[PQR Profile] CodeMyLife MoP Hunter BeastMaster/Survival Rotation.

[deet09]

actually it's like 2 in 12s vs 2 in 11 (don't forget, killshot triggers gcd on every use)

@CodeMyLife: for PVE putting out an RF while in BW IS a dmg loose, during BW every single GCD must be dmg and for best result one should fit 2 KC and 8 AS which sums up to 120 Focus minus 40 Focus base reggen minus any Focus-reggen which might or might not ocure.(Dire Beast could be use up front if of cd and low on focus)
popping RF upfront BW isn't a problem(higher focus reggen) but during BW it's just simply wasted GCD.always remember, as Hunter you want each GCD to make the maximum of DMG, even dropping SrS(Serpent Sting) during BW is ok cause 2-3 seconds SrS not up is not even close to what 1 non DMG GCD during BW loses you on the DPS scale

just my 2 Cent, if any wrong spelling found, just keep it

RF isn't on the GCD

Also what does /matrix do. I've used it to test but I honestly have no clue and I haven't been able to find a description anywhere.

[Tamrael]

Yeah but you're triggering 2 GCD either way so it doesn't matter.


I can confirm this. If they're both up, RF then BW is better than BW then RF..

It should also be noted that Fervor + Blink Strikes outperforms Dire Beast + Murder of Crows.

yes Blink Strikes is better but Dire Beast + Blink Strikes is best DPS, just calculate yourself in simcraft/femaledwarf DB+BS vs. Fervor+BS is like 1.6k dps for me at 527 ilvl

RF isn't on the GCD

Also what does /matrix do. I've used it to test but I honestly have no clue and I haven't been able to find a description anywhere.

RF isn't on the GCD that's right, my bad there but it is better to pop it directly in front ob BW rather than pop it anywhere half through BW

[CodeMyLife]

RF isn't on the GCD

Also what does /matrix do. I've used it to test but I honestly have no clue and I haven't been able to find a description anywhere.

About the /matrix, It's mostly a tool for me and for testers to see what targets are actually written into the table. The targets that are founds trought the AllTargets process are written into the table. Your target/Focus/Mouseover targets are all supposed to appear when you use /matrix. this is a way to see how many targets are found and listed. Using /sting will change your actual serpent script to some aoe script. the priority will not be increased but the target choosen will be a valid one with less than 3 sec on debuff. This list will also be used if you are out of range of you main targets, you abilities will continue to be thrown on any valid target, keepind the DPS flowing. This is my Multi-Target Behavior that relies on this list of valid targets.

I hope this answers your question right

Don't know if its just me but this rotation did nothing during Lord Ahune fight.

Well if you play WoW from a floppydrive, It's normal that it dont work -.- lol kidding

Make sure you have PQInterface installed. It's on my SVN and link to the wiki is on the official post completely down.

For the others,

Thx for tips guyz, I already got the RF+BW instead of BW+RF fixed here locally, I added a function to see my Spell CDs, and working to make smart starts. I have made some fine tuning again yesterday to try to find the most optimal startup and I think I'm close to something good.

Someone sent me Soapbox so that i can parse my rotation vs his and it seems my stuff Is not that far from him. some parses I get bad results however. Still trying to find the best way to make kill command be cast non-stop with focus pooling prior to the ability beign ready. Btw you guyz were right, Soapbox is doing "cheap" rotations.... so many rotations to achieve one damn goal it's ridiculous... His stuff is not perfect so there's room for improvement.

I will fix the Kill shot so that it fire regardless. I'm not ready to release a test now but will in a couple hours. Thanks guyz for reporting.

[Igloo]

Using your CodeMyLife Survival I get a lot of lag during LFR and sometimes it even freezes and I have to restart WoW. Maybe it's something you could look in to? Because I've never lagged or frozen during LFR using any other profile.

[CodeMyLife]

Using your CodeMyLife Survival I get a lot of lag during LFR and sometimes it even freezes and I have to restart WoW. Maybe it's something you could look in to? Because I've never lagged or frozen during LFR using any other profile.

This problem is almost the same i had with my pally setup, will be fixed in next update, sorry if I didnt push it yesterday, I'm movign this week and wanted to fix pally first, now im working on hunter, pally should be fine.

For the lynx rush. People told this would be better than Amoc so i'm trying it. I notice that Lynx rush + rabid(pet ability) are both 1.5 min and I'm wondering if I should try to stack those. I mean I let's say I have less than 30 sec remaining on rabid, should I wait to stack those togheter? only thing that offset these is that at start we get both, then we readiness and get only lynx rush and then rabid will bome back earlier. So Rabid wont be up for nex lynx rush.

Another thing, I'm trying to find the perfect focus need for a bestial wrath with and without haste buffs. This does make quite a difference on when to start BW let's say we have RF up for next 10 secs we wont need as much focus as without any haste buff. Endind with full focus is close to be as bad as having too few of it.

[Tamrael]

This problem is almost the same i had with my pally setup, will be fixed in next update, sorry if I didnt push it yesterday, I'm movign this week and wanted to fix pally first, now im working on hunter, pally should be fine.

For the lynx rush. People told this would be better than Amoc so i'm trying it. I notice that Lynx rush + rabid(pet ability) are both 1.5 min and I'm wondering if I should try to stack those. I mean I let's say I have less than 30 sec remaining on rabid, should I wait to stack those togheter? only thing that offset these is that at start we get both, then we readiness and get only lynx rush and then rabid will bome back earlier. So Rabid wont be up for nex lynx rush.

Another thing, I'm trying to find the perfect focus need for a bestial wrath with and without haste buffs. This does make quite a difference on when to start BW let's say we have RF up for next 10 secs we wont need as much focus as without any haste buff. Endind with full focus is close to be as bad as having too few of it.

Stack Rabib BW that's what moste people do these day as Blinkstrike is the best talent for BM so far in that set, the offset on those is max 10 seconds caused of readiness but you can make the hit's of you pet much faster every second BW(and even the whole für two BW if perfectly alligned)
that's what i'm playing atm

without haste buffs up without any help from pet or any other source it's simply 80 which gets down to 70 with pet aid without ever running low on focus for a FULL 2 KC + 8 AS, with haste buff's just get the math: 2xKC=40 8xAS=80 which sums up to 120 Focus needed, base regen is 4 so in 10 seconds you get 40 focus which makes the Focus needed 80 as told befor, if haste buff is up just multiply the "real" base reggen of the current hunter with 0.3 for 30% haste and you have your new max needed value(always account for things like Dire Beast to if you need the "perfekt" number, but dire beast is a little more math)

EDIT: Dire Beast seems to hit 6 times regardless of haste but the info is pretty old will confirm later when i get home, but if this is right 6 hit's in 15 seconds would account for 20 Focus more you could use during BW (6*5=30 per 15s take away 5s so you get 20 is a little in accurate but as close as i need it)

EDIT": GetPowerRegen() is a good starting point

[CodeMyLife]

Stack Rabib BW that's what moste people do these day as Blinkstrike is the best talent for BM so far in that set, the offset on those is max 10 seconds caused of readiness but you can make the hit's of you pet much faster every second BW(and even the whole für two BW if perfectly alligned)
that's what i'm playing atm

without haste buffs up without any help from pet or any other source it's simply 80 which gets down to 70 with pet aid without ever running low on focus for a FULL 2 KC + 8 AS, with haste buff's just get the math: 2xKC=40 8xAS=80 which sums up to 120 Focus needed, base regen is 4 so in 10 seconds you get 40 focus which makes the Focus needed 80 as told befor, if haste buff is up just multiply the "real" base reggen of the current hunter with 0.3 for 30% haste and you have your new max needed value(always account for things like Dire Beast to if you need the "perfekt" number, but dire beast is a little more math)

EDIT: Dire Beast seems to hit 6 times regardless of haste but the info is pretty old will confirm later when i get home, but if this is right 6 hit's in 15 seconds would account for 20 Focus more you could use during BW (6*5=30 per 15s take away 5s so you get 20 is a little in accurate but as close as i need it)

EDIT": GetPowerRegen() is a good starting point

Very great input, clarifies a lot to me.. Focus is not that complicated explained that way. Tyvm!!

[Tamrael]

Very great input, clarifies a lot to me.. Focus is not that complicated explained that way. Tyvm!!

you're welcome, atm i'm using a fixed version of the old nove sv profile for raid's but once your profile gets to a state i can't work with eg. no dps dropt to now, i will happily switch cause your profile got some nice moves in it

EDIT: GetPowerRegen works great(just implemented it in my profile with a little hack for Dire Beast) no need to calc any hastebuffs since GetPowerRegen(for hunter return 1 is the same as 2 since we reg focus in same rate every second) just do something like:

local focusRegen = select(1, GetPowerRegen()) --get Focus reg rate
local maxFocusNeeded = (120 - (focusRegen*10)) --get the max Focus needed for 1 full BW (2KC+8AS)
local DireBeastCD = (GetTime() - select(1, GetSpellCooldown(PQ_Dire))) --get Dire Beast CD
if DireBeastCD <= 5 and not (DireBeastCD == 0 or DireBeastCD == nil) then maxFocusNeeded = maxFocusNeeded - 20 end
--if Dire Beast has 10 or more seconds remaining up you need 20 Focus less

this part of code is my math for BW atm and it worked very good at tonights raid

PS: i just started with writing profiles myself and this is far more learning by doing for me than anything else so if it helps you i'm happy

[CodeMyLife]

CodeMyTest v1.05
- Added Active Camouflage macro, fun stuff is important too, use /camo to activate it.
- Added Delay to Focus and Rapidfire. If Bestial Wrath is close to be ready to stack those
(if both are ready, will keep only the second ready).
- Added Troll Berzerking. Not troll myself will need to know if it works. Whould not overlap other*
haste buffs.
- Totally rewritten the BM CDs into one big script to handle(I hope) all CDs so it is easier*
to make a global structure to call those.
- Found a way to prevent focus capping. We now scan while Channelling to see what is beign*
channeled and if it is Cobra shot and we have the focus level we blacklist Cobra Shot until focus
fall under desired treshold.
- Fixed issue with Serpent Sting often not beign applied.
- Kill Shot is now Priority #1.
- Beastmaster look really great for now.
- Removed Multi-Target usage for now to lighten computing and allow better rotation flow.
- Rewritten lot more that doesnt interest you much but will help tuning when needed.
- Did not test Surv much but should work. Beast is better atm.

Up for testing! As usual, thanks for feedback/suggestions

[Tamrael]

CodeMyTest v1.05
- Added Active Camouflage macro, fun stuff is important too, use /camo to activate it.
- Added Delay to Focus and Rapidfire. If Bestial Wrath is close to be ready to stack those
(if both are ready, will keep only the second ready).
- Added Troll Berzerking. Not troll myself will need to know if it works. Whould not overlap other*
haste buffs.
- Totally rewritten the BM CDs into one big script to handle(I hope) all CDs so it is easier*
to make a global structure to call those.
- Found a way to prevent focus capping. We now scan while Channelling to see what is beign*
channeled and if it is Cobra shot and we have the focus level we blacklist Cobra Shot until focus
fall under desired treshold.
- Fixed issue with Serpent Sting often not beign applied.
- Kill Shot is now Priority #1.
- Beastmaster look really great for now.
- Removed Multi-Target usage for now to lighten computing and allow better rotation flow.
- Rewritten lot more that doesnt interest you much but will help tuning when needed.
- Did not test Surv much but should work. Beast is better atm.

Up for testing! As usual, thanks for feedback/suggestions

never ever use frenzy stacks right before going into BW, those stacks are more valueable on your pet during BW than Focus Fire is on you

[MrBrain1]

/edit wron thread

[CodeMyLife]

never ever use frenzy stacks right before going into BW, those stacks are more valueable on your pet during BW than Focus Fire is on you

Okay I will look to this. However EJ didnt say anything about it specifically. I do not think it is that much better but it does make sense. Well, nothing else to say? did you at least try it? It barely never happens anyway, rapid fire is used more often then else. On a 5 min fight this may occur once maybe 2 times. Not that much different. I was hoping for some numbers or something. I did parses for hours on this and tuned for 15-20h, plz give some feedback someone!

Thx for tip Tamrael.

Could you try with this code instead of what is actually there for focus? it's in Beast Cooldowns

        if frenzycount == 5
          and GetSpellCD(19574) > 8 then
              CastSpellByName(GetSpellInfo(82692))
        end 

Thanks!

[DEFLAMA]

Finally get to use my hunter again in raid instead of my paly so ill report back in about 5 hours with my results

[Tamrael]

Okay I will look to this. However EJ didnt say anything about it specifically. I do not think it is that much better but it does make sense. Well, nothing else to say? did you at least try it? It barely never happens anyway, rapid fire is used more often then else. On a 5 min fight this may occur once maybe 2 times. Not that much different. I was hoping for some numbers or something. I did parses for hours on this and tuned for 15-20h, plz give some feedback someone!

Thx for tip Tamrael.

Could you try with this code instead of what is actually there for focus? it's in Beast Cooldowns

        if frenzycount == 5
          and GetSpellCD(19574) > 8 then
              CastSpellByName(GetSpellInfo(82692))
        end 

Thanks!

i will try next none progress-raid (aprox. saturday or sunday) an will give you some numbers on this but using frenzy right before bw is one of those things every guide tells me.simcraft doesn't seem to care to much will raid-dummy for you saturday an post results
so far great work done, tested your profile during one of those toes raids and it performed very well(was last sunday so newest changes not tested yet)

[CodeMyLife]

Hunter CodeMyTest v1.06
- Changed Focus fire to use after bestial wrath rather than before as suggested by Tamrael, thanks for this input.

It's up for testing!

SVN Revision 180.

Edit: If you want to test with Focus Fire before Bestial Wrath, Revision 177 is v1.05.