[Research] 1.12.1 Emu Servers

[Gastricpenguin]

I have begun my work on fixing and creating new areas in the old wow. Here is a short video of the noggit I use

http://www.mydeo.com/videorequest.as...380&CID=261337

[Abstraction]

How do I downgrade from 3.1.0 to 1.12?

[Gastricpenguin]

How do I downgrade from 3.1.0 to 1.12?

Reinstall the game.

[Abstraction]

Oh **** that.... then it would take forever to upgrade to Wrath..... what If I want to go back to 3.1, can't I make a new folder with WoW and just patch 1.12? Or something along those lines.

[Gastricpenguin]

Sure can. Takes no time at all aswell. Just rename your old wow folder and then insert the discs

[CoolManBob]

You've got an Ascent-based one? Great! I didn't even know it was out at the time. Since none of the repacks posted so far use it, this will be a first.

The one I had was not ascent; Ascent was not around at this time; I am using a WoWd derived base though, im using an old version of CrFusion which was updated from the luddmilla leak at the time, which that itself is based on WoWd

[[Shon3m]]

try n find antrix for 1.12.1 i think its the most stable emu at 1.12.1 just search teh interwebs

[azoe]

CoolManBob I have send you a PM about source of WOWD for 1.12.x. You can ignore this as I have found what I was looking for. But if you would like to team up with me and my friends just let me know

GL & HF

[DracoLichKing]

Well, the person who posted above me said they had an Ascent for 1.12.1. Though maybe they were they saying they're going to alter it for 1.12.1 (that would be difficult). Guess I'll stick with tweaking my Mangos-based one for now then. Now, theoretically, it would be possible to add the BC content to the 1.12.1 game right? The reason I ask is because the original 1.12.1 game comes across as something that's half finished.

I'd really like to see them find a way to customize WoW+TBC because as I said, TBC is practically the second half of the original game, not a mere expansion like WotLK is. This is not like playing Sonic 3 without Sonic & Knuckles. Though technically that's the wrong way to play Sonic 3, you'll never notice the levels they cut out if you leave S&K off (assuming you've never played it with it). When you play WoW without BC though, things are just noticeably missing, and they would be for even a first-time player. Which is why I say it would be better if we had a complete game world, like WoW with BC, to customize. And that's why I say BC 2.4.3 is the true classic version of the game. It's a complete game world and is obviously how the game was originally designed. They split it up and sold BC as a so-called "expansion" (when it's actually the "completion") just to make more money.

To give some examples of the problems you're headed for trying to mod the original game without BC, you either have to put something in that area above Eastern Plaguelands or cut it off of the continent completely if you want to create the illusion that the game is complete. You have to either create the entire Outlands area or delete the portal. You have to create an interior for Karazhan and quests for it because Deadwind Pass is landlocked and can't just be chopped off like the northern areas of the Eastern Kingdoms. The modder has to either add content for or chop off everything that was withheld from the original game or the game is going to look incomplete, because the original game world looked (and was) as incomplete as Disney World the first year it was open.

These issues aside, I'm still looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

As for the installation thing, I have all three versions of WoW installed. I renamed my initial World of Warcraft folder I had to "World of Warcraft BC" since I was running 2.4.3 at the time and planning to keep it for private server play. Then I made a copy of the folder and renamed the copy to "World of Warcraft LK" and ran the wow.exe in that folder then hit the escape key to back out and installed WotLK. Then when I found this, I temporarily renamed the LK folder so I could install the original client and patch it to 1.12.1 without messing up my WotLK install. I've since renamed it back. So, I have 1.12.1 enGB in the "D:\games\World of Warcraft" folder, BC 2.4.3 enUS in the "D:\games\World of Warcraft BC" folder, and WotLK 3.1.0 enUS in the "D:\games\World of Warcraft LK" folder. Keep in mind if you do this, if you go to extract new maps or something, it's a good idea to run then exit wow.exe for the version you're trying to extract for first, to make sure the extractor finds the right version. Oh yeah, I put them on the data partition because they're not registry-dependent. You can run them after a reformat and they play just fine so there's no need to reinstall them just because your Windows takes a dive.

[Ziddy1337]

Did somebody say epic?

1.12 torrent and patch! (Hosted by me)

Client Torrent:

http://www.rawunleashed.co.uk/downlo...oW.rar.torrent
(You will need Limewire or uTorrent to download)

Patch GB:

http://www.rawunleashed.co.uk/downlo....12.1-enGB.exe

Patch US:

http://www.rawunleashed.co.uk/downlo....12.1-enUS.exe

Note: I am unsure if this is the enGB or enUS client, so i included both patches.

[Lord Vago]

I have been playing live wow since 3-05 and the original was much better and interesting to me, the pvp was much better (shamans rocked! (google Unbreakable video)) then the new talent trees came out and made the shaman pretty much a healbot and I stopped playing him, they have never achieved their true greatness since (biased I know). The other thing is the old emulators were really buggy, pets especially, I don't know how to program but i am interested in learning how to script for a good 1.12.1. I was bored with WOTLK after 2 months and BC always sucked. The issue of the game not seeming complete because of the portal and such was always interesting but not as important ans trying to get your guild ready for Naxx and AQ 40. 80s still have trouble with AQ 40 in live WoW (percentage based damage 10% every 10 sec for example). Having BC content would ruin most of the level 60 content the quest greens are almost as good as the Naxx epics.

I have been talking to friends about a private Vanilla server for a few weeks and really would like to see this happen, Blizz will never support it. So I am off to the dev pages to see how it's done and see if there is anything I can contribute.

[azoe]

DracoLichKing its emu for 1.12.1 but its not Ascent, Ascent came from this emu. Hopefully i have found some data i needed to use in our fork of MANGOS. Why not use WOWD and not expand it to make all work ? TrinityCore is in my belive best emu out here, its created out of MANGOS, and its very easy to port TC stuff back to old mangos Hopefully with not much work soon we will get emu with ready database, scripts and most talents and skills working. Emu for 1.12.1 will never evolwe and everything can be nicely hardcoded

Im also missing old days. I played wow from alpha leak times, then I was in all betas (US,EN,KR) and then played from day 1. I left offie after some time after TBC came out. Now its game only for kids im my belive, back then it was for kids and hardcore players too

[DracoLichKing]

There you go, just rename your folder, grab Ziddy's release, install it, patch to 1.12.1 and you've got both installed. Or if you prefer you could actually install the entire game (repack included) to an 8 GB stick drive (it will fit). I'm actually considering putting my BC (with a repack) on a 16 GB stick drive. I'd like to do it with WotLK but it's become too big now.

I'm not saying we should necessarily make it full BC. I'd like to see at least Silvermoon City and Karazhan though. You could remove the portal and we could forget about Illidan I guess (I still think it would be more fun to find a way to put Outland in though). I'm not saying we should nerf the Shammy or change items. We should leave the classes as they are, or maybe figure out which specification worked best and go with that. Maybe 1.12.1 was better for Shammy, maybe 2.4.3 was better for Warlock, for example. Since I didn't start playing until BC was out, maybe I'm biased. What I'm saying more than anything though, is that we need to make changes that cause the world to look complete, even if it's not. Simply put, let's cover the holes.

I would like to see a complete BC 2.4.3 server eventually though, because for me that's the original and complete game. Maybe we could change the Shammy specs in the 2.4.3 server back to the 1.12.1 specs if need be, for the sake of character balancing. And possibly some of the other things 1.12.1 did better could be used. I'm not saying either the 1.12.1 server or the 2.4.3 server has to STAY pure 1.12.1 or pure 2.4.3 though. They should START that way for the sake of historic preservation, but include patches that integrate the best of the other versions, because they all had their hits and misses apparently. Being able to customize this way would each persons server more unique, and it's the customization that gives people a reason to join YOUR server after all.

[Abstraction]

This thread is like a fly attractor, but instead its a leecher attractor.

[Gastricpenguin]

This thread is like a fly attractor, but instead its a leecher attractor.

That has nothing to do with this topic. Keep the de-railment to yourself.