didn't read your whole post. Yeah, that's how it works.
    Last edited by Bossqwerty; 12-29-2009 at 05:24 PM.

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    Originally Posted by hp94 View Post
    I blacked it out because I couldn't explain it correctly. Fortunelty, being the smart person I am, I look at the numbers.

    1 stack = 3174 with 2724 spell power.

    Stacks with spell power, plus base.

    So, instead of (450)(SpellPower)(X) its (450+SpellPower)(X)

    Instead of 135,000,000 for 99 stacks its 3,000,000 damage with 99 stacks. A little lower but since it does the damage almost every second its still enough to down Yogg+0, all of ICC, and Alganon Hard Mode all at once while in Iceblock. Yes, its lower, but its still enough to do the job with a few million overkill.
    There ya go, that formula is also confirmed by my testing.

    (450+SpellPower)(X) = DP/tick


    However, there are so many issues in trying to make full use of it, sadly.

    The highest PER TICK you could realisitically get it probably in the ~340,000 damage range. For as smart of a person as you claim............your math is horrible up there. You can't get 3 million per tick, a mage with 3000SP would cap out at around 350k per tick. This is assuming you could actually get something to hit you 99 times, while you stay alive, and it didn't die. It's not every second either, or "almost", it's every 3 seconds.......it's a nice exploit, but you are really falsely claiming the effects.
    Last edited by ZOMG; 12-29-2009 at 05:32 PM. Reason: Clarification

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    Originally Posted by Meloku View Post
    Good luck getting hit 99 times by anything that would make this useful.
    Thats the issue at hand now

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    Originally Posted by ZOMG View Post
    There ya go, that formula is also confirmed by my testing.

    (450+SpellPower)(X) = DP/tick
    Well thats what I get for doing all the math in my head =(

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    This would work best on Algalon if you could get the summons in time and remain with the buff. He hits FAST so I assume he would stack up the dot real quick.

    The problem is, if you Iceblock, everyone else is already in combat so I assume they will attack something else.

    If they all stay max range, it's possible that w/e boss you're on will just attack you, but i dunno.


    My issue with this find is that it's extremely limited use (as many spellsteal exploits are [like the original way to nuke Anub in H AN])
    And even more so since it requires the mage to continually get hit.

    If there is a boss that constantly cleaves, this could work, but it would have to be like his/her normal attack is a cleave and hits a lot, else it would be futile.



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    Originally Posted by ßetray View Post
    This would work best on Algalon if you could get the summons in time and remain with the buff. He hits FAST so I assume he would stack up the dot real quick.

    The problem is, if you Iceblock, everyone else is already in combat so I assume they will attack something else.

    If they all stay max range, it's possible that w/e boss you're on will just attack you, but i dunno.
    Thats why you duo/solo it =). If you didn't everyone else would have to stay outside the agro radius, or feign death etc.

    And I love the PvP Applications - 10 stacks does 30000 damage on average - go kill a bunch of people at the start of WSG or Eye of the Storm - imagine getting attacked while you have the flag =)

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    Remove your name dude! ! !>.< +Rep not gonna use, but awesome find.
    Last edited by Vinland; 12-29-2009 at 06:07 PM.


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    Originally Posted by Vinland View Post
    Remove your name dude! ! !>.<
    I was going to but never ended up actually doing it =(

    I just blacked out some unimportant things - but its ok. It's just spell steal - blizzard won't do anything against you if you just cast a spell they let everyone have =).

    EDIT: I just went into the instance, and left the group. I got saved even though I wasn't in the group when the boss was downed, and I got an emblem of triumph for some reason. What I did was got the buff, aggro'd Thrall, and iceblocked. It pulled all the gaurds, and all the gaurds died at 4 stacks, and I killed a pally lol =). Thrall killed me quickly after iceblock. Soloing it would be too difficult -I'd suggest a healer to go along with you for world bosses. Their damage is laughable with any healer, and you can keep the buff up indefinately.

    Picture of a few tries of dropping into org with the buff =). I popped mirror images while in iceblock (BIG MISTAKE), so they only got 1-2 hits on me before iceblock ended.

    http://s291.photobucket.com/albums/l...5.jpg&newest=1
    Last edited by hp94; 12-30-2009 at 01:23 AM. Reason: Pic added

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    Originally Posted by hp94 View Post
    I was going to but never ended up actually doing it =(

    I just blacked out some unimportant things - but its ok. It's just spell steal - blizzard won't do anything against you if you just cast a spell they let everyone have =).

    EDIT: I just went into the instance, and left the group. I got saved even though I wasn't in the group when the boss was downed, and I got an emblem of triumph for some reason. What I did was got the buff, aggro'd Thrall, and iceblocked. It pulled all the gaurds, and all the gaurds died at 4 stacks, and I killed a pally lol =). Thrall killed me quickly after iceblock. Soloing it would be too difficult -I'd suggest a healer to go along with you for world bosses. Their damage is laughable with any healer, and you can keep the buff up indefinately.
    They do, it's an exploit and a regular brain know it's a bug and know you're not supposed to run around, having a Fire Shield dealing ~44k damage : P


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    Nice idea!

    I would +rep, but I'm new and have no rep of my own, and I need five posts to start a thread anyway.

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