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    Originally Posted by Mango Jerry View Post
    The Myths aren't true..
    Its not allowed to check people's privacy by scanning harddrive, history etc. etc.
    Even though if it did there would be tons of people getting banned, so I believe its not true.
    I believe in Warden and what it 'does' but I'm almost sure it doesn't check other people's privacies.
    What the **** are you talking about?

    Do you even know what the word "myth" means?

    A 'myth' is SOMETHING THAT IS NOT TRUE.

    Sigh.

    Also, unless you have hard evidence backing your case it's probably best to refrain from posting in threads with highly technical backings like this one. Unless you can prove that Warden does or does not do X, then just be quiet, or you'll get ripped to pieces.

    P.S. You might also want to refrain from talking about that "Warden's 'not allowed' to do it because of privacy blah blah" bullshit. Unless you're a lawyer, just keep it to yourself. You're free to discuss it elsewhere, but this thread is here to discuss Warden from a technical viewpoint, not a legal viewpoint.

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    But but Cypher, the internets has made me a legal expert!

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    Originally Posted by Cypher View Post
    What the **** are you talking about?

    Do you even know what the word "myth" means?

    A 'myth' is SOMETHING THAT IS NOT TRUE.

    Sigh.

    Also, unless you have hard evidence backing your case it's probably best to refrain from posting in threads with highly technical backings like this one. Unless you can prove that Warden does or does not do X, then just be quiet, or you'll get ripped to pieces.

    P.S. You might also want to refrain from talking about that "Warden's 'not allowed' to do it because of privacy blah blah" bullshit. Unless you're a lawyer, just keep it to yourself. You're free to discuss it elsewhere, but this thread is here to discuss Warden from a technical viewpoint, not a legal viewpoint.
    I agree with Cypher. Leave your unsubstantiated claims out of this thread. This threads information is based on technical analysis of the warden module, not guess work.

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    Perhaps this is a really retarded thing to ask, but I hope not. From what I've gathered here Warden is unable to scan outside WoW.

    I'm wondering about the following: With 2 clients running, Client 1 being played by a bot, client 2 being 'clean', would the 2nd client/account still be safe? In other words: Does Warden from client 2 scan client 1 aswell, or just it's own process?

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    warden IS able they just choose not to at this time. as for question 2 I can't safely answer that.

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    Lol I did an exam on mythology

    A myth is a story that is not true, but has truth in its meaning (in very simple words)

    So basically for example the Adam and Eve story is a myth.
    Its not true, but its truth is that man can sin.

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    Originally Posted by happel View Post
    Perhaps this is a really retarded thing to ask, but I hope not. From what I've gathered here Warden is unable to scan outside WoW.

    I'm wondering about the following: With 2 clients running, Client 1 being played by a bot, client 2 being 'clean', would the 2nd client/account still be safe? In other words: Does Warden from client 2 scan client 1 aswell, or just it's own process?
    Its very much able to, however it has not done so for quite some time.

    Instances of Warden are local to each instance of WoW.

    Technically if you're cheating in one WoW and not the other then only one will get banned (with some exceptions).

    However I guess if they wanted to they could do checks at ban-time and just grab all your accounts.



    Originally Posted by executioneroz View Post
    Lol I did an exam on mythology

    A myth is a story that is not true, but has truth in its meaning (in very simple words)

    So basically for example the Adam and Eve story is a myth.
    Its not true, but its truth is that man can sin.
    I'm using it in the colloquial sense, which is different. In the sense I'm using it the definition is pretty much "a story which is false".

    Whilst still not 100% the right word to use, the focus of the post was not to get the grammar perfect, it was to explain some truths and lies about Warden.

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    Originally Posted by Cypher View Post
    Its very much able to, however it has not done so for quite some time.

    Instances of Warden are local to each instance of WoW.

    Technically if you're cheating in one WoW and not the other then only one will get banned (with some exceptions).

    However I guess if they wanted to they could do checks at ban-time and just grab all your accounts.
    Thanks a lot for clarifying this.

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    Great post!

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    Limits Extended(?)

    In the aggreement for Battle.net account creation
    wich was a MUST to be able to login to your World of Warcraft account, wasn't the aggreements of privacy extended? Or did it even have to do anything with the scanning and searching of your computer, or just that they have now more benefits when you actually play World of Warcraft, that they can basicaly do more stuff when you're online, monitor and stuff.

    I could not find the aggreements on the net, this is just me asking, but something in the aggreement gave them more access to something.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Last edited by antis0c; 01-29-2010 at 04:16 PM.

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    Originally Posted by antis0c View Post
    Time to start this thread back up! =D

    I mention this because every bot forum I have access to and can read is reporting massive bans. The variety of bots being banned makes me want to believe some technical change took place within Warden.

    I love several accounts. But only accounts I played last week up to, but not including the weekend.

    If not, feel free to smack me down.
    It's something different; warden hasn't changed since AIOBot.

    *Edit* Or, flawed protection: http://blog.kynox.org/?p=156
    Last edited by kynox; 01-12-2010 at 04:22 AM.

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    Kynox you are my god, long time watcher of your blog it is good to know that someone is out there creating an even playing field.

    I was wondering, how are you checking for warden's changes? Does the CRC of wardens dll change at all? And at any point will you ever create a program that checks daily for updates in warden?
    Last edited by Captin_55; 01-11-2010 at 11:46 PM.
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    Originally Posted by Captin_55 View Post
    Kynox you are my god, long time watcher of your blog it is good to know that someone is out there creating an even playing field.

    I was wondering, how are you checking for warden's changes? Does the CRC of wardens dll change at all? And at any point will you ever create a program that checks daily for updates in warden?
    Sea-turtles, mate.

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    Originally Posted by kynox View Post
    Sea-turtles, mate.
    *Mind explodes*
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