Warden and 'The Governor'

[Rival-Fr]

I just said that even if they do not, he is an adviser in this program to change the name of the window because they have the right to do if they want.

Well it's not serious, we will stop the spam thread.

[Cypher]

I just said that even if they do not, he is an adviser in this program to change the name of the window because they have the right to do if they want.

Well it's not serious, we will stop the spam thread.

What the **** are you talking about?

I think you need to learn to speak English properly or be more explicit in what you're trying to say.

The fact remains that in YOUR ORIGINAL POST you implied that I was wrong about Warden's behaviour because of a snippet from the EULA. That logic is retarded and the conclusion reached is provably wrong.

I never said changing the window titles is going to raise the chance of a banwave, but it's not going to lower it either.

But hey, if you wanna play "Warden can add new features at any time" I'll play. I took a quick look at your bot and let me tell you now that you fail right off the bat on your attempts to hide from window scans (because you forgot child windows) and process scans (renaming the process does nothing, you need to find a way to get around the hash checks). And hey, that's just previous Warden features. If you wanna throw in new features then your bot offers practically zero security.

You're fighting against fact (Warden does not currently scan window titles). Surely even someone as thick as yourself can appreciate the futility in that, so stop annoying us with your stupidity.

[KRANTZ]

cypher has issues

[Cypher]

cypher has issues

Everyone has issues, they're just different for each person. If you think that you don't have anything other people would consider 'issues' that just means you're probably suffering from a form of narcissism, which is of course, an issue.

So... what's your point?

[KRANTZ]

My point is is that your rather insulting at points where theres no need to be .

[Remus]

If you take a second or so... you'd search through his posts and come to a great and astounding realization. He is that way, and can be that way.

This is his area essentially and you guys continue to barge in tracking smelly ass mud through the front door as you walk to the back door.

[Cypher]

My point is is that your rather insulting at points where theres no need to be .

You cannot argue logically about an illogical idea. The most powerful tool at your disposal against the illogical is ridicule.

I've been on this site a while, I think I might know what works and what doesn't in terms of "getting through" to different types of people.

If you take a second or so... you'd search through his posts and come to a great and astounding realization. He is that way, and can be that way.

This is his area essentially and you guys continue to barge in tracking smelly ass mud through the front door as you walk to the back door.

Rifk. Winnar!

[Rival-Fr]

I do not agree, it's true that I expressed myself badly on the first post but that's no reason to insult me. If I speak English well I'd be back in more detail, but I have trouble with English.

After my robot, if the user starts Wow with the Guest account, Wow has no access to the list of processes the Admin account.

[Cypher]

I do not agree, it's true that I expressed myself badly on the first post but that's no reason to insult me. If I speak English well I'd be back in more detail, but I have trouble with English.

After my robot, if the user starts Wow with the Guest account, Wow has no access to the list of processes the Admin account.

So? It's very easy for Warden to check if WoW is being run with a restricted token (e.g. under the guest account) and flag your account because of it.

Very very very few false positives would be raised by this. I'm not suggesting they ban based on this, but a flagging would be appropriate.

Using the guest account does MORE HARM THAN GOOD. From memory one of Glider's banwaves was caused by Launchpad running WoW with a restricted token, so Blizz is very willing to call you out on it.

Also, Warden DOES NOT USE THE ****ING PROCESS LIST TO BEGIN WITH! Ergo running WoW under the guest account does zero good and has the potential for harm.

Bravo on getting things completely backwards.

EDIT:

If you want to preemptively protect against window/process checks that's fine, but do it right, don't run WoW under the guest account and claim you're immune from detection. That's ****ing retarded and extremely wrong.

[Tassadaru]

If I were a bot maker I'd recruit Cypher and pay him 50% of the income (or more)

No rly, the guy's good, he's the way he is, and is usually right in saying what Warden does and what it doesn't do.

Currently I don't know a name of a bot that is secure enough to use (yes, I know everything's detectable, and I'm speaking of currently undetected and good security/hiding implementations in code), and that doesn't have a team that "tries" so hard to hide it, but fails miserably...

Really, after reading through this thread over and over again, I still can't get enough of the discussion.

[opticalza]

accurate post is accurate

[shenster]

thanks for info

[yopilax]

i've referred to this thread all year for my warden data and in all cases have never found cypher to be inaccurate. i fully understand the lack of patience regarding ignorance.

regardless, thank you for the useful wealth of information.

[chillydog]

cypher ur my hero

[Mango Jerry]

The Myths aren't true..
Its not allowed to check people's privacy by scanning harddrive, history etc. etc.
Even though if it did there would be tons of people getting banned, so I believe its not true.
I believe in Warden and what it 'does' but I'm almost sure it doesn't check other people's privacies.