[PQR Profile] CodeMyLife MoP Paladin Protection/Retribution Rotation.

[CodeMyLife]

Some interesting info there for sure ^^ Must be Grace of Air you're referring to (the shaman mastery-buff)

Of course thanks mate that answers my question! I will release probly tonight after my raid, I will release 1.16 as Beta and let 1.15 as it is. If 1.16 is ok, it will become the "stable version" and I will keep it safe. Then I will always have a beta version and a stable one. I'm human and humans does mistakes and it's sad when it breaks just before a raid so I will try to always keep a stable version in case. The Beta version will be updatable trought Rotation configuration so wont be annoying on users end.

[Apocalypse59]

Another note regarding 5.2 patch

Devotion Aura now clears all silence effects when used.
Divine Protection is now usable while stunned. <== Interesting, should we pop it regardless is we get stunned at a higher HP level? i.e. non-stun 55% and stunned 85%


Prot
Shield of the Righteous now reduces physical damage taken by 25%, down from 30%. <== Interesting, I think this increase T15 2pcs value. What's better now? Blocking 30% on every single melee hits or shielding about 40% on about half of melee hits.


Ret
Sword of Light now increases damage with two-handed melee weapons by 30%, up from 15%. <== Nice ret is buffed!

So basically no changes to code for now but for tanking I would recommend you to use the T15 Buffer that is in the PQI Rotation Configurator!

May the light be with you!

Aye, I agree with you that there shouldn't be any changes to the coding for these changes. SoR will remain better than WoG even with the 5% loss.
Going through ToT right now and honestly I don't even notice the Battle Healer or SoR that much. I think we are still in a very excellent spot still.

One thing I would love to see is adding the AoE toggle to the bottom part of PQI.

Lights Hammer
Pause
Focus
AOE

Etc.

[CodeMyLife]

Aye, I agree with you that there shouldn't be any changes to the coding for these changes. SoR will remain better than WoG even with the 5% loss.
Going through ToT right now and honestly I don't even notice the Battle Healer or SoR that much. I think we are still in a very excellent spot still.

One thing I would love to see is adding the AoE toggle to the bottom part of PQI.

Lights Hammer
Pause
Focus
AOE

Etc.

Actually AoE is a macro ( /aoe ) that you create ingame in you /macro book then place it on any buttong that you like. I could of course integrate a way to use keypress is this is what you mean?

Personally I use the "R" key, it's not far and when im chatting nothing happens!

About the Shield in fact I was speaking of Shield of Glory, not Word of Glory. I was stating that Shield of Glory should be integrated for more sustained shielding. 3 holy power for a 15 seconds buff that gives 40% chances to block (added to the 30ish percents we already have from mastery so lets say we buff to 70%) wich block is actually 30% of incoming melee damage. This however should be used in some way to double shield i.e. lets say our life falls under 50%, SoTR should be prioritized. Otherwise, keeping this buff up as prevention and to smoother damage spikes( always either be shielded or block or both or close to always ). Note that both effects stack with no diminishing returns as block is a chance on roll and shield is direct absorbtion. You can block an incoming hit for 30% and still absorb 40% of the remaining damage.

Shield of Glory // Shield of the Righteous

Both should be used imho. Try it it's in the PQI, the code I have included is: if our HP falls below Shield of Glory PQI value and Shield of Glory PQI is checked then if we have 4HP or more, we cast WoG on the lowest percent HP member. It actually does the job but anyway personally I always keep active healing to save low HP member so.. It's more than often not needed. I set the ShieldofGlory value to 80% of my HP so id does not spam it uselessly if I'm not tanking. Works great so far but might be improved of course!

[Apocalypse59]

No I'd actually like the option to bind AOE in the PQI options to Right Shift, or any other modifier for that matter.

As for the Shield of Glory, I'll have to test it out and let you know what I think.

[CodeMyLife]

Okay Apoc I will add it mate! I will enable both macro and toggle usage for aoe.

I pushed (Master) CodeMyTest wich is the test version 1.16. It's on my SVN right now and rotation updater is include in it. SVN it only if you wanna help testing. For now I think 1.16 should be flawless but I let 1.15 in case anyone is experiencing issues and wanna revert to old version.

The new version holds couples fine-tunings in shield of Glory and The wise auto-buffer. Let me know how these features works well or not. I have let the writetochat enabled for testing purposes so we can know when buffs kicks in. I will remove it in future updates if everything works well.

About the Buffing system, The numbers are not that much relevant to you, it's a simple calculation I do to see what classes(buffs) are in our group and then buff accordingly. pallies = +50, druids and monks are +1 and shamans are +1000 so lets say buffing score is 2152 that mean you have 2 shamans 3 paladins and 2 monks/druids. It's just a way to populate all calsses quickly. the last number is the random timer actually used. I did it to prevent 2 using my profiles to compete on buffing

Happy testing and Light be with you!

[Apocalypse59]

A few things I've noticed after some long testing on the training dummy and tonight's Heroic Iron Qon progression.
There seems to be a few things hurting Shield of the Righteousness up time.

First, Word of Glory still casts in the rotation even when disabled in PQI. It's the coding in the Extras part of the profile that seems to be causing this issue.

Next, the way Sacred Shield is coded it seems to be casting when we have nothing else to cast. This seems to happen roughly anywhere from every 7 to 10 seconds.
Theoretically, with the right amount of haste we should always be able to cast something that generates Holy Power.
What seems to be happening is that Sacred Shield will refresh even when Crusader Strike, Judgement, or Hammer of the Righteous are available to be cast.
I know that this will scale differently with deferring haste levels.
Watching carefully you can tell this is cutting directly into your Shield of the Righteousness overtime and Holy Power generation.
The rotation runs extremely smooth and then it hits the current Sacred Shield refresh and you can see that it interferes directly with the flow of the GCD(Global Cool Down).
Essentially one SS refresh can cause the loss of upwards of roughly 1-2 Holy Power. Depending on timing, latency, and current haste levels.

I'd love to see some fine tuning to the coding to keep a much higher up time on Shield of the Righteousness.
The loss of Holy Power throughout the fight, quickly adds up to a very large loss in overall up time.

Right now I'm seeing exactly 39% SoR up time @ 514 w/ 8750 Haste.
This was tested over 30 minutes on the training dummy.
Single Target rotation.
On boss fights it hangs anywhere between 30 and 40%, usually averaging roughly 35%.

I know that my haste is on the lower end of the scale, and that most high end Paladins can run with anywhere from 12,000 to upwards of 18,000 haste rating. Fraggoji for example.
If somehow we can figure out a way for the profile to either scale automatically to haste levels, or input our haste manually to let it calculate towards our rotation that would be incredible.
I'm sure it already does this to some extent, it probably just needs some fine tuning.

Anyways, sorry for the long winded post. But hopefully it's helpful, and with your skill in coding I have no doubt you can make this happen.

[Apocalypse59]

Testing my SoR up time with Avery's Prot Profile.
Exact same gear and talents.
514 Item Level w/ 8750 Haste.
Watching the rotation, and it's almost 100% accurate.
My SoR up time was 58%.
A huge difference.

Though you have to take into account that I don't think his scales SS dynamically.
Instead it actually fits the refresh in at the exact same moment it would be cast for it not to waste a Holy Power.
It seem to have logic built in that if Crusaders Strike, Judgement, or Shield of the Righteous won't be up by the time the GCD comes back up, then SS is cast.
Essentially filling the gap perfectly.

The rotation is spot on for Avery's, but it lacks the customization and features of yours.
Somehow there has to be a sweet spot to compromise between the best of both worlds.
I don't want to lose your lack of features, but I'd still love to see that extremely high SoR up time.
I really think it's going to come down to trial and error and lots of testing.
But I really think a blend of both would be amazing.

[CodeMyLife]

Amazing Apoc that's a very nice test you did there!

Yeah the WoG in Extras might pop sometimes. Usually will use your Bastion and fill you up as its a low HP treshold security for ourself.

-- Word of Glory
if PlayerHP <= 35
  and UnitPower("player", 9) >= 3 or HaveBuff("player", 90174) then
  	CastSpellByName(GetSpellInfo(85673), "player")
end

It's really basic, if your life fall beyond 35% then cast WoG on you.

For the SotR theres no haste management in my profile else than "is the GCD over" of course I tested some scripts to enhance haste but didnt found something perfect so far. Avery's stuff of course seems to have perfect timing. I will se what can be done to this. It's a very nice input mate. Thank You!

I will take a look to this tonight for sure!

Tyvm Apoc!

[Terades313]

Hey ive one question, where do you see your exact SotR Uptie? Like Apo.. 58% is it a addon? Thanks for infos

[Ninjaderp]

Hey ive one question, where do you see your exact SotR Uptie? Like Apo.. 58% is it a addon? Thanks for infos

I would guess you could track that via an addon such as Recount or something else.

[Terades313]

oh yes tanks :P

[CodeMyLife]

I would guess you could track that via an addon such as Recount or something else.

Skada does it nicely, first choice, buff uptime.

Trying averykey right now.... OOM after 45 sec..... Am I having too much haste? I think so... I need Seal of Insight lol The DPS thrown is however way better. I think the codes I'm using to check cooldowns is not working well with latency. I will rewrite it all tomorrow after work. Should not be hard to complete. I however tried this setup this week-end and was a bit sad of how it was working for me but I think something was missing. I'll retry.

Apoc yesterday you tested on 1.16? How was the buffing? I experienced no issues but I'M doing 10 mans and only 1 druide... did not test anything else id like to know how it work in 25 if anyone tried it please report!

Thanks all for your support and reports, it's very very appreciated.

CodeMyLife

[jaxino1982]

With my paladin at level 87 with low haste i have noticed that your profile isn't healing at all... Maybe it's an haste/gear problem? Or profile?

Ofc i have made the macros to activate healing...

[Ninjaderp]

If you have setup the settings for WoG in the PQInterface UI it should use WoG at set HP-threshold If Im not mistaken.
Could you share your talents / glyphs with us?

[CodeMyLife]

New CodeMyTest version 1.17 update online. Update it trought Rotation Editor or svn.

Including following changes

- Smoother rotation. some PQR_AddDpellToDelayList bug there... I found it was hanging the profile.
- Added some abilities check to low priority abilities to enable better holy power regeneration. Thanks and credits to Avery for this idea.
- Fixed on startup lua error related to PQInterface loading too slowly. Now have a check to wait for it.
- Fixed Divine Purpose Shielding, now should make crazy shielding uptime.

There should be way better flow with this update. The bug hang was occuring very often and slowing rotation a lot. Now it's working great at least it's not stopping, abilities are queued efficiently. Might have hard time casting some abilities by hand tought.

As usual let me know how it works for you!! Thanks everyone