Immortal Bot - brief review and short guide

[zibiam]

We all have our hopes, but them shutting down entire site and not giveing anyone any info on whats to come dosnt realy look good in my eyes. Sites bin down for like 1.5 weeks, some random msg on frontpage bin changed evry now and then but nothing usefull. Its not that hard to say if your going to contiune to work on it or not. Think he owes the rest of us that stuck with em that much.

[Wakizashi]

The author is not entirely blameless and the people who have requested chargebacks are not entirely guilty.

I feel that he could have easily avoided a large percentage of the paypal chargebacks if he actually communicated (at all) with his paying customers.

Not communicating and not keeping the site and forums online at all times is not exactly confidence inspiring to anyone who paid for "lifetime support"
that has actually only "lived" for less than 1 to 2 months depending on when you bought IB.

If the author brought the forums back online NOW and gave an estimated time for the update to be published, even if it was 1 or 2 more days away,
I honestly believe that he will be able to prevent the occurrence of another large number of paypal chargebacks just by actually saying something.

It would be beyond stupid for him not to do something like that, if he actually intends to continue supporting his educational product.

[Fadeous]

I've made alot I get annoyed with no communication but hey stuff happends. Lol he will update it when he has the time and can have faith

[kinglahiho]

If its not working by next monday ill chargeback also, ive been using it 1month and thats not lifetime for me atleast. :/

[Hallucinate666]

The message on the site changed to "July 11, 2012 - We wish we could respond now, sorry for the delay. "

I don't think it's quite dead yet.

[Wakizashi]

The message on the site changed to "July 11, 2012 - We wish we could respond now, sorry for the delay. "

I don't think it's quite dead yet.

Realistically speaking, I think we should reserve that assessment for when the website and forums actually come back online, or the author actually becomes communicative or contactable again.

Heck, he could even create an account and update us here, if he's still alive.

[Tomed]

It's very likely that there are legal reasons for why he's not communicating.

[candulor]

It's very likely that there are legal reasons for why he's not communicating.

^^^^^^^^^^^ this.

[Wakizashi]

It's very likely that there are legal reasons for why he's not communicating.

I don't see how it's at all likely really, and if you've ever been involved in a civil suit,
or engaged the services of a lawyer you wouldn't either.


The way it works is really much closer to:

After their investigators have taken notice of your bot and after you start to generate substantial revenue, they find your
address and particulars and after consulting their in house legal department, they need to arrange for the suit to be
brought in a foreign country, because I seriously doubt Blizzard/Activision/Vivendi sues EU Citizens on any regular basis.

If they use incredibly efficient and very expensive lawyers (quite likely) approximately 24 - 48 hours after Blizzard places
a retainer fee, they will show up at your doorstep to hand deliver you a nice letter, after which you will quickly go find the
best lawyer you can realistically afford and start collecting every single dollar you can get your hands on.

After you hand this large pile of money over to your lawyer, you need to quickly figure out
where to get at least five or six more piles of money just like it.

This will go on for several weeks likely with a visit or two more to your lawyer with some piles of cash.

Then after a period of at least 6 - 24 months you might have to show up in court,
most lawyers are more than happy to keep postponing hearings and court appointments for as long as humanly possible,
and many lawyers practice exclusively in this manner.

This gives them more time to procrastinate on your case as well as maximizes their billable hours
and ensures a steady flow of your cash piles into their pockets.

There is no way possible in any country in the Eurozone for a suit to be brought to court and an injunction delivered in anywhere close to the time
that has passed since all communications were essentially halted.

I won't go into too much speculation, but I would definitely prefer if he or an appointed representative would appear out of nowhere to suddenly communicate though, most of his customers would too I reckon, at least the ones that haven't charged back.

Honestly speaking, short of DB selling their licenses tomorrow at IB's Pre-May 28th licensing price (Unlimited number of clients on one PC with Lifetime Support for a one time payment of Euro$30.00) I think all his customers would REALLY prefer that he starts talking and/or updating the bot instead of having to initiate a paypal chargeback.

I've not made huge sums of money, but I've made enough to pay for the client, so technically I don't lose money.

It's just that I don't enjoy not getting anything close to what was agreed upon and paid for when I pay for a service or product,
and neither should you if you're rational.

[br3edage]

there getting sued and are trying to delay your chargebacks to make as much money as possible before announcing that there taking the bot down.

[Tomed]

I don't see how it's at all likely really, and if you've ever been involved in a civil suit,
or engaged the services of a lawyer you wouldn't either.

I made the Deckard Coin bot and received several phone calls from Blizzard's legal department so I kind of have some experience with this type of situation.

[KuRIoS]

there getting sued and are trying to delay your chargebacks to make as much money as possible before announcing that there taking the bot down.

You like to have sex with animals and you are writing here pretending to be a nerd because you need an alternative lifestyle..


see I can pretend I know crap about another person, when in reality I dont..

THAT BEING SAID; take your tinfoil hats and go discuss it in general section.

[empr]

It's very likely that there are legal reasons for why he's not communicating.

**** tha police

[sycksyn]

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[Markn12]

and he gave just that he did not say that updates and support would be forever

2 months is not lifetime anywhere near it. If it was 6 months a year or even if he was open about why its down or not updated I would be like well that sucks but i accept that. Charging back isnt about the bot its about him and the support he is not giving don't you understand that ?