[Rant] LUA

[metehan]

Lua is the stupidest waste of time ever, its not even worth taking the 5 seconds it takes to learn it, its closed propietary and useless. It easy to learn, but guess what? It takes 5 seconds learn it, literally. The only remotely useful application are lua portals but guess what? C++ teleporters do that better.

Facts about lua.
1. Its easy to learn.
2. You cant do anything with it, its basically usesless.
3. Lua++ is a joke, why not just use c++? LOL
4. "Scripters" that only know lua, BARELY qualify.
5. Enough with these (MAKEING LUA SCRITPZZ FOR U) threads, why would anyone need a Lua script made for them, it takes 5 seconds to learn it.
6. Skip the half a second it takes to learn lua and learn a useful language.

/end rant
No flames please.

[SectorSeven]

I actually think its a decent language. You can program WoW addons in it, and private server wise, do things that you can't do in the database. Sure you can do alot of it in C++, but LUA is lightweight and easy to learn.
I consider it a programming language because i have a 1019 page book on it as it relates to WoW. I do think that the LUA threads are stupid unless they are Blizzlike 99%.

I can understand C++. But I can "speak" SQL, XML, and LUA perfectly and I think LUA is better than you think it is, Ascent just doesn't give it the functions or power to be. XPerl and Auctioneer are in LUA, some pretty awesome addons.

[arigity]

anything you can do with lua you can do in C++ however in C++ it'll take a hell of alot more knowledge and be a waste of space/processing power. lua provides an easy to use method to do most things you can do with C++ except you don't need to learn 50 different things to perform a simple task.

as an interesting side note, do you know lua or C++ metehan?

p.s. work on your grammar or at least proof-read your sentences, your first 3 say the same exact thing.

[Gastricpenguin]

Metehan, the only thing you know about lua is what it is limited to be used for ascent. The lua used in ascent is not even 1% of LUA's capabilities. Also, what do you mean you can't do anything with it? Lua can make a pretty well developed bossfight, questline, gameobject script.

Imo, learn about what you rant on. By the way, if you are going to make a rant thread, you are most definately going to get flamed since you know nothing about what you rant on.

[TheSpidey]

anything you can do with lua you can do in C++ however in C++ it'll take a hell of alot more knowledge and be a waste of space/processing power.

False.
Ascent uses C++ to enable Lua scripting. Saying that Lua is faster than C++ is not correct.

OP: Lua is great for small things, like portals, an npc that says something once in a while, and simple trash mobs.
For advanced stuff, use C++.

Also, Lua's GossipMenu syntax is extremely similar to C++'s GossipMenus. Doing them in Lua because you can't C++ is silly.

[arigity]

it'll be alot more wordy in c++ and lua is easier to manage.

[luktut]

Lua is the stupidest waste of time ever, its not even worth taking the 5 seconds it takes to learn it, its closed propietary and useless. It easy to learn, but guess what? It takes 5 seconds learn it, literally. The only remotely useful application are lua portals but guess what? C++ teleporters do that better.

Facts about lua.
1. Its easy to learn.
2. You cant do anything with it, its basically usesless.
3. Lua++ is a joke, why not just use c++? LOL
4. "Scripters" that only know lua, BARELY qualify.
5. Enough with these (MAKEING LUA SCRITPZZ FOR U) threads, why would anyone need a Lua script made for them, it takes 5 seconds to learn it.
6. Skip the half a second it takes to learn lua and learn a useful language.

/end rant
No flames please.

it happens to be useful because with out it none of the bosses would be scripted and if its a bad language why the **** does Blizzard use it????? seriously its a decent language its easy to learn so what but its a great 'gateway' language into other more powerfull ones :stick:

[TheSpidey]

I swear next time I see someone raise the "BLIZZ USES IT ZOMG", heads will be flying.

ASCENT != BLIZZARD
The servers aren't the same, don't expect them to do the same things ffs.

[luktut]

I swear next time I see someone raise the "BLIZZ USES IT ZOMG", heads will be flying.

ASCENT != BLIZZARD
The servers aren't the same, don't expect them to do the same things ffs.

ya no shit there not the same Blizzards is perfect almost no bugs, no lag.
that doesn't mean they don't use LUA they use it for a lot of things such as all there UI's........

and i don't expect them to do the same things thats common sense :banghead:

[TheSpidey]

Stop, you're making a fool of yourself.

Adding Lua for GUI scripting != adding lua for creature, GObject and NPC scripting.
Blizzard uses spells for those.

[Gastricpenguin]

Luktut, you are a complete idiot aren't you? Blizzard uses spells to activate scripts. Go on thottbot, or hell, just LOOK at the Dbcs. If you were such an emu expert, then you would know this.
Enjoy your infractions.

[arigity]

none of thespidey's posts make the least bit of sense... at all. i think Spidey just likes to start arguments because he switches sides constantly and he flipflops on his own statements.

ascent == blizzard or is roughly close and is SUPPOSED to be the same (or as similar as it gets)
lua is lua whether it be for the GUI or for creatures its still the same language.
spells trigger your UI? wtf where does that come from? alot of spells have dummy scripts yes but i don't see a "look at talents" spell anywhere.

[pachuco55]

Why rant about something you're not going to use, or something that won't affect you in any way, shape, or form? If you know c++, good for you. It is a far superior language to LUA. I have tried learning c++, but with no scripting background, it's as if I am at a kindergarten reading level.

You say LUA takes 5 seconds to learn. Is this a bad thing? Would it not help the community if more people got interested in scripting? LUA is like the "Bob ran" books you give children. They have to start somewhere. That's where I am -- learning LUA and its capabilities beyond WoW. Once I can consider myself adept at LUA, I can move on to another language and continue learning.

You, however, must be at a very high level of scripting. I commend you for this, but do you insult the languages that are helping others on their way? Do you expect to rid the remedial books for children and give them Hamlet to learn reading on?

I hope not. Hamlet sucked.

[luktut]

none of thespidey's posts make the least bit of sense... at all. i think Spidey just likes to start arguments because he switches sides constantly and he flipflops on his own statements.

ascent == blizzard or is roughly close and is SUPPOSED to be the same (or as similar as it gets)
lua is lua whether it be for the GUI or for creatures its still the same language.
spells trigger your UI? wtf where does that come from? alot of spells have dummy scripts yes but i don't see a "look at talents" spell anywhere.

THANK YOU, its not only me that thinks spidey is just starting a fight with a site n00b


nvm... i found the activating spells, i never thought that blizzard would use spells to activate the scripts, im srry for arguing

[pachuco55]

THANK YOU, its not only me that thinks spidey is just starting a fight with a site n00b

If you don't want to start a fight, don't argue back. Using curse words, caps, and huge lettering usually incite fights. Next time just present your argument without attacking anyone. Then you can avoid GastricPenguin's bad side...