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    [Question] Regarding BOT Programming in general...

    Hello guys,

    I'm new to BOT programming.
    I'm playing WoW and I'm trying to develop a BOT so I can leave my toons playing while I'm at work.
    I have a lot of ideas for my BOT, but I still don't have the skills to implement it.
    I'm trying to learn it and I would like to have some advices from you.
    I know that I must know a programming language. I know C++ and I can learn C# too.
    I know I have to know Win32 API. I programmed some games in the past, so I know something about Win32 API.
    I know I need to be able to develop a GUI, so I can make my BOT easy to use. I would use C# for this.
    For some automatic stuff I know I have to learn Artificial Intelligence.
    For some more auto stuff, some features on scripting would be nice too.
    Now I will start to reach the hole in my knowledge.
    From this point, I will need your help to learn.
    It's hard to find organized stuff in the web, but anyways...
    Can I ask some stuff here about BOT Programming so I can organize my studying?
    First of all, how can I discover what is going on in WoW?
    Is image reconigtion a good approach to do it?
    Can warden detect image recognition software?
    Is it better to find out what is going on through memory reading?
    Is it safe to only read memory in WoW without injecting code?

    [Question] Regarding BOT Programming in general...
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    Just read the memory. Don't bother with image recognition. It's faster as well.

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    Ok, it's faster, but is it safer? Can warden find out that I'm reading game memory?

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    Sure it *could*, but it doesn't. And won't, ever.

    Also, whats with the capital BOT?

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    Omg this has been discussed all week scroll down.

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    Originally Posted by vulcanaoc View Post
    Also, whats with the capital BOT?
    Sorry, it's because my main language isn't English, so I'm used to put "bot" in capital letters, meaning that it is a foreign word. I'll fix it.

    Ok, it's answered. Next question...

    I'm trying to learn Reverse Engineering and ASM... Do I really need to learn this stuff so I can build a bot?

    Does anyone know good books about Reversing and about ASM?

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    Learn to read stickies or get flamed painfully by 14 year old retards who think they are pro hackers because they can read ASM. Have fun with this http://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-me...ookthread.html.
    Last edited by Viano; 07-20-2009 at 03:48 PM.
    Viano

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    Originally Posted by Viano View Post
    Learn to read stickies or get flamed painfully by 14 year old retards who think they are pro hackers because they can read ASM. Have fun with this http://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-me...ookthread.html.
    Thanks for the answer and, yes, my bad, I forgot to do a search in the web site for books in some thread.

    Can I keep asking?

    So, ok, I started to read about reversing on the book: Secrets of Reverse Engineering.

    Thanks for you all!

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    It's a ****ing sticky! How can you miss it???

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    Originally Posted by lanman92 View Post
    It's a ****ing sticky! How can you miss it???
    I was just posting questions here. I asked about memory reading and I got the answer, then at the same time I thought about reversing and all I wanted to do was to ask about books. Then I drop the question. My bad, I should have looked at the sticky before posting. I'll be careful next time.

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    I know I need to be able to develop a GUI, so I can make my BOT easy to use. I would use C# for this.
    If you know C++ I think that would be better. The only reason I use C# is because its the language I'm used to using.

    For some automatic stuff I know I have to learn Artificial Intelligence.
    You don't need to learn much about it here. A well organized and object oriented series of if/then statements has a simple implementation and will probably work a lot better than any really fancy AI system.

    It's hard to find organized stuff in the web, but anyways...
    Screw the web everything is at these forums.

    Can I ask some stuff here about BOT Programming so I can organize my studying?
    People here get mad if you ask things that have already been answered (rightfully so). Make sure to search these forums for answers before asking. As I said I wrote a preety functional bot without having to ask any questions, most of its here.

    First of all, how can I discover what is going on in WoW?
    Read these forums. I was able to write a memory reading and injecting fishbot in about 2 days of browsing these forums. Read Shynd's Memory Modification blog (Google it), that has a lot of useful information and example code to get started with.

    Is image reconigtion a good approach to do it?
    Not really unless its something simple like a fish bot.

    Not really. You would have to do some very complex image scanning to be able to move around and attack things. It would be a lot of work and in the end things will probably work very poorly too.

    Can warden detect image recognition software?
    No not unless it is a known bot program they are looking for (think like virus scanning).

    Is it better to find out what is going on through memory reading?
    Yes it is fast, efficient, and accurate.

    Is it safe to only read memory in WoW without injecting code?

    Preety much, if you don't spread your bot around and only read memory your preety safe.
    U59

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