Emerald Dream Accessible or Not?

[sieg777]

See, this is the thing. Now I understand this is simply speculation, but according to the blog I read (given it could be a load of bullshit), it said they were unable to modify ED, and "something was wrong with it". From the blue posts you showed there, they all imply ED was supposed to come out on vanilla's release, but out of nowhere they just stopped mentioning it (similar to Karazhan Depths; that giant area underneath the crypt in DWP). Now, lets say ED does officially come out, they aren't going to build it on what already has existed in the game files from the very first build of the game. I want to get to the original one, since that is where the gold is ;]

[Nyarly]

Btw you could get to the emerald dream on chinese ptr servers by using the gm commands during a small period.


And if i remember well, RoAV was telling everyone that they had found an access to the emerald dream on live servers patch 4.0.3...

[Andros]

Now, lets say ED does officially come out, they aren't going to build it on what already has existed in the game files from the very first build of the game.

Correct - Examples are:
- Kalidar: Used to be in Beta and were apparently meant as a testing-area for future Battlegrounds - You can still see the early buildings of the Alterac Valley and Arathi Basin - However, the modern versions have completely been changed
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- Old Outlands(Or Draenor): Yet another place that was discovered in Beta by the Noggaholics - This place was also completely (and unfortunately) rebuilt.
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- The Black Morass (Alpha Version): Have also been changed, althought some of the old data has been re-used. (No screenie here)

[tafticus]

It existed in vanilla I fell through hyjal myself and got there while lagged out, completely unintentionally. To the guy who keeps saying it never existed "THIS GAME IS WAY TOO BIG FOR YOU TO EVER KNOW FOR SURE" 13 million people playing and new stuff is still found nearly every day and lots that people are too scared to talk about. Lots of things are speculation I know but ive been there myself in a few different methods. I do not believe that it was intended to be a 40 man instance. The actual explorable file is bigger than kalimdor. That would imply to me that it was an intended new area for an expansion. The 40 man thing is evident of course but lots of areas of the game are instanced as you all may now know.

[shorstuff910mc]

No there is no way to get there as of now, but discovering it is another story. Yes there is a way to make it say "You have discovered Emerald Dream". Not a big deal.. If there was an objects or a cave that says your in Emerald Dream or anything that changes your zone to ED then u can join a bg and leave and you would spawn in ED. Example is shown in RAoVs first video. Going from the instance ZG to Silithus. Yes you can bug it to make switch map ID's so you can run around in ED but its the same thing as model editing, this glitch is known as Otherworld.

[Forgiving]

no known way, doesnt mean there isnt a way though.

[RickJamesLich]

I heard the same thing, that for a time back in vanilla I believe, if u got up to the green smoke on mount hyjal and sat and then used a d/c macro, you'd end up in ED. Blizz fixed it after about a day. From what I read it was going to be a raid, but they changed their minds and wanted to use it as an expansion instead, but decided to scrap that as well (it was supposed to be the original expansion, not BC). As for finding a way there, I guess never say never lol, didn't think it'd be possible to get to GM island without hacks, let alone the GM island box, but people come up with some clever tricks.

[vicke37]

Well Yeah idk if it is reachable in 4.0.3 but I think it still is in the files (no facts about that..) becouse when you install 4.0.3 and cata it doesent delete any part of a mpq over what I have seen it mostly updates them and add new ones. And of some facts I know emerald dream was actually in the files at 3.3.5 but idk if it was reachable (sorry for bad spelling)

[stoneharry]

didn't think it'd be possible to get to GM island without hacks, let alone the GM island box, but people come up with some clever tricks.

GM Island is on the same map as eastern kingdoms (one with Darnassus, I never did remember which way round Kalimdor and EK is), which means there are a million and one ways to get there.

People used to edit the transport system to take them to GM Island.
People used to use model edits to turn "no land" into a path.
People still use XYZ hacks to go there.

It's really not hard.

The Emerald Dream is on a different map though - which changes the whole game. There is no known way to get to a map of your choosing server side as well as client side. Some people can glitch it client side (other world etc) where there will be no mobs/objects etc because server side you're still sat in Stormwind or whatever. You might as well go on a private server / model edit here.
People have experimented with lots of different things, ranging from editing the areatriggers (portals etc) to the map where transports take you.

TBH I doubt we will ever get the server side, nothing points to it.

[Zantas]

All the links to the mapid was removed some time during TBC, so it's an impossible feat to get there server side, however concerning the fact that there is a "continent" called Emerald Dream that has models and landscape is true and not something a private modeleditor made.

There's been a lot of rumors about whether it would actually fit as an expansion, no clean up-to-date fact circulates around this.

[Palumir]

Okay, thank you for the help. This is going to sound odd, but I remember reading a blog that a friend linked me, belonging to a developer for the game. They said they are rebuilding a new Emerald Dream for future content, but it is completely separate from the one we know from exploration videos. Something about there being a reason as to why they couldn't release the original ED, or something stopped them from finishing it. Subsequently, that is apparently why they built an instance around it, removing that green smoke exploit, because something was wrong with the zone, and they didn't want players getting inside.

Ever since I read that blog, I've been dying to get back inside of it (I went there once before in vanilla using the greensmoke/disconnect macro method), just out of curiosity for what was so drastic that made them close it off last second. If I find the blog I'll repost it somewhere. It was posted on this site back in 07, can't find it though -___-

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Nope, about five other people and I got into it using that method around the time of the AQ event.

You're lying. That 'method' was a fake created by Comrade of the Void Walker Clan. He used a private server to create his Youtube video that started the rumors about the Emerald Dream.

[sieg777]

You're lying. That 'method' was a fake created by Comrade of the Void Walker Clan. He used a private server to create his Youtube video that started the rumors about the Emerald Dream.

That green smoke exploit by voidwalker came out a long time after lmao, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was based off the original method since only a few people knew about it. Any videos of the actual method were dated to 05 or 06, as the time that we got into ED was before BC (or the 2.0 patch) even hit (if they are even still up). If you don't believe me, then don't. Regardless, I'm not arguing over patched methods, I'm trying to find a way that is valid on the current version, seeing how that is what actually matters. But if you want to say that "never worked", then explain what reason there was to make a random blocked out area underneath that exact spot, when it technically isn't even accessible anyways. Isn't that pointless?

[Xel]

At least there is some development going on (http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-...ml#post2014131). Getting there has to be done with model edits if done on retail.

[Norrin]

Someone should go check it out on a private server how things have changed and report back!

[Creepwalker]

It was there all the time before 4.0.3a released.

Sorry, but this is complete bulls**t. There has never been the way to the Emerald Dream. Only a model edit. Or just a command on the private server

Incorrect, waaaay back in vanilla, for a little bit, you could change what map ID's the zeps and boats took you too. Could take advantage of this by changing it too the emerald dream ID. Of course, the amount of people that fooled around with that stuff back then was much less, most people don't know about old methods anymore.

After they fixed that, then it became more widely known, you were still able to change their travel points to go to places like GM island, but not the Map ID's