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    Ninjaderp's Avatar Banned
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    If equal quality as your affliction, then I would guess EVERYBODY should be interested ^^

    Also I havent read through the whole thread, but on the last pages it seems pretty even between Demo and Affli, have a look:
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    Once everyone gets meta gems, it's going to be: Affliction Supremacy = Demo > Destro (destro got destroyed in my opinion).
    Without the gems, it will be: Demo = Affliction Supremacy > Destro.

    Demo has to be played correctly though, which includes:
    -- Shadowflame weaving (Explained here)
    -- Proper use of meta (Explained here)
    -- Soul fire inside of meta sub 25% or during high procs. (Explained here)
    -- Proper use of Molten Core, it's good to use them with procs and you can actually hold onto them instead of wasting them.

    During aoe you want to maintain corruption, in an aoe situation you never refresh corruption manually. Void Ray maintains it.
    -- The main fury burn while AoEing is going to be Void ray while maintaining Immolation aura and the player mouseover dooming every add and maintaining it after that.
    -- Channel Hellfire outside of Meta to gain fury along with the player having corruption on everything.

    Here's a good post on Mmo-champ that I got everything from, 5.1 Demonology Warlock Guide. All in all I think demo will be your biggest challenge yet :P.
    Last edited by Kinkeh; 02-28-2013 at 01:00 PM.

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    Honestly I think demo is getting way buffed(which honestly seems a little pointless to me since its supposed to be the leveling spec) and affliction got a minor buff and a major nerf.
    In terms of scaling I still believe affliction will scale a lot better with the next set of gear, whereas demo will be stuck with too many side stats and not enough intellect to balance it out. So far I've seen haste cap on demo, crit at 65%, and the rest mastery. But that is achievable with the current set of gear. So adding more secondary stats probably won't help as much as say affliction, where its near damn difficult to get haste cap, and the scaling on mastery is much lower than that of demo thus if we assume at the current tier it takes more to meet the requirements for affliction, the extra that will come with the higher gear I think will increase the dps on affliction more than the increase we will see from demo.
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    Originally Posted by Kinkeh View Post
    Once everyone gets meta gems, it's going to be: Affliction Supremacy = Demo > Destro (destro got destroyed in my opinion).
    Without the gems, it will be: Demo = Affliction Supremacy > Destro.

    Demo has to be played correctly though, which includes:
    -- Shadowflame weaving (Explained here)
    -- Proper use of meta (Explained here)
    -- Soul fire inside of meta sub 25% or during high procs. (Explained here)
    -- Proper use of Molten Core, it's good to use them with procs and you can actually hold onto them instead of wasting them.

    During aoe you want to maintain corruption, in an aoe situation you never refresh corruption manually. Void Ray maintains it.
    -- The main fury burn while AoEing is going to be Void ray while maintaining Immolation aura and the player mouseover dooming every add and maintaining it after that.
    -- Channel Hellfire outside of Meta to gain fury along with the player having corruption on everything.

    Here's a good post on Mmo-champ that I got everything from, 5.1 Demonology Warlock Guide. All in all I think demo will be your biggest challenge yet :P.
    and since I love challenges...it's on!
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    My god this demo profile is really a challenge :P
    work..work...
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    Originally Posted by nilrem2004 View Post
    My god this demo profile is really a challenge :P
    work..work...
    Well it's worth it, think of all the love you'll get for making an awesome Demo profile

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    Well single target is done, does around 96-100k dps on dummy on wrong reforge and gems (was in affliction gear)
    Now waiting for LFR to see some real numbers.
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    How does that compare to your affliction spec ? oh and which Grimoire are you using ?

    I find demonology quite fun to play and have been using the Nova profile which works great, but I love your Affliction profile, it just suits my style of play and has everything covered.
    If you need anyone else to test it I would love to.
    Last edited by Mavmins; 03-02-2013 at 08:56 AM.

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    Well my affliction is much stronger than demo, especially bcs affliction takes advantage of dynamic dot refreshing , a thing that don't go well with demo, and when you compare specs in simulationcraft it puts demo above affliction, but they don't have dynamic dot refreshing for affli, so in fact affli is a bit stronger than demo.

    what I need now is suggestions for AoE, and what to do with void ray, it's preety crappy.
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    Ohh man if only nilrem could pull off a demo profile as seci as his aff i would cream my self reguardless keep up the great work melting faces 16/16h with his exculsive aff profile

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    Well profile is going very good for now, I have only minor issue.... I put felguard to attack and on bosses if tank looses aggro I die like instant bcs of soul link :P
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    ok.... I was a nab....didn't turn off threatening presence for pet :P
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    Nilrem did you get my pm?

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    Nil,

    Don't forget Demo is basically get a full on buffs in 5.2

    •Hand of Gul'dan now deals 15% more damage.
    •Shadowflame now deals 15% more damage.
    •Soul Fire now deals 22% more damage.
    •Touch of Chaos now deals 15% more damage.
    •Wild Imp's Firebolt now deals 15% more damage.

    Do you think something like that would make up the differences between your AFF and Demo profile?

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    Any chance you will release this profile soon Nilrem ? Would love to try it out and compare to your exclusive affliction one

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