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    World of Warcraft: The Emerald Dream - Notebook ideas so far

    Moderator note: I don't know if this belongs here. If not please move it. Thanks

    Anyway:

    Hello! I'm sure you all know of my other post (http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-...-set-read.html) and if you dont, please read that. But anyhoo, I want to post my notebook of ideas that I have so far. Feel free to leave a comment about disliking or liking an idea, or even suggest a new one.

    1. Use cataclysm starter world/models/textures/doodads (sorry, note to self)

    2.Outland is unchanged in normal play, put inside of the emerald dream it is referred to as Draenor and it is the peaceful continent shared by the orcs and draenei that it once was (lore much? and note: using hellfire -->draenor area change on mmowned.com)

    3. All race/class combo's are available.

    4. Rogues can have minions/pets.

    5. Old IF is now accessable from the kings chambers in Ironforge.

    6. New Realmlist (yaay )

    7. Flying mounts everywhere (outland, Azeroth, south seas islands, Maelstorm, Emerald Dream, Other areas yet to be implemented. (forget that, just learned flying mounts are available everywhere in cataclysm.)

    8.Hyjal is accessable. (forget that too, also just learned that it was accessable in cataclysm.)

    9. Mounting and trading items is allowed in dungeons/raids.

    10. Exploring is encouraged! Feel free to tell us about any cool hidded areas- we like exploring, too!

    11. Karazhan crypt is re-opened, so you guys don't have to go through all that trouble using hearthstone/auto unstuck. The Stormwind instance is reopened, too.

    12. Referring back to note 5, also the door on the right (if your going in to The High Seat) leads to a tunnel to IF airport. The door on the left (also if your going in) goes to Old IF (with the purple crystals? lol)

    13. Stormwind catsly is updated, and you can walk in, go up to the top floor of the top tower, and you will find a lore library (pretty cool, eh?)

    14. New character customization options.

    15. Elwynn falls is accessable (both versions)

    16. Level cap raised to 100.

    17. New content (bosses, dungeons, raids, locations, races/classes, story, etc.)

    18. Pandaren race added to alliance and Murloc added to horde.

    19 New bosses: Ysera (and all the other emerald dragon guardians, faced in the Emerald Palace) THE KRAKEN (maelstrom) The Embalmer + Stitches (Deadwind Caverns)

    20. New raids: Emerald Palace, Twisting Nether, Deadwind Caverns.

    21. New BG's, "The Battle for Mount Hyjal" "Air Support" and "Wetlands Plateu".

    22. Teldrassil: Frozen and snowy.

    23. New mounts: New two person mount, the camel.

    24. Railways: In case gryphon masters are busy or you just want a change of scenery. Invented by gnomes for alliance and goblins for horde.

    25. Warden only runs scans inside or WoW directory, not outside of it like it used to. (don't think you can get away with running internet based hacks, our player GM team will catch you, verify that you have not been given GM authority, and give you a 3-day suspension (we will NEVER delete accounts, ever.)

    26. Only epic/legendary items can now be soulbound, everything else can now be sold/traded.

    27. The Emerald Dream can be accessed by The World Portals (i.e. in Duskwood) but those are guarded by the dragons such as Ysera, so you might have better luck if you asked a mage to create a portal for you, or if you went to the outland and gained access to the materials needed to engineer a portal device, or, if you've attained the "The Emerald Sleep" debuff, you can use the /sleep emote to enter the Emerald Dream for as long as the debuff lasts.

    28. The IF airport flightmaster now offers a flight path. Finally! There is also a gnome mount vendor placed in the area that sells flyable gnome plane mounts.

    29. Outside of the emerald dream, Orcs have become Irradiated with the Fel plague and have become fel orcs. Inside, however, they have their normal appearance, aside from the fact that they are peaceful and share draenor with the draenei (wait... did I already mention this?)

    30. The "Essence of Wintergrasp" buff is now only available in Wintergrasp.

    31. You can access Draenor by swimming/flying from the emerald dream. Also, draenei have created Time Portals (more portals? Portal magick makes my head hurt :/) which allow you to go back into the time period of outland BEFORE it became outland, and before it shattered into a million peices and was known as draenor.

    32. You will enter the Twisting Nether if you fall off the world or jump off outlands or do something of the likes, you can ressurrect by speaking with the spirit shamen inside the Twisting Nether. (finding the shamen is a challenge, though, so watch out!) After you've spoken with him, you will be teleported to where you were 5 seconds before you jumped, depleted or your resources and with 25% health.

    ---------- Post added at 11:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:12 AM ----------

    Sorry, forgot to tag my original post :/

    [Project] World of Warcraft: The Emerald Dream Expansion Set! READ!
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    WRONG SECTION JESUS CHRIST! Is it that hard to understand? oh my ****ing god....

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    Most things aren't even there anymore as cataclysm comes out. So decide: WOTLK or Cataclysm? There is no second SW instance anymore in Cataclysm. The whole stormwind has been updated and isn't 90% texture but 100% mesh now. Several other things that aren't goign to be possible so to be honest -please re-consider this and get some knowledge about cataclysm. This is no flame, this is trying to tell you the obvious.

    25. Warden only runs scans inside or WoW directory, not outside of it like it used to. (don't think you can get away with running internet based hacks, our player GM team will catch you, verify that you have not been given GM authority, and give you a 3-day suspension (we will NEVER delete accounts, ever.)
    You do not have any control about warden. In no ways.

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    Or if you want to make your own expansion. Either decide if it's an "expansion" to the existing world, a new world, or a completely change of the entire game content..

    Meaning in simple words:
    Do you want 100% custom world?
    or do you want the retail world + a content(like an huge island wtih size of northrend, and call it.. southeastrend or something)
    or you want the world as it is now, just with different mountains, new textures and new races joining the alliances in azeroth.

    That's something you got to choose before you choose to think it all through. Those 3 different types of expansion edits is the base of your project.. PLEASE do not forget to choose what you want

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    *eyeroll*

    I said if a mod found it in the wrong section he/she should move it.

    Also, about 12 & 1/2% of what Mazzel said wasnt clear, and 75 & 1/2% wasnt right.

    ---------- Post added at 12:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:01 PM ----------

    also, in response to Emillo,

    Did you even read half of my notes?

    Theres the retail world which you start in, starting with cataclysm maps, (and a few minor area change/texture edits) and then you go into the emerald dream, and the outland isnt outland, its draenor, and the emerald dream is the whole of azeroth, but not split up into continents.

    So pretty much its a whole other world, put in with the retail world. And aa lot of changes made to it.

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    Originally Posted by YourMomsAHorde View Post
    *eyeroll*

    I said if a mod found it in the wrong section he/she should move it.

    Also, about 12 & 1/2% of what Mazzel said wasnt clear, and 75 & 1/2% wasnt right.
    What exactly isn't clear? That I told you your ideas aren't possible like you want them because the things you want to change/open won't be in anymore ? Or that I told you that you don't have control over warden in any ways ?
    Do you even have a team ? And no, you and your three friends aren't a team. I'm talking about an experienced team, people with developing-knowledge and model editors with enough experience.

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    Ofcourse I didn't read it, it's in the wrong section and it doesn't seem that there is any system in it according to the previous post :/

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    [QUOTE=Mazzel;1893201]Most things aren't even there anymore as cataclysm comes out. So decide: WOTLK or Cataclysm? There is no second SW instance anymore in Cataclysm. The whole stormwind has been updated and isn't 90% texture but 100% mesh now. Several other things that aren't goign to be possible so to be honest -please re-consider this and get some knowledge about cataclysm. This is no flame, this is trying to tell you the obvious.

    First of all, If the things get removed, couldn't I just put them back in? Yes.
    What the hell do you mean about "choose: wotlk or cataclysm?"
    There is no SW instance in cataclysm. Can't I add it back?
    The whole stormwind has been updated and isn't 90% texture but 100% mesh now. So?
    About my cataclysm knowledge: I may not know as much as most about it, but I'm on up there, I know enough.
    And about the warden: I can modify it if I want to, I know how.

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    I won't bitch it anymore, Good Luck YourMomsAHorde Sounds cool now that I read it.. Hard and requires more than 3 people.. But Really cool :P *grins*

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    No you can not put something like the second stormwind instance back in as it's completely gone in the WMO. (at least you can't make it look like it did before. Just because the structurs changed. It wouldn't fit.)
    No you can not modify warden. Prove me wrong. You. Can. Not.
    Not even going to try to discuss with you, I already noticed it's like talking to a wall. Good luck anyways.
    Last edited by Mazzel; 06-09-2010 at 12:24 PM.

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    Thanks Emillo

    And Mazzel? I'll upload a vid to youtube. just to PROVE you wrong.

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    Adding a second stormwind in cataclysm version requires that:

    You copy an ADT.

    You go to the real stormwind's adt, then you copy the fileinfo (if I'm right, but I may be wrong because i'm just guessing lol) with cryects tools

    You put it into your new ADT and pop LoadInfo :P Then it should be copied.. or something fantasticly amazing like that xD /facepalm xD

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    Here's the thing with selling ideas (in this case, your "expansion"); ideas are a dime a dozen. But you cannot sell ideas alone, no matter how epic they are. You need dedication, design documents, plans, a team, and most important of all: a reputation amongst the people. A "crowd", if you will. As well, it isn't really a good idea to sell something if no body has seen any of your work.

    Think of it like this: There's this 'make-it-yourself' pizza shop that gives away free pizzas, and a lot of people like the pizzas that certain people (who have been there for a long time and are known by the regular visitors in the shop) make. Now imagine someone totally new, totally random comes in and says "Hey guys, I'll make the best pizza in the world..." but he wouldn't be the first one to do this. Then he goes on saying "... but if you really like it, you will have to buy it!". The thing is, the pizza shop gives away free pizzas, and everything is supplied by the owner. If the owner sees others making a profit out of the pizzas made by some random visitor, he wouldn't be too happy about it (neither would the rest of the visitors). Basically the point is this: you're new here, you have no work to show, and you're as ambitious as many others here who have attempted to make an expansion (but they have either failed or stalled too long to grab any more interest). You don't have anything to go on. Making an expansion, let alone a model edit, takes a fair amount of dedication. One cannot simply say "I am going to make an epic landscape" and expect it to magically be created for them. No, no, no, it takes more than just words to get things done! Work is the real magic behind it all Start out small, my friend. I know it sounds cliche, and it is. But that's how everyone starts; small. Work your way to bigger and better creations, and when you are settled, you can then create your expansion.

    Heed those words, fellow user of MMOwned. Not as a rude gesture, but as thoughtful advice (also, I apologize for the crappy analogy :P). For every idea that comes to mind, 10 more are created within the blink of an eye. No idea alone is solid, but with work and dedication even the worst ideas can turn into wonderful creations.

    Now for all that is said, you can take it with a grain of salt. That is your choice. I'm just telling you something I learned from experience and something I think everyone should have the privilege to know and understand.

    ~ "When you find it hard doing right in what you do, you've got a problem" ~

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    Fine words, May I use this as a quote on a guide i'm about to write? Because it's the truth

    love on toyoka for being epic

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    Toyoka, you're epic.

    Even though I completely get what your saying, your pizza... thing... has a hole. The pizza shop makes free pizzas. Blizzard does not.

    I'm gonna write a book about you someday XD

    EDIT: Oh, I get it, the pizza shop is MMOwned.com! I'm stupid.

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