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    New issue started this week. On one out of 6 accounts, it always times out on changing characters. I tried doing it manually and it basically never loads up a character page (no matter how long I wait). My first thought was it was a gateway issue, BUT, all of my other accounts work fine and I tried out APBI and it works fine on that account.

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    Originally Posted by Darxide23 View Post
    I'm not sure what you just said.
    I said that APBinfinite grinds 24/7 very well, if bot process is restarted with script, I can left my Bot farm alone, no need daily or weekly check, no need Refine ADs by hand, no need look if memory leak is killed bot, no need check if Bot is crashed my PC, all is automated....

    ...so if you dont understand what I just say, keep APBUltimate online 24/7 without user interaction and with "autorefine ADs".

    ..and I can say it other way, "if you exchange small crap for bigger crap, where is your benefits?"

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    APBinfinite works better in my opinion. Only thing it is missing is a kill/restart switch that works if the tasks get stuck due to lag from gateway.

    Ultimate takes way to long to finish collecting and starting jobs. With 5-10 chars it might work good but with 50 chars it works terrible.

    Just my 5 cents.

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    Originally Posted by packetlossc View Post
    New issue started this week. On one out of 6 accounts, it always times out on changing characters. I tried doing it manually and it basically never loads up a character page (no matter how long I wait). My first thought was it was a gateway issue, BUT, all of my other accounts work fine and I tried out APBI and it works fine on that account.
    Bump the internal timer up to 20 and reduce the login timer to 10. Also, reboot your modem and router, at least once a week. I have noticed gateway timeouts, a lot due to constant switching of toons at a rapid pace. Another thing I have noticed is that running multiple bots on the same machine, causes slow downs. Also, a direct connect, rather than wifi seems have the best connection, but that could just be my situation.

    I talked to Base late last week. Real life is taking it's toll on him, so things like eating and paying bills are top priority over the bot. Be patient. He hasn't forgotten about us.

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    Originally Posted by Henrik Svensson View Post
    APBinfinite works better in my opinion. Only thing it is missing is a kill/restart switch that works if the tasks get stuck due to lag from gateway.
    Infinite did nothing for me except waste all of my gold and get stuck in endless loops without doing anything productive. It's a piece of garbage. APBU might be unfinished, but even in its current state, it's a million times better than Infinite. I'll gladly wait as long as it takes for BaseN to be able to implement the last few features and put the polish on it. It's worth it for a working bot.

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    Originally Posted by Methuselas View Post
    Bump the internal timer up to 20 and reduce the login timer to 10.
    I have 3 timers that I can change on the 'Settings' screen: Internal Loop Timeout, Base Loop Delay, & Relog Delay. I interpret 'internal timer' to be Internal Loop Delay. When you say "login timer", do you mean "Relog Delay"?

    Originally Posted by Methuselas View Post
    Also, reboot your modem and router, at least once a week. I have noticed gateway timeouts, a lot due to constant switching of toons at a rapid pace. Another thing I have noticed is that running multiple bots on the same machine, causes slow downs.
    IMHO, APBU is extremely reliable. I've not been able to get anything else to run as well. I run 6 instances with 2 toons each and only get the occasional hiccup where 1 or 2 will disconnect in the middle of the night. I have yet to experience any issues with memory since something else usually makes me reboot a few times a week anyway. I am really looking forward to the 0.4.0 release so I can get the optional assets involved.

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    Originally Posted by Darxide23 View Post
    Infinite did nothing for me except waste all of my gold and get stuck in endless loops without doing anything productive. It's a piece of garbage. APBU might be unfinished, but even in its current state, it's a million times better than Infinite. I'll gladly wait as long as it takes for BaseN to be able to implement the last few features and put the polish on it. It's worth it for a working bot.
    I use Infinite version with "Rotten" -script and all my Bots works well inside "VMware". Alchemy tasks needs "BUY" option and it works well, but you really need understand where you put that "BUY" -stuff line or get screwed like idiot. APBI also seems have some "nasty" bugs, but when Bots are killed/restarted by script per hour then offline time is reduced... I just keep my PC online.

    I wait Ultimate became good as its name says and then switch, but it really needs "autorefine" and "buy" option.



    "Nothing is perfect, but if you can avoid problems and get things work, then solution is best what you can have".

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    Originally Posted by Spaznetz View Post
    I have 3 timers that I can change on the 'Settings' screen: Internal Loop Timeout, Base Loop Delay, & Relog Delay. I interpret 'internal timer' to be Internal Loop Delay. When you say "login timer", do you mean "Relog Delay"?



    IMHO, APBU is extremely reliable. I've not been able to get anything else to run as well. I run 6 instances with 2 toons each and only get the occasional hiccup where 1 or 2 will disconnect in the middle of the night. I have yet to experience any issues with memory since something else usually makes me reboot a few times a week anyway. I am really looking forward to the 0.4.0 release so I can get the optional assets involved.
    My apologies, Spaz. Yeah, the internal loop time out needs to be raised. It makes gathering, checking of slots and starting jobs slower, but it's helped with spotty internet connections or gateway connections. The Base Loop Delay is the other one you want to change. That is the random timer between switching toons and restarting the loop. I have mine set to 10.

    Yeah, APBU is extremely reliable to me (for the most part, but I'm using the 4.0 alpha). I've got 1 account with 1 toon, 1 account with 4 toons, 1 account with 6 toons and 1 account with 2 toons. I do get the occasional memory leak, but I can't seem to find where it's coming from. One thing I HAVE noticed however is my 1 account with 1 toon, now no longer connects to the character selection. It just constantly stalls there. Just started like 2 days ago. It's the wife's account, so since she's not getting any AD, I'm not getting ANY, til I fix it. :P

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    Originally Posted by Methuselas View Post
    My apologies, Spaz. Yeah, the internal loop time out needs to be raised. It makes gathering, checking of slots and starting jobs slower, but it's helped with spotty internet connections or gateway connections. The Base Loop Delay is the other one you want to change. That is the random timer between switching toons and restarting the loop. I have mine set to 10.
    No apologies necessary, just trying to make sure we are all talking the same terminology.

    I have my Base Loop Delay set at much higher numbers (some @ 2845 and some @ 3545) so that APBU looks at the jobs about every 45 minutes to an hour. I am running longer jobs purely on Leadership just to level and gather AD so nothing is under 1.5 hours. I set it high under the assumption (maybe mistaken) that PW/Cryptic would be more likely to flag an account as a bot if it were running 6 hour jobs (or something similar) but still cycling through toons 4-5 times every minute. Opinions/thoughts?

    Originally Posted by Methuselas View Post
    It's the wife's account, so since she's not getting any AD, I'm not getting ANY, til I fix it. :P
    Some days I wish my wife gamed so she understood. Other days I can see the drawbacks

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    Originally Posted by Spaznetz View Post
    No apologies necessary, just trying to make sure we are all talking the same terminology.

    I have my Base Loop Delay set at much higher numbers (some @ 2845 and some @ 3545) so that APBU looks at the jobs about every 45 minutes to an hour. I am running longer jobs purely on Leadership just to level and gather AD so nothing is under 1.5 hours. I set it high under the assumption (maybe mistaken) that PW/Cryptic would be more likely to flag an account as a bot if it were running 6 hour jobs (or something similar) but still cycling through toons 4-5 times every minute. Opinions/thoughts?
    Truthfully, Cryptic/PW probably don't care. If they did, they would have put a stop to the PvP/PvE bots a long time ago. I wouldn't worry about it. That is a great idea, though. How does it work, when you have 3 jobs that end roughly at the same time? I have OCDs, though. All my toons have to have 20 in all the professions, so if I need something, I can just jump to the toon with open jobs. XD


    Some days I wish my wife gamed so she understood. Other days I can see the drawbacks
    Meh.She's run off with a guild leader to play Terra and only logs in to pray 'cos she's about a month away from getting her Angel. Scandalous, I tell you.

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    Originally Posted by Methuselas View Post
    How does it work, when you have 3 jobs that end roughly at the same time?
    As an example, I have 3 accounts that each have 2 toons just for long-term AD production. I never play them, just log in daily to invoke for the AD/XP. I ran each toon up to level 10 and then put APBU in charge. At this point, they are all level 26 (Just on Invoke & Leadership Task XP) at ~ level 14 Leadership. They all run Battle Undead x 3 with Guards (saving every AD to get Heroes on my main). I set Internal Loop Timeout to 10 seconds with Max Timeouts set to 5. I also set it to Relog after 5 timeouts because I sometimes have network issues. My Base Loop Delay on these is set to 3545. The added few seconds for the randomizer gets me 6 cycles that add up to the 6 hour time for the task. I am hoping that a future release of APBU will allow values more than 4 digits for the Loop Delay to account for longer tasks, but it's not that big a deal and pretty far down on the wish list.

    On the toons I actually play, it gets a bit more complicated because of more than 3 slots and the 3x task limit. What I end up doing is looking at the tasks on a particular account and trying to come up with a Base Loop Delay that divides evenly into the times for all of them. As an example, on one account I have one toon running 3 x Fight Off Spellplagued, 1 x Patrol the Mines, and 1 x Assemble Maps/Chart Region/Explore Local Area all with Adventurers and a second toon running 3 x Battle Undead and 1 x Protect Market with Guards. On this account, I set the Base Loop Delay to 2845. That gives me ~47 minutes between cycles. It catches the 2 hour tasks that are shortened by using Adventurers on the second time around and isn't too much over on the 6 hour tasks going the full time with the Guards.

    It isn't perfect, but it beats the hell out of trying to remember all those intervals on my own
    Last edited by Spaznetz; 05-10-2014 at 12:28 AM. Reason: Clarification (I hope)

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    So, how do you get this to work with blackice shaping?

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    Originally Posted by packetlossc View Post
    So, how do you get this to work with blackice shaping?
    BaseN would need to add that to the program. I would think it will be a while for it to get added. Not speaking for BaseN just saying that I don't see it getting added right away.

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    Originally Posted by qmancan View Post
    BaseN would need to add that to the program. I would think it will be a while for it to get added. Not speaking for BaseN just saying that I don't see it getting added right away.
    Anyone know of any better scripts/apps that are actively being worked on that supports black ice shaping? Looks like this one is now retired.

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    Originally Posted by packetlossc View Post
    Anyone know of any better scripts/apps that are actively being worked on that supports black ice shaping? Looks like this one is now retired.
    BaseN, has NOT retired. If you bothered to read previous posts, you'd see that I had spoken to him and REAL LIFE is smacking him around right now. Stop spreading fud, when you know nothing about the situation.

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