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    soap will you be doing a free version of your hunter ? Id quite like to try it

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    I'd love to give the hunter one a go as well if you do it.

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    Originally Posted by Soapbox View Post
    This is ScorchWeave
    Sorry to say but its like the frost mage video you made ...You are missing key DPS in that video....
    I know your coding skillz are good but you need to freshen up on mage skillz !

    For Example where is the Arcane Barrage ?
    Last edited by Gabbz; 12-18-2012 at 05:40 PM.
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    Originally Posted by Gabbz View Post
    Sorry to say but its like the frost mage video you made ...You are missing key DPS in that video....
    I know your coding skillz are good but you need to freshen up on mage skillz !

    For Example where is the Arcane Barrage ?
    Is rough to follow simcraft sometimes. Tbh.

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    Just bought arcane mage profile. Hope its worth it.

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    Originally Posted by Gabbz View Post
    Sorry to say but its like the frost mage video you made ...You are missing key DPS in that video....
    I know your coding skillz are good but you need to freshen up on mage skillz !

    For Example where is the Arcane Barrage ?
    the point of the scorchweave is so you don't arcane barrage and drop stacks.

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    Originally Posted by Gabbz View Post
    For Example where is the Arcane Barrage ?
    LOL Gabbz, BRO! *facepalm*

    I assure you there is nothing wrong with this ScorchWeave. you do NOT use ArB with scorch weave ONLY if you are moving and will be moving longer than the duration of the debuff OR its about to fall off OR you have 1 second left on alter time and cant get a arcane blast off before alter time ends (since you get all 6 stacks back).

    There is absoultely no question both my Standard Arcane(with ArB usage) and ScorchWeave are the top right now by a very large margin.You're a cool dude but coming to my thread to doubt me and then use false information (ArB with a scorchweave spec? really?) sucks man so please stop




    Also after extensive testing despite what the fanboys say on Mage forums with scorchweave you want to go heavy mastery. I have tried this as 470-502 Ilvl and the result is always a MINIMUM of 7k DPS incrase over haste builds. Enjoy!

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    Originally Posted by Soapbox View Post
    LOL Gabbz, BRO! *facepalm*

    I assure you there is nothing wrong with this ScorchWeave. you do NOT use ArB with scorch weave ONLY if you are moving and will be moving longer than the duration of the debuff OR its about to fall off OR you have 1 second left on alter time and cant get a arcane blast off before alter time ends (since you get all 6 stacks back).

    There is absoultely no question both my Standard Arcane(with ArB usage) and ScorchWeave are the top right now by a very large margin.You're a cool dude but coming to my thread to doubt me and then use false information (ArB with a scorchweave spec? really?) sucks man so please stop




    Also after extensive testing despite what the fanboys say on Mage forums with scorchweave you want to go heavy mastery. I have tried this as 470-502 Ilvl and the result is always a MINIMUM of 7k DPS incrase over haste builds. Enjoy!
    do you want to hit a minimum amount of haste? 3043 or whatever that plateau was?

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    Originally Posted by demonmeh View Post
    do you want to hit a minimum amount of haste? 3043 or whatever that plateau was?
    Yea, depending on ilvl you will automatically hit this

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    I wish I knew enough about mages to know if I should be impressed by the dps in that last video. What ilvl is that at Soap? The mage I run with in raids doesn't average near that but he's kinda crappy geared so curious how much gear plays into it.
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    the ilvl i used for this video was 473

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    Ok so the mage I run with must just suck then. Thanks for the info.
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    well its a 1 min 38 sec parse on aoe targets with a prepot - ending around 87k. its decent for 473 tho for sure. it will scale down considerably on single target tho - arcane is best for single target - not aoe.

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    Originally Posted by Soapbox View Post
    LOL Gabbz, BRO! *facepalm*

    I assure you there is nothing wrong with this ScorchWeave. you do NOT use ArB with scorch weave ONLY if you are moving and will be moving longer than the duration of the debuff OR its about to fall off OR you have 1 second left on alter time and cant get a arcane blast off before alter time ends (since you get all 6 stacks back).

    Also after extensive testing despite what the fanboys say on Mage forums with scorchweave you want to go heavy mastery. I have tried this as 470-502 Ilvl and the result is always a MINIMUM of 7k DPS incrase over haste builds. Enjoy!
    Even you do Arcane Barrage ! Its in the video ! I missed that

    Next is that you dont Cast Arcane Barrage on the move...You cast Arcane Explosion when its less then 1 sec on the charges to maintain the stacks.... So when you stop moving you are at 6 stacks..

    Next is a question/thought: why do you wait until 6 stacks before you do AT ?
    Why do you cast Mana Gem when your next 2 cast after AT should be AM. You setting yourself at 100% mana when you about casting spells that arnt costing any mana..

    That leads to you needing to cast scorch when you have AP up....Never cast scorch when AP is up.
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    Originally Posted by Gabbz View Post
    Even you do Arcane Barrage ! Its in the video ! I missed that

    Next is that you dont Cast Arcane Barrage on the move...You cast Arcane Explosion when its less then 1 sec on the charges to maintain the stacks.... So when you stop moving you are at 6 stacks..

    Next is a question/thought: why do you wait until 6 stacks before you do AT ?
    Why do you cast Mana Gem when your next 2 cast after AT should be AM. You setting yourself at 100% mana when you about casting spells that arnt costing any mana..

    That leads to you needing to cast scorch when you have AP up....Never cast scorch when AP is up.
    When using scirch weave you WANT to stay at damn near 100% mana. and you will. the point is the higher mana you have the more damage you do, so the whole theory of get to 80% then scorch is flawed. Blatty the top US arc mage as well as a few others (one of which im working with) have already proven this. why not wait until 6 stacks to use Alter time? 6 stacks is better than 4 is it not? , you can fit more than 2 arcane missiles into a AT, like 1 AB and a ArB(which is what i cast at the very end of alter time since I get the stacks back). then after that you weave scorch and arcane missles in between each arcane blast UNLESS you dont have 6 stacks, in wich you dont use scorch until you do have 6 stacks. THe mana gem before Alter time is to ensure that you have 100% mana (100% damage potential) during Alter time and after. and it is fine to scorch during Arcane power, you have to get rid of the cats "burn during arcane power" mindset. those days are long gone, its about peak mana now.



    Arcane Explosion while moving? DO you play a mage?

    You have to hit something with arcane explosion to refresh stacks dude.

    Again, ScorchWeave will only ArB at the very end of alter time(since when it wears off i get the stacks back) and if you are going to be moving longer than 8 seconds or for whatever reason the buff will fall off before u can finish a arcane blast. Which is what it does.

    All of the info you have brought is dated man, even with a haste build the point is to stay at max mana you NEVER burn, period.
    Last edited by Soapbox; 12-19-2012 at 07:58 AM.

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