[PQR] Blinded's Assassination Rogue (Updated for 5.4)

[vitalic]

the prepot and trinkets last at least 20 sec, and of course the current trinkets sometimes don't proc for a while. gloves start with the first CD. maybe within those parameters the opener can be tweaked to start vendetta with max energy and still fit all of SB into the agi procs. honestly the easiest way would be to just fire off everything right after SnD, the energy is very high at that point anyways. depending on relentless strikes luck pooling energy can take quite a while. the other obvious option is to vanish, and maybe even prep-vanish all during the opener. instead of keeping vanish for whatever it's being used for now (which i never understood).

The purpose of holding Vanish is to use it when Envenom has fallen and you need combo points in order to refresh it, in other words to try and increase Envenom uptime. I do wonder though, given how small a dps gain that is, if it would be better just to use them both in the opener to increase burst like you say. That is what cute's profile does, whether intentional or not, it does seem to help ensure you go into Vendetta/Blades with full energy. The downside to that is if you do get a Relentless Strikes proc plus maybe a Blindside proc your Vanish is more or less completely wasted.

Using Cooldowns straight after the SnD goes against all theory-crafting I've seen, and the Vendetta global delays your Rupture application.

Tomorrow I'll try a build with the energy pooling on the opener, as long as it's not pooling for more than 2-3 seconds I suspect that would make the opening burst more consistent.

I might also try some logic which Vanishes for the second Mutilate if we didn't get a Relentless Strikes or Blindside proc, could get a bit complicated though.

[starl1te]

right, the CDs before SnD suggestion is just the simplest way to start with almost full (and sometimes full) energy, no coding required. Since doing another Mut +Rup pretty much guarantees requiring several seconds of pooling and that's probably a bad idea. there are certainly cons to delaying rupture and using a gcd to place it later, not sure how much of a dps loss that is. I'd say the one really obvious use of vanish in assassination is the 14 energy mutilate we get, so the one obvious benefit to actual dps would be to basically place one or even two/three extra mutilates during the one time in the fight when we have enough buffs and procs to burst like 300K, instead of keeping it to "smooth out the rotation" at some random time later. how to code that exactly taking into account relentless and blindside is the issue of course beyond my skills.

[vitalic]

right, the CDs before SnD suggestion is just the simplest way to start with almost full (and sometimes full) energy, no coding required. Since doing another Mut +Rup pretty much guarantees requiring several seconds of pooling and that's probably a bad idea. there are certainly cons to delaying rupture and using a gcd to place it later, not sure how much of a dps loss that is. I'd say the one really obvious use of vanish in assassination is the 14 energy mutilate we get, so the one obvious benefit to actual dps would be to basically place one or even two/three extra mutilates during the one time in the fight when we have enough buffs and procs to burst like 300K, instead of keeping it to "smooth out the rotation" at some random time later. how to code that exactly taking into account relentless and blindside is the issue of course beyond my skills.

Making some progress with that. The opener is basically Mutilate > SnD > Vanish if below certain energy > Mutilate > Rupture > Pool to highish energy > Blow CDs

One difficulty I've found is making sure Vanish is used for Mutilate and only Mutilate, because of the way PQR works Shadow Focus has a habit of being consumed either too quickly or by another ability, or too slow and lost to autoattacks etc. The other trick is handling the potential Dispatch procs during the opener. I'm trying to get it so that if you get a Dispatch proc from the first Mutilate it won't use a 1pt Rupture but instead use Dispatch + another Mutilate to get a higher point Rupture, kind of obvious as to why you'd want that but a bit painful to implement.

[sed-]

so i grabbed your latest dl and when i push aoe key it pops feint also,

[vitalic]

so i grabbed your latest dl and when i push aoe key it pops feint also,

Ya my bad, I changed a bind and forgot to change it back. Just edit the bind yourself for now, it will be fixed in the next release.

[sed-]

Ya my bad, I changed a bind and forgot to change it back. Just edit the bind yourself for now, it will be fixed in the next release.

i tryed looking it up and i dont see any binds for it,

local FeintUP = Buff_Check( 1966, "player" )

if nv_feint and not FeintUP then

return true

end

[azertyrogue]

i tryed looking it up and i dont see any binds for it,

local FeintUP = Buff_Check( 1966, "player" )

if nv_feint and not FeintUP then

return true

end

It's in the Init ability. Edit this:

	local nv_binds = {
		pause     = "LeftShift",
		cooldowns = "RightShift",
		feint 	  = "RightAlt",
		aoe 	  = "RightControl",
		fok 	  = "LeftAlt",
	}

to:

	local nv_binds = {
		pause     = "LeftShift",
		cooldowns = "RightShift",
		feint 	  = "LeftControl",
		aoe 	  = "RightControl",
		fok 	  = "LeftAlt",
	}

Or whatever keybind you want to use.

[sed-]

ah didnt no they were in the int ty^^

[houstonguy]

im using cuteone and testing yours.. With cute i do 90K dps with yours i only do 40k dps with cooldown used..

[azertyrogue]

im using cuteone and testing yours.. With cute i do 90K dps with yours i only do 40k dps with cooldown used..

What's your iLvl and how long are you testing each profile for? Also, I'm assuming you're doing this on a target dummy with no buffs?

[houstonguy]

no buff my ilvl is 500 and im running 2 cooldowns so around 5 mins i think im doing something wrong -.-

[vitalic]

That is weird

Are you sure it's not in aoe mode or using feint perhaps. If you want to show me on TeamViewer I'll take a look for you, sounds like something is very wrong

[sed-]

very amazing profile! i def added it to the list on my zygor updater ;p,

[ImmortalTech]

I don't really know code too well, so I was wondering if there was a way to add Blood Fury to the cooldowns used when the button is pressed.

[Enuma]

no buff my ilvl is 500 and im running 2 cooldowns so around 5 mins i think im doing something wrong -.-

Check do you have latest version of PQR and rotation and are you having Vitalic's or Starlight's Data file. Be sure that you are using Assassination [Vitalic] as rotation in pqr, that you have AoE mode and Feint off.

Im saying this cause there is most definitely something wrong there. Im having i480, non-gemmed, non-reforged and non-enchanted, im below hit and exp cap and im doing without issues around 58-62k (depends on my luck with hits landed ) on raid dummy selfbuffed just from banquet.

Even Cute says that hes getting better results from Vitalic's profile then from his own.
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