I think I figured out how to avoid ban

[nowayrlz]

You know you can randomize the delays of actions for each action right? It's plain simple 3 lines at most you'd been done with that.

[Dogcom]

Im botting new account since yesterday.Lvl 22 already,not softban,or IP or whatever.Running aprox 4-5hrs every day

dont worry they will ban you once you hit lv30.... Your name is on the queue list.

[cl3537]

How is it the blind leading the blind? I'm not saying what I posted is concrete. It's theory. I'm just posting what's worked for me so far. It's simple...

- Change the delays every 30 min to 1 hr if you can (this includes traveling speed in km/h) run the bot.
- Keep the killswitch requirements low (below 200)
- Don't bot more than 4 hrs straight. With a killswitch in the low 100's your bot will kill itself in 2 hrs (more or less).
- Before you boot it up again, change the delays and traveling speed again, run it for another 2 hrs.


I'd say botting 4 hrs straight would be safe if you're changing delays and speeds every hr. Everything needs to be variable, not constant. And more importantly, human. I bot for 4 hrs max and take a break for 2-3 hrs. I might come back and do 4 more hours but I don't bot more than 8 hours a day.

Maybe it's true they have me flagged and I'm going down but better to be optimistic than pessimistic at this point

You seem to be under the mistaken impression pretending to act like a human matters, there is no evidence to suggest it does. If the problem is A and you keep trying B1, B2, B3 and small tweaks of B it means nothing.

Niantic developers can download all of these bots source code, run them while they monitor the traffic on the server side and use this to refine their anti-cheat methods. This all assumes they even need to do any of that to detect bots and the information contained in UK6 is not enough to make it obvious already.

There seems to be anecdotal evidence that Perm Bans seem to happen quicker as one passes level 22+ so why should one bot slower and wait a week only to get banned anyway? (We can have this same discussion in 2 - 3 weeks and I am sure you will agree with me)

Optimism is fine, blind optimism just wastes everyones time. If anything more time should be spent on working on making these bots use the client to play directly like a legit player. That is so far from trying to "humanize" the existing direct access API bots which are much more efficient.

[RuckFules93]

dont worry they will ban you once you hit lv30.... Your name is on the queue list.

I guess they won´t wait that long - got banned on an account that was lvl 23 of which I played exactly 10 minutes on Nox like 2 weeks ago just to get me one Charizard - banned! So don´t expect them to ban you when you hit 30, just expect them to ban you randomly whenever they want

[ChrisHeub]

same for me, started botting on an old lvl23 account which i had before all those ban waves. reached lvl 25 got banned immediatly while i was running necro with these "humans-like" Settings.

[iLLmatical]

You know you can randomize the delays of actions for each action right? It's plain simple 3 lines at most you'd been done with that.

How?

Account still alive after almost 3 days of botting.. Lvl 21.

[iLLmatical]

You seem to be under the mistaken impression pretending to act like a human matters, there is no evidence to suggest it does. If the problem is A and you keep trying B1, B2, B3 and small tweaks of B it means nothing.

Niantic developers can download all of these bots source code, run them while they monitor the traffic on the server side and use this to refine their anti-cheat methods. This all assumes they even need to do any of that to detect bots and the information contained in UK6 is not enough to make it obvious already.

There seems to be anecdotal evidence that Perm Bans seem to happen quicker as one passes level 22+ so why should one bot slower and wait a week only to get banned anyway? (We can have this same discussion in 2 - 3 weeks and I am sure you will agree with me)

Optimism is fine, blind optimism just wastes everyones time. If anything more time should be spent on working on making these bots use the client to play directly like a legit player. That is so far from trying to "humanize" the existing direct access API bots which are much more efficient.

So what you're telling me is I'm mistaken, and acting human doesn't matter? How do you know this? Do you have intel from a reliable source at Niantic? If acting like a human doesn't matter, then everything everybody's said doesn't matter because it's all theory and hearsay.

ALL OF US are speculating. You can't act like you know some sort of undiscovered algorithm or process involved in banning when you don't. And I don't either. So far, in my trials, acting human works

I ran a bot from lvl 1 to 12 in 4 hrs and got banned.
Ran a 2nd account and got it from lvl 1 to 12 in a day. More realistic, no ban.

Will I get banned soon/down the road? probably.

[evagon]

People are still botting, because they don't understand why it is pointless to continue to do so. Your accounts will be terminated eventually. Niantic is doing real-time bans, not systematic bans in waves.

It's all related to unknown6 - https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongode..._got_that_ban/

[EssentialChicken]

not really, I had a batch of accounts banned even if they weren't logged in on nox/phone. Besides there is something called 'device faker'.

[thedreameater666]

The moment your account logs in on Nox or your phone, you're flagged. GL.

I can confirm this isn't true *immediately*. I am botting two accounts and have logged into both my phone and Nox several times. I am careful to make sure my gps is where the bot has me. One account is 19, the other is around 14. I have taken my time to reach these levels.

[elitesoldier123]

not really, I had a batch of accounts banned even if they weren't logged in on nox/phone. Besides there is something called 'device faker'.

Everything can be spoof at the data packet level.

[jbliz]

No matter what you do, how often you change config, low you speed to 15 km/h. The Ban Wave still coming, make sure prepare you boat.

[elitesoldier123]

No matter what you do, how often you change config, low you speed to 15 km/h. The Ban Wave still coming, make sure prepare you boat.

Prepare the boat? Not like any of us are even spending any time playing these characters. Who cares if they get banned. Right now there is no point to playing this game other than to test our bot configurations. Most of the holes that allow us to bot in the first place can't be patched. How is Niantic going to be able to patch GPS spoofing?

I think more work needs to be done at the programming level though.

[PokeGamer]

No matter what you do, how often you change config, low you speed to 15 km/h. The Ban Wave still coming, make sure prepare you boat.

I second that. No matter what config u use, will lead you to a ban eventually - unless u are using private bots that are unknown by niantic.

Before i got my a/c banned, i was only walking at 1.2km/h always. Never snipe. Each account will stay logged randomly between 2 - 4hrs, one at a time, controlled by .bat file i tweak myself.

Reduced ball throw accuracy so that i missed quite often like real life. Never teleport, always on paid private vpn which i used for torrent files.

I never get any softban as it is quite impossible for me to reach 1000/2000 limit in 24hrs at speed 1.2km/h. I changed my delay between actions to high figures (5000/10,000) too.

What i'm trying to say is that my settings are more safe and cautious than what ppl normally think are safe. Still perma banned in the end lvl 24, 21 and 17. It took them 1 - 2 weeks to ban me.

You can always try, but don't be disappointed when you got the 'cannot get data' message.

[wordup]

There is no real safe way. There is a way to safely run the bot until it gets shutdown. I've setup a grip of bots with different settings hoping one will slip threw ban waves and once that one bot does, it's time to work from there. The OP isn't wrong at all. This way you'll get to test the longevity of the bot instead of starting all over.

We all know lvl 1-20 is a cakewalk. Lvl 21-27 take your testing in strides. 28-35+ be very wary in these levels. Anything can happen.