[Update] Ascent Info

[doublehex]

most people never really put forth the effort to even try to learn....im betting that ascent could have lots of more developers if people would just try instead of depending solely upon burlex

[Jacob7]

Can i say something.... This being a bad problem and all this was warned to all that the 2.4 patch was going to be the biggest faliure to all servers till they can crack it to the updated stuff.

[Jacob7]

I know scripting and how to fix DB's i could help burlex with some of it i have done some work witha bit of stuff i do this server stuff for fun so if u want my help tell him to email me at [email protected] thats a test server im trying to update some DBC files on my own for it.

[doublehex]

1) 2.4 has been cracked, just not released
2) if you want to join ascent you should actually talk to burlex, not on here....burlex doesnt come on mmowned
3) the biggest time frame for private servers to support patches will be when Wrath of the Lich King releases, it will take a LONG time in order to do everything thats gonna be in that release

[Jacob7]

Patch wise lich king expansion is not a patch dude its an expansion 2.4 is a patch there is a difference

[Clain]

Its still basically considered a patch...a "big" patch. It comes after patch 2.4.2. Which is 3.0.0

[Jacob7]

I guess its a huge patch... but your installing an entire game scenario and there is more content that can Be added within a patch a patch is for fixes and little things.

[SectorSeven]

The WotLK patch/expansion will take wow to a new level. Most servers will vanish exept for wowscape or a few others. If you can't script your basically doomed after this patch comes out, and i don't mean "Hello World". I mean like serious hard core stuff. So enjoy it while it lasts.

[arigity]

what makes you think that? they could always just leech off of burlex although if 2.4 is anything to show for it, it will be some time before anyone has wotlk on a private server.

i also highly doubt anyone but burlex would be able to come up with something for wotlk

[SectorSeven]

Burlex isnt the best scripter in the world I have a friend whos doing my server. Its mostly getting WotLK database content in. I can fix up core with major dbc changes.

[volitle]

erm wotlk aint out till the 28/09/08 :S il give you a link for some proof if you wantt he posponed it, it was mean to be released at the end of this month

[doublehex]

doesnt matter when its released, unless there some actual preparation for the patch i doubt you will make it through, because owners will lose lots of players to play the actual wotlk expansion on blizzards servers, that is why blizzard lets private servers stay alive, they bring in people to pay and play more, like say patch 2.4 they knew it would trouble most servers and slow down the rate at which servers get players as players go to blizzards server to play in the new instances and such.

[Darvaleo]

I had been submitting patches/fixes on AscentEMU and even made an entire AHbot module for it (I also created all the .account and .quest commands), so I can make some pretty serious changes to the core, but if I have to start developing in isolation (ie. every time something changes, I have to do all the work), I'll just stick with 2.3x since my server isn't even public. I'll miss running on all the current stuff, but I don't have that much time to spend on one server.

I personally "hope" that Burlex was tired of all the grumbling about 2.4 from the people who don't understand all the work involved in overhauling the core and he'll debug it offline and then put AscentEmu back online as well as the 2.4 source in a public SVN.

According to the license changes HE made, anyone running a public server, including WoWScape, MUST provide access to the source code - noob, or no noob.

I doubt any of us would take that to the lawyers and force the issue, but HE made the changes and I would hope that HE would honor it (even if others don't) when the time is right.

I remember how buggy Ascent was when we went from 2.2 to 2.3 - it took months before we really had a stable server and 2.4 is even worse, so in many ways I think Burlex did the right thing, I just hope he'll honor the intent of Ascent when he's done.

In the end, I think Burlex is a great guy whose taken a lot of crap from people that don't understand C++ or just take advantage of all the work he's done by running public servers at a price and then sending none back to him at AscentEmu.

Just my 2 cents.

[doublehex]

and a very good 2 cents it is, burlex will probably not release 2.4 when he puts ascentemu online again, at least not yet. The server must provide the source only if burlex requests it, which obviously makes no sense , and yea from what me and sec7 have found about the 2.4 patch is there is alot to be edited

[SectorSeven]

...told ya