~Defending Against a Rogue Stunlock~

[Vandir]

Hello, everyone. I'm putting this here because of a post on my last thread asking how to defend against it rather than do it. I hope everyone enjoys this thread.

Note: I did not write this guide. This is taken from here. I'm not trying to take credit for someone else's work, I'm just trying to help some people on these forums.

1. Fighting rogues requires a ton of stamina. You want to force the rogue to collect at least ten combo points to win. The longer the fight continues, the more likely it is the rogue will mistime an attack, or miss, which will break the lock.

2. Moving is pointless. It is impossible to outrun a rogue in combat, so don't bother trying to reposition the fight unless there is something nearby that can distract the rogue long enough for you to attack or escape.

3. Use instants only. Anything with a cast time is going to be interrupted, so there is no point in wasting the half-second you might have just to have the spell interrupted anyway.

4. If you have a pvp trinket, make sure to trinket the transitional stuns like blind and sap. The reason for this is that a rogue cannot continue a stunlock unless they can restealth, and forcing them to vanish greatly reduces their options in the second or third round of combo points.

5. Don't button mash. Watch the fight as it proceeds and try to anticipate what the rogue wants to do next. If you can see an attack coming, you might be able to force it to miss.

[Boulders]

I haven't read the first post you made, but I'm going to comment on this one without knowledge of the other....

1.) I initially saw this guide as something you could do if jumped by a rogue in pve, or against an arena match, or something which would actually happen. Am I going to deck myself out in stamina gear JUST for the sole purpose that a rogue might attack me? This tip is something you can't anticipate. #1 is a useless tip and could be directed towards anything easily, like warlocks, and to outlive their dots so you can kill them in time.

2.) Moving is only pointless if the rogue is PERFECT. Which, 99% of the time, isn't probable. I can sooo eaasily get away from rogues if no immobilizing effect (cripp pois) is on me after the stun breaks loose. Stay in one place to help them kill you? No thanks.

3.) Using instant spells is actually a pretty good point if you can't get away from them. Use instants close combat, use spells after you get away (refer to #3 =P)

4.) I LOVE how you tell ppl to trinket out of sap. My brother's my 2v2 partner, and I always rofl when he gets two saps off after the numbskull's trinketed out of the first.

5.) The last piece of advice is obvious, and doesn't need to be said. You're just telling people to play the class well and not panic.

~~ I tried to give you some constructive critisism, so don't take it the wrong way.

[Drythils]

Thanks for posting, but before posting something thats wrong, accually read it. I refer to Boulders post above mine, and I agree. All but #3

and also turning your back to a rogue could give them a chance for a Backstab if there good, which if it crits is even worse :P Only realy helps you if their going to Gouge you.

[mrheh]

Trinket should really only be used against blind imo.. if you let a rogue get a full blind off on you, its very bad.. he gets a chance to bandage, full energy regeneration and a restealth. From there he can sap you, get time off his cd's and then re-open on you. Very bad for you, great for him.

As for the point made above about running away from the rogue, if you don't have crip poison on you then he's not a very good rogue. Rogues have a skill called shiv which instantly applies the off hand poison to the target.

Turning your back is probably a bad idea.. you have 0 dodge chance from behind.

[Vandir]

Trinket should really only be used against blind imo.. if you let a rogue get a full blind off on you, its very bad.. he gets a chance to bandage, full energy regeneration and a restealth. From there he can sap you, get time off his cd's and then re-open on you. Very bad for you, great for him.

As for the point made above about running away from the rogue, if you don't have crip poison on you then he's not a very good rogue. Rogues have a skill called shiv which instantly applies the off hand poison to the target.

Turning your back is probably a bad idea.. you have 0 dodge chance from behind.

First of all, it said NOT to try and run.
Second, I've edited the part about turning your back on him. Also, using the PvP trinket to get out of the Sap could let you put a DoT on him. This will stop him from using Stealth or Vanish for a period of time.

And thanks for the corrections! I'm a rogue newb atm and someone more experienced should re-write this if possible.

[Vixxi]

I have a rogue and if you want to get away to live another day, your only option is to get backup, CC me, or outheal my damage between stuns and interupts. So far only S3 resto druids actually give me a problem.

[Vixxi]

I have a rogue and if you want to get away to live another day, your only option is to get backup, CC me, or outheal my damage between stuns and interupts. So far only S3 resto druids actually give me a problem.

[issacobra]

stuunlocks don't exist except against ass opponents.

[mrheh]

First of all, it said NOT to try and run.
Second, I've edited the part about turning your back on him. Also, using the PvP trinket to get out of the Sap could let you put a DoT on him. This will stop him from using Stealth or Vanish for a period of time.

And thanks for the corrections! I'm a rogue newb atm and someone more experienced should re-write this if possible.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I was responding to boulders when I said about the running thing.

[chaostheory123]

Try to kite rogue, I know it is almost impossible because of the best slowing effect in the game. 70% reduced speed.

[Anotherfox]

If I'm ganking someone or PvP I ALWAYS have Crippling Poison II on my Off Hand (Dirge - 1.40 Speed) then I pop Cheap Shot (Stun for 4 seconds) then use Shiv to apply Crippling Poison. What you do here is upto yourself.

My Personal Basic combo is:

Cheap Shot, Shiv, Hemo, Haste Trinket, Hemo, Kidney Shot, Shiv, Hemo, Hemo etc etc
Rinse and repeat as required.

Note this is only a basic combo and obviously its changes if the other player uses Trinkets or I get DoT'd etc

[Æiden]

New Guide idea Rogue can kill any thing but druids!

[Riot-Now]

I´m a PvP-Ms Orc Warrior, so i atleast have an amount of 30% stunresist berserker rage and the trinket...
so.. don´t run with your butterknifes into my disk saw !
xD

warriors who die while stunlocked should del. their chars i think^^


go get a shield and wear it if you know, you ll be attacked by a rogue oder be an orc.

[Riot-Now]

Try to kite rogue, I know it is almost impossible because of the best slowing effect in the game. 70% reduced speed.

you cant slow rogues...

cos and imp. sprint (correct name?)

[kh2riv19]

i play rogue

this guide fails really bad

SAPTRINKETISBAD