RaF Gametime Revoked

[lukija]

Seems like its due ppl who payed for RAF (for example seller that sold it to us) simply wired his money back after some time (not saying he did, its just possibility judging by all official forums comments I saw so far), or its problem with his bank etc.
Just check RAF Free Month(s) Removed - Forums - World of Warcraft .

At least thats whats the problem for those ppl who got email from blizzard, I got none, my RAF time just got removed without any notice from blizzard.

How naive can you be?

How much do you think the RAF seller pays to Blizzard if he charges you 2-5 euros for a month of game time?

How do you think the RAF game time sellers make a profit from this?

[Snowee]

-Is your account US or EU? Eu
-Has your RaF time been removed? Ya
-How much RaF did you buy / how much was removed? Bought overall 18months, removed 9months (other 9months have been passed)
-Have you opened a ticket / talked to a GM recently to make them look at your account? i reported some flamer, nothing else
-Was your time removed before or after 4/3/2012? after
-Were you signed up for the Annual Pass? ya
If you were signed up for the AP
-Did it take away the AP or just make you finish out the remaining time? i just have to pay 6more months
-Have you been accepted to join the MoP beta? (If so, when were you invited?) ya & ya

My post again.

I bought today 1new month of raf... lets see where that goes

[portalsola]

Has anyone actually contacted blizzard and asked if the annual pass time will be reset or not? I've had 5 months pass by just fine, and if i can pay legit from now and just get away with 7 months then thats fine, but if the timer on the account is bugged, or just not updated or something then i might aswell bail right away, im not paying for 12 months from the time of removal of my RAF months

Atleast the way they worded it in the email made it sound like we gotta pay 12 months from the day of the RAF removal, but none of the timers where actually extended yet as far as i know.

[HQM]

Has anyone actually contacted blizzard and asked if the annual pass time will be reset or not? I've had 5 months pass by just fine, and if i can pay legit from now and just get away with 7 months then thats fine, but if the timer on the account is bugged, or just not updated or something then i might aswell bail right away, im not paying for 12 months from the time of removal of my RAF months

Atleast the way they worded it in the email made it sound like we gotta pay 12 months from the day of the RAF removal, but none of the timers where actually extended yet as far as i know.

As I understand from the email, the timer is reset and the AP is extended so you can still taking advantage from it, but having to pay it all. HOWEVER, as far as we log in our account, it seems like it didn't move. So, don't know for sure, but I guess we shouldn't open a ticket for that. I assure if I have to pay 12 months again, I'll just cancel my account, and they can eat their Diablo3 key.

[thegreywolf]

As I understand from the email, the timer is reset and the AP is extended so you can still taking advantage from it, but having to pay it all. HOWEVER, as far as we log in our account, it seems like it didn't move. So, don't know for sure, but I guess we shouldn't open a ticket for that. I assure if I have to pay 12 months again, I'll just cancel my account, and they can eat their Diablo3 key.

I understand the mail in a different way. It's more like "we have started charging your credit card again automatically, so you don't have to worry about not paying us", but from what I understand the expire date of the annual pass shouldn't change. At least that's what I understand and I expect, I don't mind paying the 7 months left... But if they do change the expiration date, Imma fire ma laz0rs against them :P


We need more people writing in the forum about their experiences regarding contacting blizzard via telephone or with a battle.net ticket so we can get more info.

[kazoooka]

-Is your account US or EU? EU
-Has your RaF time been removed? Yes All of it!
-How much RaF did you buy / how much was removed? 12 Months / 9 Months
-Have you opened a ticket / talked to a GM recently to make them look at your account? Nope
-Was your time removed before or after 4/3/2012? No, 04/13/2012
-Were you signed up for the Annual Pass? Yes
If you were signed up for the AP
-Did it take away the AP or just make you finish out the remaining time? Made me finish the rest of the time to pay with my credit card.
-Have you been accepted to join the MoP beta? (If so, when were you invited?) Yes, on the same exact day....


So what the heck is this shit. I am sure they cannot do this in germany because its heavily against the lawsuit! I alreay wrote an email to the support that they should immediatly redo this removal...

[thegreywolf]

I understand the mail in a different way. It's more like "we have started charging your credit card again automatically, so you don't have to worry about not paying us", but from what I understand the expire date of the annual pass shouldn't change. At least that's what I understand and I expect, I don't mind paying the 7 months left... But if they do change the expiration date, Imma fire ma laz0rs against them :P


We need more people writing in the forum about their experiences regarding contacting blizzard via telephone or with a battle.net ticket so we can get more info.

I called EU Spanish Customer Service via telephone, and they answered me that, as I said, the expiration date of the annual pass doesn't change. I asked about removing the annual pass altogether, and they made me send an e-mail to [email protected]. I will post here as soon as I get a reply.

[caraddict]

-Is your account US or EU? EU
-Has your RaF time been removed? yes
-How much RaF did you buy / how much was removed? 12 months / all of it
-Have you opened a ticket / talked to a GM recently to make them look at your account? No
-Was your time removed before or after 4/3/2012? on the date 4/3/2012
-Were you signed up for the Annual Pass? Yes
If you were signed up for the AP
-Did it take away the AP or just make you finish out the remaining time? AP still active and my credit card got charged
-Have you been accepted to join the MoP beta? (If so, when were you invited?) No

How do I revoke my AP now? I never planned to pay for it, I can't fit it in on my budget I always just paid for gametime with gold!!

[Bluter]

Blizzard isn't really gonna care about losing people that are paying for time with gold anyway. They don't make any money from it...

Sure about that? If I would get all the money they make through this just for a single month...I wouldn't have to worry about paying my bills for a long, long time. They know exactly what's going on with many thousand customers (maybe tenthousands) that pay their Gametime through RaF for around 2 years or more and don't do anything against this, except the AP shit currently going on. There must be a reason and the only reason I could think of is that they still make some nice profit with it, if only 10% doesn't chargeback it's more than a good deal. Don't forget, a active account doesn't cost blizzard more than a few cents every month.

[TommyT]

-Is your account US or EU? EU
-Has your RaF time been removed? 4 months
-How much RaF did you buy / how much was removed? 4 months
-Have you opened a ticket / talked to a GM recently to make them look at your account? No
-Was your time removed before or after 4/3/2012? After
-Were you signed up for the Annual Pass? Yes
If you were signed up for the AP
-Did it take away the AP or just make you finish out the remaining time? Finish
-Have you been accepted to join the MoP beta? (If so, when were you invited?) Yes The same day it got removed

[phantom325]

@cara, call Blizzard Billing, usually they will take it off, but sometimes they won't. Or, you can switch to a pre-paid CC (once where you put money on it) so they can't bill it. Usually, that will end up in a ban though.

[portalsola]

I'm currently skilling up herbing+mining on one account, just to try to have it temp/perm banned and see how that affects the annual pass

[Bluter]

Had prepaid CC with no money on as payment method, it was removed but the ap was still there. Today for whatever reason I got a mail from blizzard that my account has been banned for abuse of economy. I haven't done anything suspicious on that account but that's what I wanted. AP gone, not available to me anymore but the D3 license is still active...waiting for the 15.05. now

@portalsola: Why not spam for some goldsellers? This should be the way to get your account banned very fast. I wanted to do this, too but Blizzard was faster. This could be real fun if you find someone else who wants to get rid of his ap this way. If two chinese level 1 goldsellers of different companies (maybe named ping and pong) flame and undercut eacht other in /2...I had so many ideas...all wasted...I'm sad.

[portalsola]

Well spamming will most likely lead to a perm ban, i'd prefer to just get a 72h ban but if it ends up being perm i won't loose sleep over it im herbing in uldum on a high pop server now so i smell ultimate doom comming!

[Tymerias]

why the should ban you for herbing ? or do you use a bot ?