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    Originally Posted by U_dont_kno_me? View Post
    brah i used it a little bit when it was released and not at all afterwards, got banned. it was detected at the start.
    I used it many times as I tested dll injection and I didn't get banned.
    It wasn't detected at release
    Zomfg. And no, don't ask. - Dombo did it.

    [Release] LuaNinja - Run protected Lua code
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    I lost 2 accounts and several 80's. As did one of my best friends and my mom (lol sorry mam.) So we all bought new keys and made a RAF chain It's pretty fun being able to give eachother levels and stuff like that.

    And to be quite honest. This actually made me wanna play and hack WoW even more than before. Banning my account was just like shooting adrenaline into a guy about to rob a bank. It'll make the process even more enjoyable

    Also changed faction, realm and class. YAY for new content
    Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow.

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    Originally Posted by Elitetech View Post
    I lost 2 accounts and several 80's. As did one of my best friends and my mom (lol sorry mam.)
    omg I can hear her screaming your name in my head ha ha ha i bet she was a bit annoyed :P

    Originally Posted by Elitetech View Post
    And to be quite honest. This actually made me wanna play and hack WoW even more than before. Banning my account was just like shooting adrenaline into a guy about to rob a bank. It'll make the process even more enjoyable
    Same, all this has done is made me go hunting for the more 'fun' things to be done in wow on my old account.

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    1 Question.

    Can I use the CD key that used in the banned account for other accounts?
    Or should I buy another Retail Box?

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    Originally Posted by el_primero View Post
    1 Question.

    Can I use the CD key that used in the banned account for other accounts?
    Or should I buy another Retail Box?
    Buy another, that keys dead now as its linked to that account,

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    Originally Posted by Boomkin101 View Post
    Cypher, please respond to this, as i know this thread is probably going to get less and less attention from this point on due to the detection. Can we get a word on a possible 2.4.3 release? Or a source code release so that others can try to create it? A few people have been asking about it and im sure that theres more than who are asking, i posted the 2.4.3 wow.exe myself if you need it a few pages back.*

    EDIT : Reposting the exe link here.
    MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service
    This here is an example of the third best way of going about asking for something on this site. I'm so impressed that it's not the usual style of "you suck! give me what I want nao!" I'll be happy to slap something together for you for 2.4.3. Give me a couple days to sort some other stuff out though.

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    Originally Posted by gippy View Post
    Buy another, that keys dead now as its linked to that account,
    Thanks mate for quick reply.

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    Originally Posted by Elitetech View Post
    I lost 2 accounts and several 80's. As did one of my best friends and my mom (lol sorry mam.) So we all bought new keys and made a RAF chain It's pretty fun being able to give eachother levels and stuff like that.

    And to be quite honest. This actually made me wanna play and hack WoW even more than before. Banning my account was just like shooting adrenaline into a guy about to rob a bank. It'll make the process even more enjoyable

    Also changed faction, realm and class. YAY for new content
    Word. It's cool. It's like when you were a kid.. Parents said "DUN TOUCH DAT" and still you had to, because you wasn't supposed to. If they would be like "lol just touch it" it wouldnt be as exciting to do so you wouldn't. Human nature is curious. And stupid. Lol. =D

    Btw love the raf chain dude <3

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    I really cant stand these whinging leachers complaining about LUANinja getting them banned.
    Where the hell did you get this idea that Cypher owes you anything, and how do you figure that your getting banned is in any way his fault.
    YOU CHEATED AND GOT CAUGHT. You knew the risk and lost your gamble.
    Cypher wrote a tool, released it and updated it for free.
    When you can write your own, feel free to do so, then you wont have to take the risk of a public hack.
    Untill then join the other users in thanking him for the use of the tool for 3 months, and count yourselves lucky that he even released it for free to the public.
    Its whinging leachers like you that mean alot of stuff never goes public.
    As always, thanks to Cypher/Kynox/Harko for releasing/testing and generally sharing your knowledge. for every self entitled whinger there are many more apreciative users(or leachers like me)

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    Greyman, I appreciate the rather calm response. Few comments...


    Originally Posted by Greyman View Post
    Programming in LUA and understanding the internals of the script engine implentation in the WoW executable are fundamentally different. You are making bold (and incorrect) assertions based on the latter, not the former.
    What assertions are you making a reference to? I was merely explaining to someone that it doesn't matter if it was AddOn code or macros that have been executed that flagged these now banned accounts, but rather what the engine then passed on to the servers. I might have gotten my terminology wrong, but I assure you the essence of how macro api and lua scripting is handled at the end of the line is not lost on me.

    Originally Posted by Greyman View Post
    Also note that Warden is not the only anti-cheat mechanism that WoW utilizes. It is simply the most well known and the most pervasive. It is entirely possible that LuaNinja et al have escaped Warden detection only to be picked up by something else embedded deeply in seemingly innocuous code.
    Right, and that was my point in asking if it has been determined whether the cause for the flagging was due to the protected functions being passed from the clients or the actual injection process. Kynox's own blog states that it seems Warden has been tabulating all the users who have been using the hack since Dec 19th (Dribble Blog Archive Banwave in effect - Just another WordPress weblog). However, the conclusions he and Harko arrive at do not seem to hold any water based on my own (Win7x64) and most of the commenters' experiences on that thread.

    Originally Posted by Greyman View Post
    Correct. Unfortunately something you considered to be a contribution was not, because it was based on a set of flawed assumptions. Your initial response to being called out on that wasn't entirely productive, hence the 'flame' responses from Kynox and myself.
    Apologies if my contributions to this thread have been deemed destructive to the otherwise calm, Kumbaya pace of this site.

    I am sure I didn't win any points with the elders of the forum when I questioned Cypher's attitude towards shell-shocked users just trying to figure out what happened (http://www.mmowned.com/forums/bots-p...ml#post1785049). Whether or not that was why my later comments were disected certainly seems causal.

    It's NOT clear to me, however, why the schoolyard name-calling?

    Originally Posted by kynox View Post
    You're spouting bullshit....Do you realise how retarded you're sounding?
    Originally Posted by Greyman View Post
    Until you fix that flawed assumption, bullshit will continue to flow out of your posts like a river unto the sea
    Originally Posted by Cypher View Post
    You're obviously a massive dipshit, so just sit in the corner and shut the **** up. Kthx.
    I am sure you guys are totally chill, articulate, and humorous dudes, and many a time I have laughed at some of the quippy one-liners that are used on noobs. It's unfortunate that I really riled up some of you, but I don't regret voicing my opinions last night.

    I leave you with the sentiments I wrote as soon as I witnessed mistimed snarkiness:

    Originally Posted by armen View Post
    Obviously this is not Cypher's fault, we all knew the risks, but damn it's frustrating to log on here after being banned (all of my battle.net accounts gone 10 mins ago) and all I see is the author nitpicking at someone's comment.
    You judge for yourself if that warranted the backlash that someone should expect after making a civil comment.

    [/rant]

    Collini OUT.
    Last edited by armen; 01-12-2010 at 08:06 PM. Reason: spaleeng meestakes

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    OK GUYS, shut your fat mouths. The past 20 pages of people flaming/nerd raging at each other are all the exact same posts being re written by diff people stating the same thing.

    IT IS NOW TIME

    for all of us to unite and seek revenge on blizzard.
    Today, was a day to remember but in the end we will always be victorious.

    I have received the will of god, and I must kill Blizzard.

    FOR THE HORDE!!!!!

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    Originally Posted by Cypher View Post
    Lets be honest, the Warden guy is ridiculously lazy, so this should be safe for quite some time.
    This is quite funny, let this be a lesson to all you kids out there.

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    Originally Posted by armen View Post
    Greyman, I appreciate the rather calm response. Few comments...

    What assertions are you making a reference to? I was merely explaining to someone that it doesn't matter if it was AddOn code or macros that have been executed that flagged these now banned accounts, but rather what the engine then passed on to the servers.
    This is the flawed assumption that you continue to propagate. A serverside scan (which is what was being referred to in the post you originally quoted) can pick up macro code. It cannot pick up addon code.

    The person making the original post was actively contributing something by eliminating the possibilty of the bans being serverside. Unfortunately all you were doing was getting in the way, despite the best of intentions.

    This really has been done to death. I think anyone reading the thread can draw their own conclusions based on our posts. The back and forth is achieving nothing at this point.

    Apologies if my contributions to this thread have been deemed destructive to the otherwise calm, Kumbaya pace of this site.
    Haha, I'll pay that.

    However, most people aren't spreading misinformation and STILL claiming it's correct when it is not - they're merely QQ'ing on a large scale. QQ is harmless. Misinformation can cause problems for people.

    You seem like a cool dude - minus the overly confident, seemingly uninformed speculation/misinformation. You may not regret your opinion, such as it was, but you also can't complain when people call you out on it being incorrect. That's the nature of the site.

    Also FYI - your earlier post to Cypher and this back and forth are not even remotely causal. You can drop that conspiracy theory.

    I really couldn't care less what you say about/to Cypher, Kynox, Apoc or any other 'luminary' of this site or others. I was and will continue to criticize the technical content of your post, not the person behind it.

    As repeated ad nauseum throughout this thread: Misinformation is bad. Particularly during a banwave.
    Last edited by Greyman; 01-12-2010 at 09:08 PM. Reason: Stuff. And things.

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    Are there any specifics as to how this was detected if Warden wasn't updated? I thought what we did was only on the client side.. and in order for it to be detected, we'd have to download something.. O.o; Someone want to fill me in? I'm curious.

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    Greyman, again I thank you for maintaining a civil discourse in responding; and no, I am not trying to come off patronizing.

    I thought the whole of your response was right on, save for the very beginning.

    Originally Posted by Greyman View Post
    A serverside scan (which is what was being referred to in the post you originally quoted) can pick up macro code. It cannot pick up addon code.
    Somehow my original point (or at least what I was attempting to say) did not come through properly. I tried to clarify in my subsequent posts that whether the originating user action is derived from a macro or Lua code within an addon the resulting function being executed server-side is still going to be (potentially) logged/flagged. I believe Kynox said the same thing in a later post:

    Originally Posted by kynox View Post
    When a macro or lua addon calls a function, its processed by the engine and then passed off to the function which sends off the packet to blizzard.
    I welcome the chance to learn from you guys, and if my understanding is still off, please do correct me.

    Cheers.

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