[PQR] Blaythe's Destruction Warlock

[donut87]

What is the Fire and Brimstone rotation? is it for multiple target fights like Stone Guard and Council of Elders?

[mrsalvas]

1.1a feedback

i just did second part or tot LFR in ToT as destro, and i have noticed some things and i also have some suggestion
that i think should be modified,first the trash roration work perfectly, but when you goo with boss ration i thnk that
darksoul is not optimised.

-darksoul- i think that profile should not cast conflagrat during DS execpt if conflagrat stack = 2. i also think that this
profile (boss profile) should not cap embers, caping ember when DS in off cooldown force you to use DS on CD to
be sure to not cap embers ( dps loss > then if not using DS on CD) because somethime you want to time your DS to
sinc it with some boss phases (like first boss if ToT in water)

-fire and bristone- in my LFR i also teste the new AOE roration and its alot beter ( this time its not acting random random)
but the profile is never casting FnB+conflagrate, i think its a dps incrase on a large amount of adds,

- shadowburn- i think it should be used with havoc over chaosbolt. on magaera the profile never did it.
ps: do you think its possible put shadowburn on mouveover, i think it will be super good for sniping adds
in boss fight. in general the most shadowburn you can cast in fight result in higher dps

-i also found a little bug i think, when iam casting while running, the profile cast felflame between cast ( chek in
recount you will see felflame)fel flame should just never be casted all i think

over all nice performace, i am doing bettter then demo in single target with low movement, but when there
is adds, special phasees, multidot etc... i am doing alot better as demo. keep up your nice work this is getting
closer and close to an awsome destruction warlock profile.

[deathndecay]

-i also found a little bug i think, when iam casting while running, the profile cast felflame between cast ( chek in
recount you will see felflame)fel flame should just never be casted all i think
.

Wrong, Fel Flame is the best for dps when moving. (besides hell fire, thats to be kept up 25/8 regardless)

Source:
Destruction Warlock DPS Rotation & Cooldowns - WoW 5.2 (MoP)

[sed-]

lulz @ noxxic,

[Mavmins]

I spent a good 5 hours with Blaythe getting that damned FnB rotation working so I hope it works for you guys !

-fire and bristone- in my LFR i also teste the new AOE roration and its alot beter ( this time its not acting random random)
but the profile is never casting FnB+conflagrate, i think its a dps incrase on a large amount of adds,

I was focused on getting FnB Immolate to work properly to maintain it on the adds, then just did Incinerate because it wasn't much more work. Under what conditions do you want FnB Conflag ? Instead of Incinerate when it is off CD ?
I only sent Blaythe a working FnB abilities file so I don't know how he finally implemented it in his new version but it should be easy to add if you can provide the logic

What is the Fire and Brimstone rotation? is it for multiple target fights like Stone Guard and Council of Elders?

its for trash and aoe. on bosses you are gonna Havoc and multidot, FnB is for lots of adds


Remember to keep Rain of Fire up in FnB rotation, I let it running automatically for 30 minutes when i was testing if my fix worked or not, on 4 targets 95k dps in my demo gear and never low on mana


@Blaythe - If you get any other annoying things like FnB let me know, it was annoying as hell but also quite fun trying to get it working ! Although crystal_tech and those guys could probably fix it faster :/

[mrsalvas]

Wrong, Fel Flame is the best for dps when moving. (besides hell fire, thats to be kept up 25/8 regardless)

Source:
Destruction Warlock DPS Rotation & Cooldowns - WoW 5.2 (MoP)

Noxxic is a good place to get things started with a new spec/classe. but if you want to master all little detail and beat eevryone else. stop looking there and start searching on forums like mmo-champion or elitistjerk.

for fire and brimstone, i am not sure if using it with conflagrate can be a dps ingrease, i am not a pro destro player but, the things is that on 3 target iam doing better damge juste by cleaving with havoc then using the fire and brimstone rotation. but like you said, this is not really used during boss fight.

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iam 99% sure that this source is way better then noxxic. there is alot on information about fire and brimstone but also havoc and shadowburn.

i have trying the help and give some idea. i am logging top 100 as demo on all ToT fight, but there is fight where the other destro warlock still beet me. like magaera, and i think that the profile is underperforming on that fight, i doing like 115K but i should be able to do over 130-140 ( what iam doing as demo). i think the main probleme is that the profile is note using shadowburn with havoc at all.

this profile is really promising and just need a little bit of tuning. i am not complaning i just try to help with my knowledge by giving feed back to Blaythe.

peace

[Mavmins]

Is the any bonus on magera to cleaving ? I've only done it on lfr but if you burn 1 head down at a time is that the same in normal ? Cleaving in this example seems only useful for boosting your recount numbers rather than having any impact on the fight. Ok for other multi target bosses yes but you specifically said magera

[mrsalvas]

Is the any bonus on magera to cleaving ? I've only done it on lfr but if you burn 1 head down at a time is that the same in normal ? Cleaving in this example seems only useful for boosting your recount numbers rather than having any impact on the fight. Ok for other multi target bosses yes but you specifically said magera

if you use havoc with chaosbolt its just gonna increase recount number. but if you use it with backdraft/incinarate, you are gonna generate ALOT more ember and and you will be able to cast more chaosbolt on the main head that mean its gonna boost your single target damage even if you are cleaving two ! 99% of time its better use havoc with chaosbolt but somethime it worth it to use it as an extra ember generator.

use havoce to generate more ember will do less overall dps then use it with chaosbolt, but its gonna do more main target damage due to extra ember so extra shadowburn/chaosbolt

using havoc with shadowburn/chaosbolt on this fight will not decrease dps on the main head, so why not use it to boost your reacount number !! as long as your group dont have probleme to kill the boss. if doing progression it should probably be used to generate ember with incinerate

same with affliction to generate more soulshard, it worth to dot both of them, and for demo to have a better uptime of imp and more fury generation

[blaythe]

I wake up to a bunch of great feedback. Excellent.

Looks buttery now after testing the updates that you made while I was at work, seems like there is still a few spammy clicks just before the next cast but that is naturally human, I can live with that.

Seems there may be something wrong with rain of fire though, It doesnt cast rain of fire when low on mana

Maybe with a little life support it would fix that prob? :P

Not casting Chaos Bolt in main rotation anymore. ( already mentioned above )

FnB needs a chat notification when the rotation entered.

Example:

FN BLOW UP : Enabled
FN BLOW UP : Disabled

Rain of fire is set to not cast if you have less than 40% mana.

The FnB notification is attached to PQI currently as well. I personally dont like it but the switch function is tied to it from the time being from the original profile that mine is based off of. I'll be starting a complete re-write here in the next week or so.

What is the Fire and Brimstone rotation? is it for multiple target fights like Stone Guard and Council of Elders?

Unfortunately the way Mav had to code it makes it decently inefficient on anything less than 3-4 targets. Theoretically you could use it on stone guard but I think the embers would be better spent on havoc'd chaos bolts.

1.1a feedback

i just did second part or tot LFR in ToT as destro, and i have noticed some things and i also have some suggestion
that i think should be modified,first the trash roration work perfectly, but when you goo with boss ration i thnk that
darksoul is not optimised.

-darksoul- i think that profile should not cast conflagrat during DS execpt if conflagrat stack = 2. i also think that this
profile (boss profile) should not cap embers, caping ember when DS in off cooldown force you to use DS on CD to
be sure to not cap embers ( dps loss > then if not using DS on CD) because somethime you want to time your DS to
sinc it with some boss phases (like first boss if ToT in water)

-fire and bristone- in my LFR i also teste the new AOE roration and its alot beter ( this time its not acting random random)
but the profile is never casting FnB+conflagrate, i think its a dps incrase on a large amount of adds,

- shadowburn- i think it should be used with havoc over chaosbolt. on magaera the profile never did it.
ps: do you think its possible put shadowburn on mouveover, i think it will be super good for sniping adds
in boss fight. in general the most shadowburn you can cast in fight result in higher dps

-i also found a little bug i think, when iam casting while running, the profile cast felflame between cast ( chek in
recount you will see felflame)fel flame should just never be casted all i think

over all nice performace, i am doing bettter then demo in single target with low movement, but when there
is adds, special phasees, multidot etc... i am doing alot better as demo. keep up your nice work this is getting
closer and close to an awsome destruction warlock profile.

The dark soul optimisation is about where it should be imo. I have no way to check for a "first use" type thing. so it would come down to having 4 embers at the time when you needed to use DS, or having 3 embers all the time and risk only having ~3 when you needed to use DS.

I don't personally like it using Conflag during Dark Soul. Still looking for advice on that as I feel it takes away from burst during Dark Soul. However, I'm fairly sure Conflag -> Incinerate x 2-3 (depending on Backdraft) >>>> 1 Chaos Bolt, but I could be wrong. I've played affliction since cata and destro is a new beast to me.

The Fel Flame bug, I'm looking into. I don't think it should be doing that if you're specc'd into KJC.

if you use havoc with chaosbolt its just gonna increase recount number. but if you use it with backdraft/incinarate, you are gonna generate ALOT more ember and and you will be able to cast more chaosbolt on the main head that mean its gonna boost your single target damage even if you are cleaving two ! 99% of time its better use havoc with chaosbolt but somethime it worth it to use it as an extra ember generator.

use havoce to generate more ember will do less overall dps then use it with chaosbolt, but its gonna do more main target damage due to extra ember so extra shadowburn/chaosbolt

using havoc with shadowburn/chaosbolt on this fight will not decrease dps on the main head, so why not use it to boost your reacount number !! as long as your group dont have probleme to kill the boss. if doing progression it should probably be used to generate ember with incinerate

same with affliction to generate more soulshard, it worth to dot both of them, and for demo to have a better uptime of imp and more fury generation

I understand what you're saying. The thing is that's only 1 fight out of an entire teir and that would require rewriting the entire logic for Havoc and I'm not sure how I'd go about that. Remember, I'm still very new at this and I'm learning as I go along.


Thanks for all the feedback

[Aegeus]

Just done all the LFR's on my Warlock (477 Ilvl) and did excellent DPS and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. I'm new to Warlocks though, so my feedback can be taken with a pinch of salt

For what it's worth though, great profile. Have some rep and some CoreCoins!

[Mavmins]

The DarkSoul Ember saving is optimal in my opinion. If you dont like it, use Mouse3 to fire off a chaosbolt on your own

Something quirky going on with havoc when i stressed it, works 85% of the time but others its got 4 embers, DS is on CD, it applies havoc then casts immolate ? i haven't been through the code since the major update so im gonna check out the logic and test it some more

[mrsalvas]

is it normal that the profiledont cast immolate on focus ? from my test is seem to be a dps inscrease to use it on focus

[billybuffalo]

is this profile better than soapbox's?????

[robinmiles1]

Hey guys, well this seems to have come along alot while i have been away! Mav great job on fixing F&B working awesome atm, I also noticed that it was throwing in a fel flame here and there when i was moving which is a bit of a loss with KJC. You can just put an if at the start to check if KJC is talented.

if IsPlayerSpell(137587) then
return false
else

seems to fix the fel flame for me. Apart from that tiny thing everything else is looking awesome! Going to be raiding tonight so ill post back when im done!

[LazyRaider]

you could answer that by testing them both out for yourself.

IMO it is.. proper CB weaving is amazing