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    Originally Posted by ph34rt3hcute1 View Post
    Haha I know all about that, my guild jokingly complains about my aggro generation, raid leader always says, "give tanks a few secs to get aggro before you attack... that's double for you cute."

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    Your response should be the same as mine, "why, so the locks can beat me on the meters....f that man"

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    Lol

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    Ugh, i keep dying on boss fights, but it seems to be averaging out at around 93-95k dps and i'm ilvl 488 stacking mastery with the DOC talent. The one thing I have noticed is the constant spamming of MoW, I am not smart enough to shut that off in raid, what is the best way to keep it from doing that? I am really enjoying it cute.

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    Already have that fixed for next release

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    I could use your guys' help, I have heard that mangle over shred with T15 2pc was better DPS than normal, I have also heard that was stupid. As I have not gotten my 2pc yet could you guys provide feedback regarding this?

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    Wow, we were just talking about that in guild. o.0 odd...I am going to try and test that out over the next couple of days, the other thing I want to test out is crit build with NV vs mastery build. I have mastery now but I feel like I should be doing more dmg.

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    I personally use nv/sotf with mrrobot recommendations, seems to do better DPS in my limited testing.

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    hey guys, @cute, i have that threat issue too when rune and gets a massive rip ticks going, sometimes frustrating but i just back away for a few seconds or ask for a pally salvation damn blizzard for removing our threat drop, we still need it sometimes.

    also, yes once you get 2pc t15 and gear past that point it is better to use mangle instead of shred as a filler in order to get more ferocious bites off and what not, but it honestly is not a big increase, but still use shred during berserk because it hits like a truck and you can spam it

    *using NS, sotf, doc

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    Originally Posted by ph34rt3hcute1 View Post
    I could use your guys' help, I have heard that mangle over shred with T15 2pc was better DPS than normal, I have also heard that was stupid. As I have not gotten my 2pc yet could you guys provide feedback regarding this?

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    Yes, Mangle>Shred with 2 pc. I did some heavy testing both ways using Pong's profile a few weeks back (http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/worl...ml#post2707871 ([PQRotation] Firepong's PQR Profile's Feedback - Comments - Question's?)), and Mangle spam over shred did pull out ahead, by a considerable margin. The Fluid Druid - View topic - Simulationcraft - Feral rotation discussion and script is a post by aggixx on the fluiddruid forums, and he confirms it there. This was about a month ago, so unless something has changed that I am unaware of since then, Mangle takes precedence over Shred in every situation EXCEPT during Berserk.
    Last edited by cukiemunster; 04-25-2013 at 03:22 PM.

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    Also, if you could maximize the NS cooldown to be used in conjunction with Rip application, DoC will pull ahead of NV on single target fights. Fights with any adds at all, NV wins.

    As far as optimizing DoC, if you would hold off using the NS until 4 CP are applied, hit the NS/Healing Touch to get the buff, Rake on the 1st DoC buff, then Rip on the 2nd to get MAX damage out of the DoC buff. This works out PHENOMENALLY at the pull of every fight, since you also usually get your trinket procs at the pull too. I got a screenshot a few weeks ago when everything lined up at the pull, and this is what Rip can do. Keep in mind, this was when I was ~515 ilvl, I am now 523, and just got Rune of Re-Origination, so no telling what it could do now with your profile if coded right!


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    ^^^^^ cukie is correct, pong does have the code already, you might be able to borrow it

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    I already have T15 coded in, I can edit the ns logic.

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    @ cute and all feral friends out there, i reccomend using cactus to do your reforging especially if you have RoRo trinket, The Fluid Druid - View topic - Edgy/Raffy's Official Catus Thread very veryyyyy useful for getting stats as close as they possibly can for 1:1:1

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    I'll definitely look into that when I get off work.

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    Also is there any way to ONLY rake, then apply Rip ASAP when RoRo is procced, over writing the current Rip? That +25000 mastery would make for one Hell of a Rip! Right now it never seems to line up with Rip, so the trinket is almost useless, and its basically our BiS.

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