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    Apocalypse59's Avatar Knight
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    Originally Posted by andreaspts View Post
    holy shit, who is gonna dps for me now? xD
    I'm wondering the same thing. My Rogue and Boomkin are pretty much getting shelved.

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    I have made an assassination profile for my personal use that I will release in light of this news, sadly can't help with the boomy though.

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    Originally Posted by Nerder View Post
    Just to let everyone know, I'm no longer going to play World of Warcraft anymore. I apologize for your inconveniences but that means no more real support on improving the profiles.
    Wow nerder, this is very sad. You were a tremendous help. Good luck in the future!

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    Given that Nerder is no longer working on his assassination profile, here is my updated Blinded assassination profile for 5.3: Blinded_Rogue_5.3.rar

    I haven't touched Combat so not sure if that is working

    Features I added:

    - Better CD toggle (on/boss only/off)
    - Fixed engineering gloves issue
    - Fan of Knives (hold left control)
    - Smart Auto restealth when leaving combat
    - Auto-targeting in combat
    - Use spare combo points on slice/recupe when switching targets
    - Redirect
    - Vanish > Mutilate (only on bosses)
    - Much better energy pooling, envenom/rupture management
    - Better anticipation usage
    - Better opener/cooldown usage
    - Auto poisons
    - Tricks of the Trade

    As far as I'm aware this is the only muti profile that does the proper opener and perfect buff management

    Credits: Blinded for the original profile, Nerder for some codes



    I've also released a different version for people with T15 4pc set bonus, which uses a different opener to align Vendetta/Shadow Blades:

    Blinded_Rogue_5.3_4pc.rar

    Video of rotation in action:



    There is no fancy shit like PQI integration, I have no plans to do that, if you want to change something or remove the crap i added edit the profile yourself
    Last edited by vitalic; 06-04-2013 at 11:30 AM.

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    Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    ... As far as I'm aware this is the only muti profile that does the proper opener and perfect buff management ...
    Challenge Accepted!
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    Originally Posted by ph34rt3hcute1 View Post
    Challenge Accepted!
    I tried your profile out and it wouldn't use cooldowns on the training dummy, aside from that the opener was wrong (used two mutilates before putting rupture up) and there was no energy pooling, it cast envenom right before rupture was about to fall off. Don't base anything off noxxic/icy veins, they are awful.

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    Apocalypse59's Avatar Knight
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    Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    Given that Nerder is no longer working on his assassination profile, here is my updated Blinded assassination profile for 5.3: Blinded_Rogue_5.3.rar

    I haven't touched Combat so not sure if that is working

    Features I added:

    - Fan of Knives (hold left control)
    - Smart Auto restealth when leaving combat
    - Auto-targeting in combat
    - Use spare combo points on slice/recupe when switching targets
    - Redirect
    - Vanish > Mutilate (only on bosses)
    - Much better energy pooling, envenom/rupture management
    - Better anticipation usage
    - Better opener/cooldown usage
    - Auto poisons

    As far as I'm aware this is the only muti profile that does the proper opener and perfect buff management

    There is no fancy shit like PQI integration, I have no plans to do that, if you want to change something or remove the crap i added edit the profile yourself
    Thanks for sharing bro, +rep.

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    Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    I tried your profile out and it wouldn't use cooldowns on the training dummy, aside from that the opener was wrong (used two mutilates before putting rupture up) and there was no energy pooling, it cast envenom right before rupture was about to fall off. Don't base anything off noxxic/icy veins, they are awful.
    And with information like that, and other tips from the community I can now improve it =)
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    Originally Posted by vitalic View Post

    where's the slice and dice in your buff? :confused:

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    Originally Posted by fddbzz View Post
    where's the slice and dice in your buff? :confused:
    It was up already, the uptime is 100% always, think I started the combat log late on that boss kill so it bugged

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    Originally Posted by ph34rt3hcute1 View Post
    And with information like that, and other tips from the community I can now improve it =)
    There are so many little things to think about with assassination, I've been playing a Rogue since the launch of Wrath and the spec is more deceptively complex now than it has ever been, I don't think you can make a profile for it based off of a website, it takes a lot of trial and error to get it even close to optimal, and a lot of reading and research and watching videos of top 10 world guilds. There are a lot of edge-case things as well which are difficult to code in, for example using Vanish>Mutilate situationally to smooth out dips in Envenom uptime, rather than just using it on cooldown (I haven't managed to nail that yet).

    Nerder's profile by the end was the best I've seen but even that has some flaws and the opener was messed up last time I checked. I can't even begin to say how bad most of the Rogue profiles are, like you would never get into an even semi-decent guild with those profiles.

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    Originally Posted by vitalic View Post
    There are so many little things to think about with assassination, I've been playing a Rogue since the launch of Wrath and the spec is more deceptively complex now than it has ever been, I don't think you can make a profile for it based off of a website, it takes a lot of trial and error to get it even close to optimal, and a lot of reading and research and watching videos of top 10 world guilds. There are a lot of edge-case things as well which are difficult to code in, for example using Vanish>Mutilate situationally to smooth out dips in Envenom uptime, rather than just using it on cooldown (I haven't managed to nail that yet).

    Nerder's profile by the end was the best I've seen but even that has some flaws and the opener was messed up last time I checked. I can't even begin to say how bad most of the Rogue profiles are, like you would never get into an even semi-decent guild with those profiles.
    Well I certainly have my work cut out for me then, I have every confidence that my profile will get there.
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    fddbzz's Avatar Master Sergeant
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    cuteone's profile are actually pair with nerder's profile if you test it on dummy.

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    ph34rt3hcute1's Avatar Contributor Authenticator enabled
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    and I am a perfectionist, albeit lazy lol
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    Originally Posted by fddbzz View Post
    cuteone's profile are actually pair with nerder's profile if you test it on dummy.
    training dummies are unreliable, especially for assassination, you need to use WoL or something similar to look at the important metrics like envenom and rupture up time, a lot of the small dps gains won't even be noticeable on a training dummy, but they will be on a 5 minute+ fight with full raid buffs/potions/bloodlust etc

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