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    Originally Posted by googlebee View Post
    well its a 1 min 38 sec parse on aoe targets with a prepot - ending around 87k. its decent for 473 tho for sure. it will scale down considerably on single target tho - arcane is best for single target - not aoe.
    Video was to show mad deeps, was want to show the execution of the profile. Using alter time arcane power, gem before alter time for 100% mana during it(this is experimental, until I get testing in to make a call) scorch and arcane missile weaving and arcane barrage at the very end of alter time. only "AoE" occurring was the secondary effect from nether tempest.

    Those numbers are unbuffed and un-hasted, even on a fight like garalon(10 man) I sit around 115-120k DPS.

    Non-gimmick fights like feng I did around 90k with my "meh" gear and that was with the outdated scorch weave(using scorch at 80% mana).

    The common misconception with arcane is that its AoE sucks, that's poor information coming from the mouth of a inexperienced raider that probably doesent understand why they are doing crap DPS and their using arcane explosion. Arcane Explosion is garbage.
    Last edited by Soapbox; 12-19-2012 at 09:00 AM.

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    Originally Posted by Soapbox View Post



    Arcane Explosion while moving? DO you play a mage?

    You have to hit something with arcane explosion to refresh stacks dude.
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    You talked about Blatty earlier. Tough he is a good mage i dont call him the best but anyway
    Can you explain the glyph he uses here ?
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    He might change it before all read it but he has Arcane Explosion glyphed for the extra 5 yard range. I also have it glyphed for the fight with movement and make sure i run inside the range of Arcane Explosion to make sure i refresh the charges before the run out. Its not that many HC fights where you cant run near the boss tbh as arcane but the extra 5 yard is nice so you dont need to hug the boss to much.

    And regarding scorch when AP if you used the mana gem better or even use AM better you never need to scorch when AP tbh.
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    Originally Posted by Gabbz View Post
    You talked about Blatty earlier. Tough he is a good mage i dont call him the best but anyway
    Can you explain the glyph he uses here ?
    Blatty @ Twisting Nether - Community - World of Warcraft
    He might change it before all read it but he has Arcane Explosion glyphed for the extra 5 yard range. I also have it glyphed for the fight with movement and make sure i run inside the range of Arcane Explosion to make sure i refresh the charges before the run out. Its not that many HC fights where you cant run near the boss tbh as arcane but the extra 5 yard is nice so you dont need to hug the boss to much.

    And regarding scorch when AP if you used the mana gem better or even use AM better you never need to scorch when AP tbh.
    Easy answer to the glyph: there are no other glyphs (to include that one) that are mandatory. Who you have low HP mobs in backs of course you aren't going to Tab NT them but there really isn't one fight that you are moving so much that you want will need to AE at 1 second to refresh it, and if there is you are wasting DPS by only scorching for 10+ seconds when you could e cycling ARB (get away on le'shi).

    What you're saying looks "okay" on paper, not good by any account though because in a practical sense it is a DPS hindrance. Maintaining stacks is good for te intent but if you are not casting AB for longer than X period then why are you holding stacks?

    Either way, its a pointless debate as hardly any fight even with movement will you drop stacks, and its prob best you do drop them and use ArB if its a concern as you will be moving for a while (which I have coded in for some bosses )

    And again on AP, the mana gem is being test in different situations, as soon as I find the best result it's what I'll stick with.

    Right now I'm pulling from the best sources (statistically). I'm not saying you info is invalid, I just have more faith(with good reason) in my sources, and as I always say if someone puts something better out I might consider re-thinking my priorities, but as before there really isn't one out...and what I have most Definately works very well.
    Last edited by Soapbox; 12-19-2012 at 11:35 AM.

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    Originally Posted by Soapbox View Post

    What you're saying looks "okay" on paper, not good by any account though because in a practical sense it is a DPS hindrance. Maintaining stacks is good for te intent but if you are not casting AB for longer than X period then why are you holding stacks?

    Either way, its a pointless debate as hardly any fight even with movement will you drop stacks, and its prob best you do drop them and use ArB if its a concern as you will be moving for a while (which I have coded in for some bosses )
    Yes im just talking HC modes not normals. For example Blade lord when you get sucked in or Imperial Zorlok when you avoiding discs,
    Its always a DPS loss to drop stacks. You should avoid it to all costs and tbh it can be avoided on almost all fights using Arcane Explosion.
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    Originally Posted by Gabbz View Post
    Yes im just talking HC modes not normals. For example Blade lord when you get sucked in or Imperial Zorlok when you avoiding discs,
    Its always a DPS loss to drop stacks. You should avoid it to all costs and tbh it can be avoided on almost all fights using Arcane Explosion.
    I can add that as a boss condition then, but on fights like le'shi if I made it as a default t would basically scorch for 15 + seconds. You need to consider the time spent moving which is what I'm talking about. If you are moving for 15+ seconds its a DPS loss as 2 ArBs during that time will make up for the DPS that is lost regaining stacks, know what I'm sayin?

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    Ill mess around with a few of your suggestions and see what comes from it gabbz. Sorry if I'm coming scross rude got my main bot account banned today(had my farmer and shuffle toons on too that was the big mistake should have separated the farmer) gonna wind up costing $200 to replace all that if I can't get it recovered

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    So i added in Arcane explosion, seemed innocent enough. added a range check etc(different ranged depending on glyph) also reverted my changes to mana gem to be used with alter time, i feel it was a waste of mana that could be used. Also removed scorch from being used during Arcane Power.

    I thought about it a bit and it seems good. THe weaving of scorch still remains the same as no matter how you look at it staying above 90% is better than dropping down to 80 and scorching back up. It still flawlessly weaves scorch, AB and arcane missiles into eachother

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    Christmas break finally. Time to pump out more stuff...

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    Is your $10 Christmas special for all your profiles will be available soon?
    Q: When do hunters get to tame druids?
    A: Right after druids get a hunter form.

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    Originally Posted by Hordeglider View Post
    Is your $10 Christmas special for all your profiles will be available soon?
    Good question! i´ll take it

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    Originally Posted by Soapbox View Post
    I will be having a customer appreciation day soon as well as for Christmas I will be giving all donations to a non-profit charity. Any ideas in mind for the charity?
    So, are we still going to see a customer appreciation day any time soon? Christmas is already over so now what? Too bad for those non-profit charities..
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    Originally Posted by Hordeglider View Post
    So, are we still going to see a customer appreciation day any time soon? Christmas is already over so now what? Too bad for those non-profit charities..
    Soapbox had his main account banned due to botting afaik. So he is leveling chars as we speak so give him some time and he brb.
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    I have a problem with my donator profile is there a way to have it only cast spells when mobs get pulled by tank or when you're in combat, cause I pulled a few times by accident by just hovering my mouse pointer over the boss and mobs. Also is there a way to enable and disable cd's. If anyone has the updated donator profile can you msg me.

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    Originally Posted by Hordeglider View Post
    So, are we still going to see a customer appreciation day any time soon? Christmas is already over so now what? Too bad for those non-profit charities..
    Ouch, really?

    I got tied up with stuff that I did not expect. It will happen, just stay tuned...

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    Im going to try the Elite BM Hunter profile you made. Hope it kicks some serious ass

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