Glider Lawsuit Discussion Thread

[Geniz]

All of us agree that glider is a third part program right ? Third part programs is indeed illigal and cba to find the exact phase saying this, but it is illigal and we all know it, we all know that the fact that we use glider could get us banned and got lots of people banned due to the glider being detectable at the time.. This lawsuit is pointless and MDY shouldn't win in any case, glider is illigal and if they win the lawsuit, does this than mean that Blizzard should allow the use of third part programs? No one want that to happen and thats why MDY is destant to lose this lawsuit and also why they SHOULD lose it.

Anything else would be completly stupid - should they than make glider "Legal" But only if they can't detect it ? Dosn't make any sense to be..

Glider is illigal - i used it happily but that time is over... (...)

[MindChild]

All of us agree that glider is a third part program right ? Third part programs is indeed illigal and cba to find the exact phase saying this, but it is illigal and we all know it

well, this isnt true. it is not "illegal." Glider is against the EULA and thus violates the agreement of use so they may stop us from using the program but it is not against the law

if they win the lawsuit, does this than mean that Blizzard should allow the use of third part programs?

no, there is a difference in illegal and a contract violation.

imagine, you sign a contract with an electric company saying you will pay the bill. if you fail to pay the bill, are you doing something "illegal"? no, and most companies will give a few reminders to get back into compliance with the contract and not exercise their right to void said contract.

it is not illegal, it violates contract and they can prohibit access.



blizzard does not want to void all the glider user's contracts as that would cause a loss in money. instead, they have decided to attack the company with copyright laws that dont apply hoping that the "damages" put MDY out of business instead of dealing with the violating users.

[foxey112]

Agree with above idd

[greasemonkey]

Multiboxing also 3rd Party Programm, and Blizzard says it is not illegal and no cheat! I think there is one human player playing 10 chars in PvP where is the relation to one single player. The Multiboxer can earn much more Experience and Honor in the BG then the people who plays one char. It is also little bit unfair I think agains one player playing against one player with 10 chars. But Blizzard said it is legal and you must have a chance single char against 10 *lol* where is the relation???? **** Blizzard, Now playing another game and dont pay for this shit!

[theGardener]

All of us agree that glider is a third part program right ? Third part programs is indeed illigal and cba to find the exact phase saying this, but it is illigal and we all know it, we all know that the fact that we use glider could get us banned and got lots of people banned due to the glider being detectable at the time.. This lawsuit is pointless and MDY shouldn't win in any case, glider is illigal and if they win the lawsuit, does this than mean that Blizzard should allow the use of third part programs? No one want that to happen and thats why MDY is destant to lose this lawsuit and also why they SHOULD lose it.

You seem to be using illegal as in committing a criminal offense. Do you really think that Blizzard should be allowed to write laws? No silly noob, only our representatives should be allowed to write laws.

I agree, a bot breaks the EULA/TOS agreement with Blizzard, but that doesn't mean Blizzard should be allowed to send the cops to my door. The courts may not like it, but MDY must/will win (I've said it before and I'll say it again).

Imagine if you will, you bought a piece of junk Fiat. One part of the contract said that you could only buy parts and service from Fiat.

Well Fiat charges a lot for parts and services, so you go to billy-bob's auto down the street to get parts and service.

What should you expect?:

A. Your Fiat warranty is no longer valid because you broke the contract.
B. To be arrested and charged with a crime because you broke the contract.

If you picked A, congrats, you have a clue how things work.

If you picked B, then you really need some help and this is what Blizzard is trying to push over on those of us that purchased the game (yes, I used the word purchased, because that is what I did, not leased or rented, or whatever else the would like to try to call it, I paid my money and I got my copy).

[911comp]

Multiboxing also 3rd Party Programm, and Blizzard says it is not illegal and no cheat! I think there is one human player playing 10 chars in PvP where is the relation to one single player. The Multiboxer can earn much more Experience and Honor in the BG then the people who plays one char. It is also little bit unfair I think agains one player playing against one player with 10 chars. But Blizzard said it is legal and you must have a chance single char against 10 *lol* where is the relation???? **** Blizzard, Now playing another game and dont pay for this shit!

That's because if you are using Multibox for 10acc you should pay for all 10acc...
And if you are using Glider you paying for only ONE acc and can farm few grands of gold to sell to other ppl.(and that ppl dont need to farm that gold manually(less pay to Blizzard, because they not wasting game time))
So what is better fo Blizzard?

Thats why they allow Multibox but dont allow farm/level 24/7

IMHO

[trikinomitry101]

Necroposting is against the rules.


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[Stippy'six]

anyone know about glider? heard of it? are it coming back? miss it so much! best bot ever made!

[Multitask]

anyone know about glider? Heard of it? Are it coming back? miss it so much! Best bot ever made!

[no questions here]

[wowregister]

Oh the haunting memorys.

[greasemonkey]

All of us agree that glider is a third part program right ? Third part programs is indeed illigal and cba to find the exact phase saying this, but it is illigal and we all know it, we all know that the fact that we use glider could get us banned and got lots of people banned due to the glider being detectable at the time.. This lawsuit is pointless and MDY shouldn't win in any case, glider is illigal and if they win the lawsuit, does this than mean that Blizzard should allow the use of third part programs? No one want that to happen and thats why MDY is destant to lose this lawsuit and also why they SHOULD lose it.

Anything else would be completly stupid - should they than make glider "Legal" But only if they can't detect it ? Dosn't make any sense to be..

Glider is illigal - i used it happily but that time is over... (...)

Not every third Party Programm is illegal !!! World of Warcrafts Rules not denied third Party programms at all !!! But They prevent Programms that control the Character without any human interaction at anytime!

Multiboxing is allowed not explicit but it is a third party programm with Key injection!!! But Blizzard told me that this is not illegal!

[Speedracer22]

Legal: decision in Vernor v AutoDesk.

A Washington state court ruled yesterday in a case that's very interesting to us, Vernor v. Autodesk. In this case, Autodesk claims that Vernor can't sell used copies of their software on eBay because he doesn't own them: the previous owners were not actually owners, just licensees. So they couldn't sell it.

The court disagreed and said that, despite the EULA, people who bought Autodesk were owners of the stuff they bought. So they could, in fact, sell it.

It's important to us because it helps support our position that WoW players are also owners of the software they have. This doesn't mean they own the copyright to WoW, it means they own the particular copy that they walked out of Best Buy with.

If the Ninth Circuit follows this court's line of reasoning with our case, then it is going to end very badly for Blizzard.

One very interesting thing that the judge goes over in this case is the idea that ownership and licensing are not mutually exclusive. You can own a copy of software and still be a licensee, subject to the limitations in the license. This makes a good deal of sense and still protects Glider customers under section 117 of the Copyright Act from becoming copyright infringers. See the highlighted section in the order (it's yellow, can't miss it!) for that tidbit.

Also of note, it's creepy as hell to see us cited. I guess that'll happen a lot down the road as more software developers seek to artificially control secondhand markets with this ruling, but the first one is always special.

Download link:
http://www.mmoglider.com/legal/09_30...norOpinion.pdf

they stil in law

[Stormbrewer]

Now that the 9th circut will be reached I believe that Blizzard will lose. If you look on the glider forums website announcements theres a story about a similar story, check it out (i'm totally not posting a link)

[~OddBall~]

Now that the 9th circut will be reached I believe that Blizzard will lose. If you look on the glider forums website announcements theres a story about a similar story, check it out (i'm totally not posting a link)

cos the guy above you didn't just post the story.....


/facepalm

[nstar7]

i allways was pissed off at the principle of only being a mere licensee for the software i bought and not being able to resale it off i ever want too; so the news Speedracer22 gave us about that trial is great