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    Originally Posted by junclj View Post
    I found out a way to keep you botting in safe.
    requirements:
    1. Don't connect other account with your phone during you botting because you will risk for IP ban.
    2. Don't fight and put pokemon in the gym because someone who might jealous and report you.
    3. Uninstall your nox and avoid it.
    This again? There's no safe boting! Niantic is somehow identifying who's using 3rd party apps instead of the official client!

    New temp ban only post here!
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    Originally Posted by deuxgod View Post
    This again? There's no safe boting! Niantic is somehow identifying who's using 3rd party apps instead of the official client!
    If they could easily detect that API requests are coming from a bot, they would just insta ban and save their resources. The fact that they don't do that proves that its not that easy for them.

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    Originally Posted by mrmadafaker View Post
    If they could easily detect that API requests are coming from a bot, they would just insta ban and save their resources. The fact that they don't do that proves that its not that easy for them.
    Even if you have just one account, you bot in your area at a human like behaviour, they are still banning you. Don't you agree that something is fishy? Because till now they have been spot on banning cheaters, even if you don't use the account for a long time. If you used only apps to check IV, like pokeadvisor, as long as you log with your account you're banned sooner or later. Some info regarding what you use to login is being passed to their servers. At least that's what I think.

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    Originally Posted by deuxgod View Post
    Seriously, the same never ending posts.

    a) If you don't take a gym with a botted account you won't get banned! Attachment 37553
    There's reports of people who didn't even wen't to the gym's and still got banned.

    b) If you use a human like configuration on your bot your account won't be banned! Attachment 37553
    Allot of people tried that we still got banned!

    c) If i stick with Nox I won't be banned! Attachment 37553
    Just read the damn reports. You will still be banned if you use Nox!

    d) If you stick to your town with a bot you won't get caught! Attachment 37553
    Even botting in your town will get you banned, just read the amount of reports regarding it.

    e) X bot is safe, nobody get's banned with it! Attachment 37553
    All available bots till now have users banned, once again just read the reports on Github for each bot.

    f) You only get banned if you snipe! Attachment 37553
    You get banned even if you don't snipe!

    g) There's reports of appeals leading to an account to be unbanned! Attachment 37553
    There's no proof of that. All reports stating that till now have beed debunked!

    h) My legit account that I never botted has been banned! Attachment 37553
    All reports about that till now have been proved to be fake. Not saying that it isn't true bot almost for sure something you did showed a red flag to Niantic!

    i) Niantic has answered my appeal! Attachment 37553
    And I'm the Santa Claus. All mails sent by Niantic till now are automated messages with the exact same text to everyone.

    j) My appeal is still Open!
    Sure, but give it some time and you'll see it closed without any answer. The systems seems to be automatic.

    k) My account that I haven't botted for X weeks is still available!
    Yeah, give it some time and you will see it's fate as we have seen this past week.

    l) Niantic sucks donkey balls! Attachment 37555
    We can all agree on that. They lack communication skills, support and they have proved multiple times that they have no stamina to run a game of this magnitude. However they have been spot on throwing out cheaters.
    I agree with you! This should be in the OP.

  5. #4145
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    Originally Posted by deuxgod View Post
    Even if you have just one account, you bot in your area at a human like behaviour, they are still banning you. Don't you agree that something is fishy? Because till now they have been spot on banning cheaters, even if you don't use the account for a long time. If you used only apps to check IV, like pokeadvisor, as long as you log with your account you're banned sooner or later. Some info regarding what you use to login is being passed to their servers. At least that's what I think.
    Well I don't know how exactly pokeadvisor works, I guess they (pokeadvisor system) get the information about your user by actually logging in. If they do that, they pass some info about the device which is trying to pull that information. Guess what: its either always the same (=easily bannable) or they don't don't send any at all (if so=easily bannable). I think that the device info is one of the key elements: if they can read your device ID, they can see that thousands of "people" have used the same one. What does that mean?

    EDIT: Currently botting the 2nd day. No soft bans so far. However, too early to make any conclusions.
    Last edited by mrmadafaker; 08-17-2016 at 04:48 AM.

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    Originally Posted by mrmadafaker View Post
    Well I don't know how exactly pokeadvisor works, I guess they (pokeadvisor system) get the information about your user by actually logging in. If they do that, they pass some info about the device which is trying to pull that information. Guess what: its either always the same (=easily bannable) or they don't don't send any at all (if so=easily bannable). I think that the device info is one of the key elements: if they can read your device ID, they can see that thousands of "people" have used the same one. What does that mean?
    Means nothing because I used a bot that was pulling my real phone info using ADB (It's a Note 3) and still got banned. There's no chance that anyone else was using my phone's ID.
    I'm not saying that phone ID isn't one of the criteria that they evaluate for a ban, but it must have something more like APK/IPA signature, or something on those lines. Anyway, these are just assumptions till proven right or wrong.

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    Originally Posted by deuxgod View Post
    Even if you have just one account, you bot in your area at a human like behaviour, they are still banning you. Don't you agree that something is fishy? Because till now they have been spot on banning cheaters, even if you don't use the account for a long time. If you used only apps to check IV, like pokeadvisor, as long as you log with your account you're banned sooner or later. Some info regarding what you use to login is being passed to their servers. At least that's what I think.
    Im quite agree with this. Once u login ur id with bot, even 1mnt or 1s, u have the chance to being banned too. I guess they check by those ID which use 3rd party before.

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    Originally Posted by deuxgod View Post
    Means nothing because I used a bot that was pulling my real phone info using ADB (It's a Note 3) and still got banned. There's no chance that anyone else was using my phone's ID.
    I'm not saying that phone ID isn't one of the criteria that they evaluate for a ban, but it must have something more like APK/IPA signature, or something on those lines. Anyway, these are just assumptions till proven right or wrong.
    If u use your real phone id and device info and run bot with 100k exp/hr - u should expect ban anyways

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    May I know what does i mean by "nox"? Thanks.

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    Originally Posted by faplo View Post
    If u use your real phone id and device info and run bot with 100k exp/hr - u should expect ban anyways
    How about using my real phone ID, farming in my house area (that has half a dozen pokestops and a dozen rattatas) at 20k exp/h and still getting banned? Cause that happened.

    NOX is a Android emulator for PC, so you can run POGO in your windows PC

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    Originally Posted by deuxgod View Post
    How about using my real phone ID, farming in my house area (that has half a dozen pokestops and a dozen rattatas) at 20k exp/h and still getting banned? Cause that happened.

    NOX is a Android emulator for PC, so you can run POGO in your windows PC
    Did you bot with only 1 account all the time (means no multi botting, not even signing in with another using the same device ID)? And no more than lets say 12 hrs / day?

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    Originally Posted by mrmadafaker View Post
    Did you bot with only 1 account all the time (means no m.ulti botting, not even signing in with another using the same device ID)? And no more than lets say 12 hrs / day?
    yep. Since my main was banned only made one account that was banned later on also.

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    The message I keep getting now on that "banned" account is "Unable to authenticate. Please try again."

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    First account was lvl 39 / Multiple max level 100IV pokemon = Banned during the first wave

    Second account level 26 used human like features / only botted for 8 hrs a day / slow walking speed = Worked fine when i stopped the bot but banned the next day

    Third account I went crazy with the config for max exp/pokemon = banned after using the bot only once

    Fourth account I did the same thing using necro with a crazy config including teleport = Only used once, currently level 21, still active (Hasn't been botted for the past day) will check again tomorrow if its still active.

    No idea whats causing the bans :confused:

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    Originally Posted by deuxgod View Post
    How about using my real phone ID, farming in my house area (that has half a dozen pokestops and a dozen rattatas) at 20k exp/h and still getting banned? Cause that happened.

    NOX is a Android emulator for PC, so you can run POGO in your windows PC
    Still if that bot was working all day or all night, pretty decent reason to ban since it's very strange that someone can farm for a long time

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