Emerald Dream Accessible or Not?

[sieg777]

I'll check it on live when I wake up. Thanks for checking on the old build, did you run into an invisible wall under there as well? Or is that only on live?

[Ellion]

IDK, I used noclip hack

Edit: Will check on 2.3.3, if I find the discs with the client -_-
This topic has interested me

[WizardTrokair]

This thread should be moved to the Questions forum.

When I watch the old videos of people D/Cing at the green smoke into the Emerald Dream, they always D/C with some sort of lag macro, then log back on, and they're there.

This would lead me to believe that Emerald Dream is (or was) not actually physically UNDER Hyjal, but more of a "Secondworld" thing, like the RAoV guys did. In other words, I don't think flying under Hyjal's old green smoke with a no-clip would work... as I think the D/C has something to do with it, and it was putting you in a different location.

RAoV would D/C on one continent (after using a boat or transport, or tricking the game into thinking they are in multiple locations using BG and Dungeon que tricks), and when they logged back on, they were in a similar map location, but on the other continent.

I wonder if somehow enabling Secondworld at the green smoke on an old 3.3.5 server would do anything...

[rchy]

I am in for helping... I been wanting to do Emerald Dream for ages. Anything you guys want me to check? 1.12 servers? 4.0.3 servers? I will help in anyway possible.

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JUST TO NOTE! I have some information you might be interested in. On a private server in 3.5.5, I used to be an Admin. Everytime I telaported to Emerald Dream, it'll go to loading screen, load 3/4 of the way, then my WoW would crash and my characters would remain stuck. I would have to get sombody to port me somwhere to please that character again.

BUT

When I went into an instance (I only tried Black Temple), and ported myself whilst inside the instance, it'll port me to Emerald Dream 3.3.5. Which is interesting, because it wouldn't port me when I wasn't in the instance, but when I was, it had no problem doing it.


Maybe there is somwhere inside a certain instance wit Emerald Dream hidden far away from it... Lik the Deadmines Secret...
Not places like... where you glitch out the instance and there is ground, but places like, if you glitch out, and their is just thin air. Like Stockades. Hack out of Stockades and you will see thin air. Check every instance that is like that, and go round and see if Emerald Dream is hidden inside an instance.


Where else would it be?

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Also, I play Retail WoW aswell if you want me to do checks on their.

[hppa]

I am in for helping... I been wanting to do Emerald Dream for ages. Anything you guys want me to check? 1.12 servers? 4.0.3 servers? I will help in anyway possible.

---------- Post added at 10:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:14 AM ----------

JUST TO NOTE! I have some information you might be interested in. On a private server in 3.5.5, I used to be an Admin. Everytime I telaported to Emerald Dream, it'll go to loading screen, load 3/4 of the way, then my WoW would crash and my characters would remain stuck. I would have to get sombody to port me somwhere to please that character again.

BUT

When I went into an instance (I only tried Black Temple), and ported myself whilst inside the instance, it'll port me to Emerald Dream 3.3.5. Which is interesting, because it wouldn't port me when I wasn't in the instance, but when I was, it had no problem doing it.


Maybe there is somwhere inside a certain instance wit Emerald Dream hidden far away from it... Lik the Deadmines Secret...
Not places like... where you glitch out the instance and there is ground, but places like, if you glitch out, and their is just thin air. Like Stockades. Hack out of Stockades and you will see thin air. Check every instance that is like that, and go round and see if Emerald Dream is hidden inside an instance.


Where else would it be?

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Also, I play Retail WoW aswell if you want me to do checks on their.

Before reading through what I'm about to post, keep in mind that retail is built very much differently than most privatservers, and that what may have worked on retail during 2.4.3, might not on a privateserver of the same version.

In case Emerald Dream was hidden away inside an already existing instance, that'd be visible from going through the server database of instance ID's. For instance, if I port myself into Emerald Dream the way you described (via another instance first), I should then, as an admin, simply be able to check which instance ID my character currently is in.

This shit has gotten me kinda interested though, gonna throw up servers of various versions and try some myself. As for live, I very very much doubt that the Emerald Dream files are even still in the client data.

[Andros]

There was a splendid article on the OotHE-forums, discussing just the same problems a while ago: Note that my posts are - sceptical in any way.
Here's a link! OotHE - The Emerald Dream is still out there

[rchy]

Just saw that link... does anybody remember that zone with the big, massive wooden box, and inside that box, it had a small wooden box? That wasn't instanced in patch 1.12...

If we find a way to get to Emerald Dream, other zones like that might be possible to!

[stoneharry]

Just saw that link... does anybody remember that zone with the big, massive wooden box, and inside that box, it had a small wooden box? That wasn't instanced in patch 1.12...

If we find a way to get to Emerald Dream, other zones like that might be possible to!

Map 13 coords 0 0 0, 0 0 -5, 0 0 -250, 0 0 -500 in the format X Y Z.

In terms of the Emerald Dream, it is still on a separate map. Back in early TBC there was a way to get there that involved manipulating the Stratholme areatriggers (can't remember how they did it) but Blizzard fixed it. I don't think it would be possible to physically get to the Emerald Dream anymore, but you might find a way to bug yourself there client side (server side not there so you won't see any mobs/objects should there be any).

[sieg777]

So I tried XYZing through the invisible wall, disconnected me, and when I logged back in I'm at the GY by XR in Northern Barrens. (Such a tease, I though it was gonna log me back into ED *ragefail*)

Minor find, but for fun I threw up a question on the official wow forums asking "So is ED even still a hidden area in the game? Come on blues I know you are there. Shed some light"

Thread deleted 2 minutes later. SPECULATION?

Also, for anyone checking as an admin on private servers, is there any tool or file that lists all instance portals (or triggers) and their co-ords in the game world (live would be ideal; I will rep anyone for simply posting that info so we can look at it).

I appreciate the effort guys, you are awesome. My help kind of only can come from discovering things on live, shamefully I don't have the skills for really looking under every rock ]:

Keep it up, we'll find something

[Ellion]

So I tried XYZing through the invisible wall, disconnected me, and when I logged back in I'm at the GY by XR in Northern Barrens. (Such a tease, I though it was gonna log me back into ED *ragefail*)

Sadly that didn't work

Minor find, but for fun I threw up a question on the official wow forums asking "So is ED even still a hidden area in the game? Come on blues I know you are there. Shed some light"

Thread deleted 2 minutes later. SPECULATION?

Lol, I'll check it on the Russian forums.

[stoneharry]

Also, for anyone checking as an admin on private servers, is there any tool or file that lists all instance portals (or triggers) and their co-ords in the game world (live would be ideal; I will rep anyone for simply posting that info so we can look at it).

We can log areatrigger changes with a simple core edit and see all areatrigger locations (these are portals etc btw) with coords through the database.

To get exact coords, area, phase etc we just do .gps

If you need any of this data say, although it would be easier if you could just go on a random GM server / random repack and try it yourself. /lazy

[Ellion]

Also, for anyone checking as an admin on private servers, is there any tool or file that lists all instance portals (or triggers) and their co-ords in the game world (live would be ideal; I will rep anyone for simply posting that info so we can look at it).

Something like that?

[Daaltonwow]

Yes, ED is STILL in game, as well as Azshara Crater. They are both instanced and unaccessible still to this day by players. There could be a hidden instance trigger somewhere in-game but there has been lots of searching and posts saying they have been removed.

Some facts: -ED is it's own instance, not hidden inside another.
-It's still a 40 man raid, when I ported there on a private server my minimap said (40).
-Once you enter it looks untextured and very bright green, but it is actually completely textured, you HAVE to turn off spectacular lighting to be able to see the textures.
-It was supposed to be a endgame raid back in TBC, it was scrapped and will probably be a raid, zone, expansion in the future, a lot of people are saying the next xpac will be ED. If this is true im almost 99% sure it will be completely redone, similar layout but completely diff look, like Hyjal.

Some info from explorers back in alpha, vanilla, tbc.

-The Emerald Dream is an unfinished zone with a surreal landscape. Little is known about this area, although it is speculated to be everything from a new zone, a dream world (Emerald Paradise, etc.) and an instance to something totally unique.

-BLIZZ QUOTE: "Blizzard quote: Tigole: "The Emerald Dream is shaping up to be extremely cool. We don't want to preview any of that content yet as it is *endgame* and we want some surprises for players.

The zone is massive and beautiful. And once the content team is done with it, it will be exceedingly challenging >=] Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:01:05 PST."

-The Emerald Dream will likely appear in WoW at some point in the near future, but it's still unclear if it will be a new zone, a world spanning several new zones (Emerald Paradise, etc.), an instance, an expansion pack, or what.

Those were taken off Lost World Of Warcraft: An Explorer's Guide to Secret Areas, Lost Locations, Rare Items and Hidden Quests, a very old exploration site that was made back in vanilla/TBC.

Things I believe: ED will come out, sooner or later, it is too big and too important in lore to just be scrapped. Either it will be it's own continent or a raid. Remember there are still 4 un-working portals in-game that lead to ED. There was a rumor that DCing in the green smoke back in vanilla would trigger you into ED, I have no clue if this is false or true.

PICS OF TEXTURED ED:

[sieg777]

When I went into an instance (I only tried Black Temple), and ported myself whilst inside the instance, it'll port me to Emerald Dream 3.3.5. Which is interesting, because it wouldn't port me when I wasn't in the instance, but when I was, it had no problem doing it.

The way ED porting works from what I remember, is that you can only port there if you have something implying you are in a raid (so either port there while being in a raid group, or port there from inside a raid instance). If you try porting any other way, it will crash and give you an error message. or simply do nothing. Blah WTB 4.0.3 admin ability

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Something like that?

Thanks Del ;D

[Ellion]

PICS OF TEXTURED ED:

Hide your pictures under the spoiler please.

Hide your pictures under the spoiler please.

NP, but unfortunately there is no "Emerald Dream" ;(