[Project] World of Warcraft: The Emerald Dream Expansion Set! READ!

[Toyoka]

Be my guest, Emillo

And I'm glad that you didn't take my post the wrong way YourMomsAHorde Good luck!

[YourMomsAHorde]

I never said I was gonna make a copy of stormwind :P

and the video for Mazzell is at YouTube - How to: Delete WoW Warden

[Breakdawn]

But tbh, mmowned model editing section for advanced model edits, is not your official notesblok, it's here you post WIP's or showoff's..

[Mazzel]

You said you want to control warden, not that you want to delete it and enter randomtexts that won't do anything for you. But hey, good luck, I bet we won't hear anything about this project in at least one month, but good luck anyways!
Quick btw: You do not have control over warden. You.Can.Not.Get.Warden.To.Work.For.You. Prove me wrong. Your video didn't prove anything. Over and out, laughed enough. :P

[kingsquid]

Mate, Alot of this shit is not possible to be honest. For example....Making the top floor of the tower accessible. It was never available so theres nothing there. If you flew into the top floor of the tower in Stormwind you go right through it. You have some great ideas but lets face it mate. A lot of them are not realistic...

[YourMomsAHorde]

Ever since the project was recently merged with another expansion project, Warcraft: Awakenings, the project and user feedback has been getting better and better. Now we have an announcement: We have an official ModDB.com page! Moddb is a website where professional modders put their mods, which pretty much means our mod is considered professional!

We will be using ModDB.com until we get our website up. We'll notify you when the website is running

And, of course, the link: World of Warcraft: The Emerald Dream mod - Mod DB

Thanks for your time!
-Robert Lane, Creator of the World of Warcraft Emerald Dream expansion set.

P.S. if a mod sees it fit, please move this thread. I keep posting things related to this project here because I am not sure where it goes. Thanks!

[Breakdawn]

Put it in the general forum if you don't know where to put it.. Common sense really..


PS: I see you used screenshots from bloomfalls, I guess he is working with you ?

[fredalbob]

So what exactly do you need? I'm interested.

[YourMomsAHorde]

@Emillo
He's kinda working for us, he's helping make awesome weapons

@fredalbob
We pretty much need everything xD The team consists of me, a couple of friends (4 to be exact) and bloomfalls (sort-of, he doesn't want to be included even though he's helping us) and of course our 331 fans that visited the page today (not lying, I checked the stats. Of course, half of them were probably haters, and the other half only offers support, they dont help build or anything.)

[Breakdawn]

As far as the website tells me when I spend time looking around on it, it's not ONLY your server and it's not ONLY world of warcraft that people visit it for It's used by thousands of daily visitors, maybe that's a good reason that you get that many views Not because they like it, or hate it. But because the website is used by tons of people

[tkoreaper]

Blizz might do it just to make money, but I do it to make people happy >:0

Fine, for now, the game if free.

Every single business is out to make money otherwise there would be no point. Making the assumption that blizzard is ONLY doing it for the money is a very invalid thought. You might be only charging $5 for your so called "expansion", but the question is "Is it worth the money?". Blizzard charges the standard price for their expansions (about $50) and while that may seem like a nice chunk of change to a few, it's a very reasonable price considering how much work is put into the game. Is it worth the $50? Of course. In fact, it's worth more IMO. Blizzard may make millions of dollars, but how much of that goes to paying their employees and server costs. Blizzard is by no means stealing people's money which is what you're trying to say.

[Sabelo]

tkoreaper....haha, you dont get it do you? Alot more than 10 million people pay 10 dollars(?) each month to blizzard. How much is that?
1 000 000 x 10 = *pick up calculator* hmmm.... 10 000 000
Blizzard get 10 000 000 a month?

By the time it takes for blizzard to create a small little patch (5 months for like 3 instances?) I think that they have less than 30 employees on creating patches and they might get 2k$ a month maybe. like normal I gues..... time for some math again
30 x 2 000 = 60 000 dollars a month for the patchers
they might have maybe 150 people working on cataclysm I got no idea how many people it usualy is working on a game calculate again
150 x 2 000 = 300 000
add them together
360 000 dollars a month to pay for everybody develops there and maybe they pay some gamemasters too... dunno lets add to exagurate alot 300 000 for game masters
660 000 dollars a month to pay for everybody working on wow including gm's.

Now...
10 000 000 - 660 000 = 9 440 000

So they have 9 440 000 left each month
Ok servers cost a bit too.....but probably not over 500 000$ each month....dunno tho... that leaves blizzard with about 9 000 000$ each month...who gets them? Maybe the high cheif? So do blizzard need money? naah....they could give every employee a raise and make wow free for 10 years and still they whould have earned cash on wow.

Anyways I dont know how much $ is worth and dont know how much a gamecard cost in $ so...anyways theese might not be very accurate but the point is that the guys that work at blizzard is not overpayed (they get as much as they whould get working for another company), so the company realy have alot of cash at their dissposal. Imo they should hire some more people working on the patches and the expansion...because they dont have a bigger crew than other games even tho they earn ALOT!

Now I have been writing this post for like 10 minutes and I realy wasted my time. :P

[schlumpf]

Ok servers cost a bit too.....but probably not over 500 000$ each month....dunno tho... that leaves blizzard with about 9 000 000$ each month

Bullshit. They have "a few more" working for them and "a few more costs" for servers. Also customer support eats up "some cash". Think about what you say please.
They earn some money, but not shitloads like this.

On your notebook - I finally took some time during some lecture:

1. Use cataclysm starter world/models/textures/doodads (sorry, note to self)

Fine.

2.Outland is unchanged in normal play, put inside of the emerald dream it is referred to as Draenor and it is the peaceful continent shared by the orcs and draenei that it once was (lore much? and note: using hellfire -->draenor area change on mmowned.com)

Note: You may want to talk to people making edits and not just take them.

3. All race/class combo's are available.

Fine, some database editing and some minor tweaks to client and server.

4. Rogues can have minions/pets.

Possible, but I don't really see any sense here. Requires some more changes in client and server. Might be a bit complicated.

5. Old IF is now accessable from the kings chambers in Ironforge.

Requires editing a WMO. No tools for that as of now. Happy hex editing.

6. New Realmlist (yaay )

*claps* I never would have thought about that. Its really a big part..

7. Flying mounts everywhere (outland, Azeroth, south seas islands, Maelstorm, Emerald Dream, Other areas yet to be implemented. (forget that, just learned flying mounts are available everywhere in cataclysm.)
8.Hyjal is accessable. (forget that too, also just learned that it was accessable in cataclysm.)

If its in and you are ashamed, just don't list it here..

9. Mounting and trading items is allowed in dungeons/raids.

Trading items is allowed. Cross-realm-dungeons do not. You won't have more than one realm anyway, so no problem here. Also, I don't think that emulators even have such functionality to prevent it implemented. Mounting? Indoors? Requires changes to spell databases, might be a bit stupid at some places, but oh well .. If you want people riding and exploiting in dungeons, go ahead.

10. Exploring is encouraged! Feel free to tell us about any cool hidded areas- we like exploring, too!

Another quality point to a concept.

11. Karazhan crypt is re-opened, so you guys don't have to go through all that trouble using hearthstone/auto unstuck. The Stormwind instance is reopened, too.

Requires WMO editing, should be a simple one tho. No big point for an expansion tho as its just a few rooms. (yeaaaah!) I hope you really mean the second map with Stormwind on it, but if not, I don't have an idea what you want to reopen as there never was a instance closed there. The unused instance portal never had an instance connected and will be removed.

12. Referring back to note 5, also the door on the right (if your going in to The High Seat) leads to a tunnel to IF airport. The door on the left (also if your going in) goes to Old IF (with the purple crystals? lol)

Happy editing that in. Haha.

13. Stormwind catsly is updated, and you can walk in, go up to the top floor of the top tower, and you will find a lore library (pretty cool, eh?)

As already pointed out: How the **** would you go about that?

14. New character customization options.

How will you do that? Edit and add geosets to existing, animated models? I do not think you will be able to do that. Documentation is little on that topic (existant tho) and tools are bad.

15. Elwynn falls is accessable (both versions)

Clapping again. I haven't seen any ED related change yet somehow.

16. Level cap raised to 100.

And what is your content for the now missing 15 levels? Nothing? What are your new abilities?

17. New content (bosses, dungeons, raids, locations, races/classes, story, etc.)

Oh, that point I was waiting for. And what is your concept for these locations? Any plans? "Add awesome content." is not part of a serious plan.

18. Pandaren race added to alliance and Murloc added to horde.

This requires animated models of these races as well as customization features and equipping options. It also means, you will have to adjust a few hundred models (helmets, shoulders). Adding a completely new race from scratch has never been done and won't work. Completely impossible.

19 New bosses: Ysera (and all the other emerald dragon guardians, faced in the Emerald Palace) THE KRAKEN (maelstrom) The Embalmer + Stitches (Deadwind Caverns)

Uhmk.

20. New raids: Emerald Palace, Twisting Nether, Deadwind Caverns.

Again, any real plans for those yet or just names?

21. New BG's, "The Battle for Mount Hyjal" "Air Support" and "Wetlands Plateu".

Nice names, yep. Reusing an raid instance for a BG just because there are no raiders on your server is a bit odd to me tho.

22. Teldrassil: Frozen and snowy.

Thats a thing you can do! Start now!

23. New mounts: New two person mount, the camel.

Which is made by BLizzard, not by you. No point for you.

24. Railways: In case gryphon masters are busy or you just want a change of scenery. Invented by gnomes for alliance and goblins for horde.

Happy implementing that. Requires models in masses as well as some understanding about how transports work in WoW. I do not think you know.

25. Warden only runs scans inside or WoW directory, not outside of it like it used to. (don't think you can get away with running internet based hacks, our player GM team will catch you, verify that you have not been given GM authority, and give you a 3-day suspension (we will NEVER delete accounts, ever.)

HAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA. I ****ing laughed. You really have no idea what you are talking about. Oh, and btw: Putting an empty scan.dll does not even nearly remove or change warden.

26. Only epic/legendary items can now be soulbound, everything else can now be sold/traded.

Oh well, thats one single SQL query on an existing database. Congratulations.

27. The Emerald Dream can be accessed by The World Portals (i.e. in Duskwood) but those are guarded by the dragons such as Ysera, so you might have better luck if you asked a mage to create a portal for you, or if you went to the outland and gained access to the materials needed to engineer a portal device, or, if you've attained the "The Emerald Sleep" debuff, you can use the /sleep emote to enter the Emerald Dream for as long as the debuff lasts.

We finally are at your main point in the whole thing. Its a few lines at point 27. The ****? Isn't this what your expansion is about? Maybe plan and focus a bit about this. Great plan about how to enter it tho. What is in there again? You really have an expansion and only see its content for some limited time during being debuffed? I don't really get this. We have had a quest like this in Icecrown. If you do it like this, you are going to fukken fail. Big time.

28. The IF airport flightmaster now offers a flight path. Finally! There is also a gnome mount vendor placed in the area that sells flyable gnome plane mounts.

Ten minute job. *claps* Maybe you should think about how flight paths work and what you have to do to add a new point. Its a bit more work than you expect, I guess. There are no tools for this once again.

29. Outside of the emerald dream, Orcs have become Irradiated with the Fel plague and have become fel orcs. Inside, however, they have their normal appearance, aside from the fact that they are peaceful and share draenor with the draenei (wait... did I already mention this?)

So just a full time model change for all orcs. Good, that's one hidden debuff and some scripting. You can do that as its not really much work.

30. The "Essence of Wintergrasp" buff is now only available in Wintergrasp.

Hmk. I don't see any sense in collecting shards in Wintergrasp only, but okay, limit it to that area. Isn't that old content now anyway as you added fifteen levels as well as the whole emerald dream? Why do you care about old content so much?

31. You can access Draenor by swimming/flying from the emerald dream. Also, draenei have created Time Portals (more portals? Portal magick makes my head hurt :/) which allow you to go back into the time period of outland BEFORE it became outland, and before it shattered into a million peices and was known as draenor.

God, thats "a few" locations you have to work on then. Happy mapping. It might take years. Go ahead, in that time, we don't have to care about you and you will stop yourself soon enough then anyway. Tools are not ready for changes that big.

32. You will enter the Twisting Nether if you fall off the world or jump off outlands or do something of the likes, you can ressurrect by speaking with the spirit shamen inside the Twisting Nether. (finding the shamen is a challenge, though, so watch out!) After you've spoken with him, you will be teleported to where you were 5 seconds before you jumped, depleted or your resources and with 25% health.

God, that really sucks, to be honest. But well, if you want to piss off people falling down that much, go ahead. Why would I want to go there if all I have there is fighting, finding the stupid spirit healer and get out? Seems like nonsense to me.

All in all: New content? Description of that? More planning on the expansion itself and not on stupid modifications to old content. Also please think about what _you_ can do and what tools are capable of. More than half of your plans are not doable and the other half is bullshit.

Sorry, but this will fail a lot. But go ahead and give us some laughs. But I can tell you, that you will never make money with this bullshit.

Edit:

Now I have been writing this post for like 10 minutes and I realy wasted my time. :P

Now I have been writing this post for like 30 minutes and I really wasted my time. ._.

[Bjarke]

Agree with schlumpf.

[Breakdawn]

I also doubt bloomfalls is helping people without a system in their projects And I also know he is harsh at people using his items without permission :P