[PQR] Deflama's Lightning Weaver

[wishkeeper]

for me:

1) on CD but only with <3 chi. Using before uplifts is just a worthless GCD
2) Constant interrupt for ReM, Chi Wave, Expel Harm. Uplift if X player need to be healed.
3) tbh the only boss in SoO that requiers medium movements is garrosh, which makes mana tea glyph useless if you consider that you mainly stand under the boss without moving for almost 12-13 bosses of the last content. You should add an option for channeling with hotkey for ppl who want to do it manually and an automatic option that will channel mana tea when we have less than 8% mana.
4) Could be useful, or could not be... but without the mana tea glyph could be a good option

[Vogel81]

Let me know if you need any help with the testing of this profile

[Vogel81]

1. Chi Brew logic: Are you wanting it used on CD, or saved for Uplifts?

With the hotfix to chi brew allowing it to proc extra based on crit, I'd almost say only when <2 chi but on CD

2. Interruption of CJL: When is it good to interrupt it? Constant interuption for use of ReM, Chi Wave, Mana Tea etc etc. Which Abilities?

ReM, Expel Harm, Chiwave should all be spammed on CD. Oh yeah Uplift if there are targets like wish said

3. Mana Tea: With the constant interruptions from mana tea with glyph when % placed quite high, mana tea channel would probably be best? I'm thinking mana tea channeling will have to be activated manually if so via hotkey. Thoughts?

I'd be in favor of a toggle on this. Auto works fine in 'most' situations, but there are times when allowing for auto glyphed tea OR manual unglyphed would be great.

4. Surging Mists with vital mists: The glyph would be very nice here but sacrificing which glyph, or worth it? Need input on this idea

Why not just build in an ability for surge with say an 80% health trigger but only with 5 stacks of vital rather than going to the glyph.

[Vogel81]

I'll run this through some LFRs with a 570 monk later today and get back to you on any input

[DEFLAMA]

Many thanks for your suggestions to my questions

In light of what you have both said for interruption of CJL i will modify it so that nothing but ReM, Expel Harm, Chi wave and Uplift interrupt it. I currently have it codded that when Meta gem procs it goes straight into using ReM (if off CD) / Jab > tp/bk (if in range). if those 4 abilities you listed are the only ones that should interrupt CJL, then i should assume that i shouldn't be interrupting CJL during lucidity for jab > tp/bk and just use the lucidity proc for free CJL ticks? just for clarification

I will leave auto glyphed tea in the profile for those who wish to use it
I shall work on a toggle hotkey for manual mana tea channeling. We shall see how it pans out

Will look at your thoughts on surging mists vogel, seems to be the better option instead of using the glyph.

Many thanks again and I look forward to hearing for you about any other bugs/ideas/improvements

[Vogel81]

Ok question about the BOK used to dump Chi. Single target it seems like TP would be the better chi dump.

Something like...

REM on CD
If < 4 chi Expel on CD
If < 3 chi, Cast Chi Brew
If 0 chi CJL
If 1 chi and no TP buff cast TP
If 3 chi and no SZ buff... cast BOK
If 3 chi and "Cleave" option checked .. cast BOK
If 3 chi and "Cleave" not checked cast TP
Cast CJL

That would keep up the SZ buff from BoK... and use TP to dump Chi.. Unless the fight has 2 or more targets in which case you want to use BoK but always keep you one chi away from being able to cast uplift...

If that makes sense.

[Vogel81]

if those 4 abilities you listed are the only ones that should interrupt CJL, then i should assume that i shouldn't be interrupting CJL during lucidity for jab > tp/bk and just use the lucidity proc for free CJL ticks? just for clarification

Using the meta proc = freeeeee mana. I'd keep that in imo.

[DEFLAMA]

Ok question about the BOK used to dump Chi. Single target it seems like TP would be the better chi dump.

Something like...

REM on CD
If < 4 chi Expel on CD
If < 3 chi, Cast Chi Brew
If 0 chi CJL
If 1 chi and no TP buff cast TP
If 3 chi and no SZ buff... cast BOK
If 3 chi and "Cleave" option checked .. cast BOK
If 3 chi and "Cleave" not checked cast TP
Cast CJL

That would keep up the SZ buff from BoK... and use TP to dump Chi.. Unless the fight has 2 or more targets in which case you want to use BoK but always keep you one chi away from being able to cast uplift...

If that makes sense.

Oh my, cleave option, why did I not think of this earlier! I shall make amendments to expel harm, cjl, tp and bok tomorrow and work on cleave option. Will release new version tomorrow afternoon. I was thinking earlier about how to go about "storing" chi for emergencies but wasn't too sure the correct way to go about it. Thank for this.

And for the meta, I shall keep it the way I have it currently but obviously with some new check to make sure I still store chi. Having a set rotation for meta procs I've seen to be very nice. If rem is on cd for the full duration of the meta proc u can squeeze in 2x"jab>tp" for some very nice regen and free damage.

Thanks again


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[Vogel81]

No problem I love manually playing my monk but LFR is just too much with carpal tunnel. Plus this is just a really fun rotation. Lemmie know when the update is up and I'll give it another test :P

[wishkeeper]

For meta gem procs the better for me is:

If in melee range: jab tp x2
If not and no surging glyph: cil
If not and with glyph: surging mist spam

[Vogel81]

For meta gem procs the better for me is:

If in melee range: jab tp x2
If not and no surging glyph: cil
If not and with glyph: surging mist spam

Definitely for melee Jab/TP x2

Actually, that whole thing works :P

'if not in melee and no one needs healing then CJL'

would be what I'd add to that list

[DEFLAMA]

Version 0.1.3 available to download and test

- Changed Expel Harm to use on CD
- CJL should only be interrupted with ReM, Expel Harm and Chi Wave. Its currently coded to also interupt to use TP or BoK if you are at 4 Chi to dump chi (this will probably change to not interupting, was for testing)
- Surging mist has been added
- PQI options have been cleaned up and all added to one page
- Detox should work now using the PQI option you want
- You can now switch between this profile and Vach's profile without having to reload
- Added "Cleave" option to change between TP and BoK as chi dumps

Thats all I can remember for now lol

Next version will have included:
- Mana Tea Channeling
- SCK
- Uplift
- Life Cocoon
Once these are added, we can start tweaking setting and code and should be close to being ready for beta raid/dungeon testing

[svs]

Stance check would be useful also. I've installed new UI and it took me a while to realize why dps is so low and statue not placing.

[Vogel81]

- Changed Expel Harm to use on CD
- CJL should only be interrupted with ReM, Expel Harm and Chi Wave. Its currently coded to also interupt to use TP or BoK if you are at 4 Chi to dump chi (this will probably change to not interupting, was for testing)
- Surging mist has been added
- PQI options have been cleaned up and all added to one page
- Detox should work now using the PQI option you want
- You can now switch between this profile and Vach's profile without having to reload
- Added "Cleave" option to change between TP and BoK as chi dumps

Woohoo! I'll give it more testing in the morning. I personally would keep the TP/BoK interrupt at 4 chi. I feel like the idea of continuing to channel at full chi is a waste.

I also haven't looked, but in single target is BoK used at least to keep up the SZ buff?

[wishkeeper]

Woohoo! I'll give it more testing in the morning. I personally would keep the TP/BoK interrupt at 4 chi. I feel like the idea of continuing to channel at full chi is a waste.

I also haven't looked, but in single target is BoK used at least to keep up the SZ buff?

I've tester it during the night but i fall asleep in front of the pc so i cant remember results... I will try to run a LFR IronQon which is basically a single target fight and i will compare with a normal fistweave fight (i'll regem/reforge 12k haste for lightweave, and full crit spec for fist).

Is is possible in PQR to auto face targets?

What i found missing during the night is the following:

If an enemy is targeted > go for lightweave rotation (CJL is not in melee range, lightweave rotation if in melee range)

If a friendly player is targeted > go for MW rotation (at least spam soothing)


Of corse for now the profile is good but need improvements in order to fit more different situations. Uplift is foundamental, but also i will not only focus on lighweave rotation without including some MW spell under specific conditions

Nice work so far