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    Theory about the bans

    Ok, so i saw a post in an pokemon go bot forum and i think its pretty interesting, the op said he had an chat with a pro botter and the botter said that Niantic installed a new routine that checks how many Experience points per day are made. He says the limit is at about 200k exp/day at the moment.
    Above this value, accounts get banned.
    He even said that he experience accounts to get banned, that were not moved for about 2 weeks so
    he assumes, that the experience check is even made some time in the past.

    I think if its true the devs could make an limit about 150-160k exp per day, because the limit could be 180k too, what do you guys think about this theory?

    Theory about the bans
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    well people said they botted on new accounts for 2 hours with human like actions speed etc, and still got banned after 2 hours. If someone does find out how they detect bots it will be interesting because at the moment only a few people know and aren't releasing the information

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    You probably read that post somewhere on this forum, or the guy just copied it from here.

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    Strange, because i created an new acc yesterday, botted with necro for like 2 hours and got lvl 19, i will start botting at 10 pm in my country clock ( its 8 pm now here) because after 10 pm it will be passed more than 24 hours after the last bot ive started, if something happens i will post here

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    btw how bout we spend a little money likebuy 100 coins to show that the bot is human..

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    Originally Posted by pidgeyking View Post
    You probably read that post somewhere on this forum, or the guy just copied it from here.
    Idk bro, i just saw the post in other forum and i thinked that the information could help

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    I got banned for trying a bot, location here in my town going at less than 4kph. Without sniping obviously

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    Originally Posted by francicampione View Post
    I got banned for trying a bot, location here in my town going at less than 4kph. Without sniping obviously
    Which bot? Im using necro, 50 kph, 1-2 hours max, got lvl 21 today, created the acc yesterday and got lvl 19 yesterday

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    i bought coins and still banned

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    theory doesnt work, i botted for litterally 18 hrs straight for past 4 days, gained atleast like 500-600k xp each day with lucky eggs..still not banned

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    This is a good theory but I doubt its accurate. Ive made over 200k EXP today with my account, not banned.

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    i botted a new account for one night to lv 22 3 days ago, still alive............will see when it will be banned.

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    The only theory is they flagging account who access their api via bot/nox and decice to ban people randomly.
    Too many exp/pokemon/pokestop per day also get flagged, and will be banned sooner or later (because it random).

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    They are probably just running query script on database to find out the cheaters which is not hard at all
    Considering I rarely hear any complaint from legit players, that proves that they are actually pretty good at isolating the cheaters.

    LV>x ban
    # of pokestop/day >x ban
    # of pokemon caught/day >x ban
    # of softban>x ban
    altitude doesn't change = ban
    IP doesn't match location = ban
    Unrealistic Speed between two login location. ie. Distance between(location 1-2) / (Login Time 1- Login Time 2)

    I am sure there are a lot of queries that can be run to find the cheaters. So if you are thinking you will be safe just by lowering XP/day, I can guarantee you that it's not going to work. People are probably not banned because they are in a subset of a database that hasn't run the script. It's going to be daily basis. You could be banned in 2 hours and you could be banned in 2 weeks.

    The only way to beat it is to implement a true AI behavior botting system. For example a preloaded path with lat,long,and alt information feeding to the bot. Ideally with variable walking speed, variable throw accuracy (already implemented)

    But honestly, the game has no depth. This is not like WOW, I am actually impressed there are people invested so much time in the development.

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    Originally Posted by morons View Post
    They are probably just running query script on database to find out the cheaters which is not hard at all
    Considering I rarely hear any complaint from legit players, that proves that they are actually pretty good at isolating the cheaters.

    LV>x ban
    # of pokestop/day >x ban
    # of pokemon caught/day >x ban
    # of softban>x ban
    altitude doesn't change = ban
    IP doesn't match location = ban
    Unrealistic Speed between two login location. ie. Distance between(location 1-2) / (Login Time 1- Login Time 2)

    I am sure there are a lot of queries that can be run to find the cheaters. So if you are thinking you will be safe just by lowering XP/day, I can guarantee you that it's not going to work. People are probably not banned because they are in a subset of a database that hasn't run the script. It's going to be daily basis. You could be banned in 2 hours and you could be banned in 2 weeks.

    The only way to beat it is to implement a true AI behavior botting system. For example a preloaded path with lat,long,and alt information feeding to the bot. Ideally with variable walking speed, variable throw accuracy (already implemented)

    But honestly, the game has no depth. This is not like WOW, I am actually impressed there are people invested so much time in the development.
    Because we just love trolling with them lol

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