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    BanzBoyz77's Avatar Contributor
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    It wasn't a troll, just seems awfully familiar to shadowmourne with a new skin. If so that would label this as a reskin not a new model, you can tell me if it is but here's my idea of what's going on



    A few small changes but it is obvious Magmadeep came from Shadowmourne to me. And Xel has confronted people about labels in their thread names and the model edit experts do it too so what difference is there here. Just making sure your properly labeling your threads.
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    DeathtoDeathwing, it's been on the frontpage, I bet they would have confronted the OP by then if it was wrong Just a thought I had ofcourse xD

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    Originally Posted by DeathToDeathwing77 View Post
    It wasn't a troll, just seems awfully familiar to shadowmourne with a new skin. If so that would label this as a reskin not a new model, you can tell me if it is but here's my idea of what's going on



    A few small changes but it is obvious Magmadeep came from Shadowmourne to me. And Xel has confronted people about labels in their thread names and the model edit experts do it too so what difference is there here. Just making sure your properly labeling your threads.
    Yeah, they look alike. When I first conceptualized the weapon I was thinking of something that mixed Shadowmourne with Sulfuras, so they're conceptually similar.

    But since you insist, here we go:

    1) The shape of the blade is entirely different. There's nothing in common. That's not even "editable" as I would ruin the UV-Mapping in such ways that it would take 10 times as long to edit than it took me to model.

    2) The skull is shaped differently. The shape is completely different, the poly-count is entirely different, the skull in my model is mirrored, the horns in Shadowmourne are different. They have nothing in common from a technical point-of-view.

    3) The top is open in shadowmourne and is mirrored uv in both axis, as is the rest of the handle. My handle has a continuous texture as well.

    4) All the little details such as the spikes, the shape of the handle are completely different.

    It boggles my mind that this was even a thought to be considered given how obviously different the mesh from both models are.

    Yes, the two weapons look alike, conceptually. Their models, however, have no correlation whatsoever. The only part that could be the same is the back of the blade and it wasn't on purpose, I guess it was just a convergence of ideas. The whole model is so basic that if I were to edit it from Shadowmourne to what I wanted I would take much longer, and God knows how long it would take me to get the UV right.

    And even if for some suicidal reason I had imported the model and decided to edit it, how would it qualify as a reskin anyway? The model itself is entirely different. I haven't seen the UV from Shadowmourne but from what I've seen from Blizzard, these UVs are probably so different that you might have more luck trying to put a house texture on Shadowmourne and see it fit. So:

    1) The models are completely different, both in silhouette, shape, polycount and mesh. No single part of the models are equivalent in any way whatsoever when it comes down to how the polygons are distributed or how many polygons are there. For what's worth, I bet the Shadowmourne is much better than mine at this.

    2) The UVs are as different as they can be and do not fit.

    3) The texture is as different as it can be.


    How is this a reskin exactly?

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    KK let me rephrase now: at first it seemed like you took shadowmourne and tweeked it. After reading a comment about reskining Shadow's Edge to Magmadeep, I took a look at Shadow's Edge and that looks more similar to Magmadeep than Shadowmourne. Considering now that Shadow's Edge didn't have the skull shape on it and it didn't have horns, this is a new model then. Your easiest explaination to convince me instead of that long paragraph would have just been to say it is a remade Shadow's Edge. To me adding a skull and horns to something that once didn't have them is a new model then, cause that way it's not a small tweek to the model like changing the type of spikes. Anyway, +rep. I liked it from the start, it just seemed like it wasn't a new model to me at first.

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    Congratulations DeathToDeathwing77, you're probably the most stupid person on this forum.
    One honest question: do you have eyes?
    Seriously I'm wondering because either you have absolf*ckinglutely no idea what a "model" actually is, or you must be living in some kind of weird parallel world.

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    Says the guy that Joined in 2009 and doesn't have any rep. And a model is a 3d shape that is morphed that can be put into .3ds fomat. Any more smart remarks Leecher?

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    actually i've been a model once and i'm not a 3d shape that can be morphed

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    Originally Posted by MadameGrip View Post
    actually i've been a model once and i'm not a 3d shape that can be morphed
    Not to sound off topic but someone knows when i can find "Garricks' Head"?

    Btw ye this edit hasn't much in common with shadowmourne apart the general idea of skull and axe xD
    You like my work? you love my edits? you love RPing?
    Come to my RP server then, is still in closed alpha, but azeroth needs YOU.
    NO! i won't give my edits to anyone for any other server!!! and my patches (from 1.5) will be encrypted and will require my server, otherwise the game will crash. cya leechers

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    FFS guys, dont flame others work like that. Inspiration is illigal and flameable now? Jeeez, I missed soemthing there. DeathToDeathwing, really calm the F down already, and dont kill other motivation (refering to Bloomfalls) for f'ing with them. Dude cmon.

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    So I can't defend myself after a nobody Leecher calls me the most stupid person on this forum? Makes no sense, before that I was perfectly calm. Merely ensured this edit wasn't a scam for rep with a new texture on an existing model. It's not, as clearified here:
    KK let me rephrase now: at first it seemed like you took shadowmourne and tweeked it. After reading a comment about reskining Shadow's Edge to Magmadeep, I took a look at Shadow's Edge and that looks more similar to Magmadeep than Shadowmourne. Considering now that Shadow's Edge didn't have the skull shape on it and it didn't have horns, this is a new model then. Your easiest explaination to convince me instead of that long paragraph would have just been to say it is a remade Shadow's Edge. To me adding a skull and horns to something that once didn't have them is a new model then, cause that way it's not a small tweek to the model like changing the type of spikes. Anyway, +rep. I liked it from the start, it just seemed like it wasn't a new model to me at first.
    And that was end of story till the Leecher came around.

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    Let me end this arguement by saying:

    No blue, no clue.

    Thank you, cya!

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    EDIT: NVM, wrong reading
    You like my work? you love my edits? you love RPing?
    Come to my RP server then, is still in closed alpha, but azeroth needs YOU.
    NO! i won't give my edits to anyone for any other server!!! and my patches (from 1.5) will be encrypted and will require my server, otherwise the game will crash. cya leechers

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    Let me end this arguement by saying:

    No blue, no clue.

    Thank you, cya!
    Good enough for me!

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    Alright, we're done with this topic, everything's clear now to everyone. Moving on.

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