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    Get the best out of your Death Knight

    Ok, first things first. i am not the creator of this little guide, i am simply posting on MMOwned because you guys need to know this stuff. Here it is!



    The hunt for the best death knight spec



    The thing everyone who is rerolling death knight has on their minds, besides getting some, is what spec is going to work? I have been asking myself this very question and set out to test every viable spec and find out what works, and what doesnt. Keep in mind every spec I link to here has so many variations on it who knows what variation would be better.


    Blood-Â Â Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
    (I was hesitant at first to put this up since I have only tried this blood spec (whereas with the others I went through a ton of variations on them)

    This spec (like all dk specs) to be fairly good. Focus is on self healing and vampiric blood, imp blood tap and mark of blood do the job extremely well. On beta I saw one guy doing this spec (in the sea of deep unholy dk) and did fairly well with it. Fast hitting classes are rendered useless by mark of blood.
    Overall it seems pretty decent but this spec just wasn't my favorite.


    Frost-Â Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
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    I always loved frost, from the early leveling to premades at 80, this was my favorite spec. It's very fun, but the problem is it just cannot stand up to the next two specs in power...


    Deep Unholy- Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

    This or some variation on it seems to be the most common spec of death knights in beta. Good survivability and you have the gargoyle, which is probably my favorite dk ability. On top of all this you have the controll the ghoul stun offers.

    I was cruising around for a couple days as the above spec, making ret pallies, shamans and druids extremely angry, but I soon was trounced by a new spec I had never seen before.


    Offence oriented blood unholy hybrid- Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

    Imp blood tap is a must if you pvp. Its unreal how much this ability helps. This spec combines burst and survivability to make it a good spec to take. Yet, as with deep unholy, a new spec came around and showed everyone how it was done.


    Defence oriented hybrid- Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

    This spec trades off damage for survivability. The white attack talents for mark of blood, rage of rivendare (more offensive ability) for vet of the third war (slightly less offensive yet has sta to make up for it) and it cannabalizes some talents for imp death grip and virulence. The biggest thing about this spec is anti magic zone and the imp anti magic shell, just so many usefull applications for these two abilities. I honestly think some version of this will be the cookie cutter spec.


    From what I have found and most people are saying imp blood tap and mark of blood are so good if they get moved down the tree everyone will spec blood with the rest in unholy. Most people, myself included, feel that no spec will be a true pvp spec without one or more of those two abilities.

    Also I figured I would throw in my votes for dk 2s. Ice mage and rogue. Both classes offer what the dk doesnt have in controll, and in the rogues case a ms debuff. With them holding down and bursting a target the dk can obliterate the kill target, along with chaining cc with silence abilities (why im rolling a blood elf) on the healer.


    ADDED BY buahbleah

    As a DK playing at 2100+ i can say you forgot the most popular specc of all.

    The Shadowfrost-specc 0/21/50 or 0/20/51

    Ad this to your collection and it's a nice guide. Btw. 21/0/50 is only a good pvp specc if you play with another DD or just solo in BGs with no healer by your side. In every other occasion, shadowfrost is way better.. for the burst.

    Shadowfrost with or without scourge strike - i prefer without.


    http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/ba...03150023103050

    That's my current specc.. i play in Unholy presence most of the time, so i don't need unholy aura. If you prefer to play in blood you should get it. Maybe corpse explosion is another great gimmick if you really wanna burst (5k+ noncrits from corps explosion). I wouldnt change anything about my specc for 2s

    Sorry cant provide you any info on PvE speccs, since i never PvE with this char.


    + rep for buahbleah


    ADDED BY Silowyi

    0/21/50 is primarily focused around maximizing ranged burst with on command icy touch crits and gargoyle with big oblits for melee. But mostly it seems to be a spec for Icy Touch damage. Works well in PvP for some nice burst at range or whenever you don't have a paladin to free you.

    Thanks for reading guys - Pukka!
    Last edited by Pukka; 03-16-2009 at 07:13 AM.

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    As a DK playing at 2100+ i can say you forgot the most popular specc of all.

    The Shadowfrost-specc 0/21/50 or 0/20/51

    Ad this to your collection and it's a nice guide. Btw. 21/0/50 is only a good pvp specc if you play with another DD or just solo in BGs with no healer by your side. In every other occasion, shadowfrost is way better.. for the burst.

    Shadowfrost with or without scourge strike - i prefer without.

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    buahbleah can u show me on a talent calculator the best dk DPS raid spec and how to make the shadowfrost spec. im a nub when it comes to DK and not sure wut points i use for the "0/21/51" would def +rep

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    0/21/50 is primarily focused around maximizing ranged burst with on command icy touch crits and gargoyle with big oblits for melee. But mostly it seems to be a spec for Icy Touch damage. Works well in PvP for some nice burst at range or whenever you don't have a paladin to free you.

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    World of Warcraft Europe -> Info -> Classes -> Death Knight -> Talents

    That's my current specc.. i play in Unholy presence most of the time, so i don't need unholy aura. If you prefer to play in blood you should get it. Maybe corpse explosion is another great gimmick if you really wanna burst (5k+ noncrits from corps explosion). I wouldnt change anything about my specc for 2s

    Sorry cant provide you any info on PvE speccs, since i never PvE with this char.

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    Thanks for the contribs.

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    Originally Posted by buahbleah View Post
    World of Warcraft Europe -> Info -> Classes -> Death Knight -> Talents

    That's my current specc.. i play in Unholy presence most of the time, so i don't need unholy aura. If you prefer to play in blood you should get it. Maybe corpse explosion is another great gimmick if you really wanna burst (5k+ noncrits from corps explosion). I wouldnt change anything about my specc for 2s

    Sorry cant provide you any info on PvE speccs, since i never PvE with this char.
    This works pretty good. rep+
    2k7

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    I'm sorry. i know i'm just a leecher, but still, when patch 3.1 comes this will be useless
    I mean, they will remove the talent that maked you a ghoul when you die.

    or am i wrong? Atleast it's not in the 3.1 talent calculator.

    Otherwise, nice guide and +1 rep for you.

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    Thanks, I'm enjoying my DK more now, all thanks to you budd!

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    Originally Posted by Silowyi View Post
    0/21/50 is primarily focused around maximizing ranged burst with on command icy touch crits and gargoyle with big oblits for melee. But mostly it seems to be a spec for Icy Touch damage. Works well in PvP for some nice burst at range or whenever you don't have a paladin to free you.

    when do you get to use oblit? oO
    Usually you use BS to refresh your runes, so you can get up 1-2 more FrostStrikes.

    @Canbus
    What would you need to become a ghoul for? Sometimes you do become one, sometimes you dont, in BG for instance, i become a ghoul prolly 1time out of 17 times i die(doesnt rly happen but ye ^^)
    But the fact that all the above postedspeccs will be useless is right.


    My 2cents

    btw. nothing to say to the OP bcus i didnt read it trough bcus im too pissed i didnt have an idea of that :P

    +rep
    Whadupppp?

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    Thanks for guide , i found some useful things that i did not know !

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    Last edited by Noobspree; 03-18-2009 at 03:42 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Originally Posted by Dori View Post
    when do you get to use oblit? oO
    Usually you use BS to refresh your runes, so you can get up 1-2 more FrostStrikes.

    @Canbus
    What would you need to become a ghoul for? Sometimes you do become one, sometimes you dont, in BG for instance, i become a ghoul prolly 1time out of 17 times i die(doesnt rly happen but ye ^^)
    But the fact that all the above postedspeccs will be useless is right.


    My 2cents

    btw. nothing to say to the OP bcus i didnt read it trough bcus im too pissed i didnt have an idea of that :P

    +rep

    As 0/21/50 or 0/20/51 you never ever Obliverate or Froststrike. You are using blood boil to get deahrunes and AE-snare (glyph that will be removed in 3.1) everything in range, and spam icy touch and pestilence

    Of course this specc is most likely not gonna work in 3.1, who knows what's gonna work in 3.1 at this point? When 3.1 hits, i'll post the most decent DK-Arena specc that i figured out.

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    i got a small one already, tinkering around a bit.
    + what i said is exactly that you never use Froststrike nor Obliterate ;P

    10/53/7 should be the most viable Arena specc.
    Last edited by Dori; 03-18-2009 at 08:27 AM.
    Whadupppp?

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    nice i def play my DK more now

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