[PQRotation] Firepong's PQR Profile's Feedback - Comments - Question's?

[CharleyWex]

Hey Firepong,
I've been a long time user of PQR, basically since the beginning playing a paladin and mainly using Buba's profiles. Late in Cataclysm I started using your rotation for my feral druid and I'll have to say its by far the best.

I just wanted to mention that I tried the incarnation change instead of using SotF and had the opposite results of cukiemunster. This could be to variances in gear level as my feral is DS geared but only 1 piece of heroic gear. That leads me to believe that its possible that at higher ilvl gear where energy regeneration is faster, incarnation may be more beneficial than SotF. Just curious as to what your results have been between the two.

[firepong]

Hey Firepong,
I've been a long time user of PQR, basically since the beginning playing a paladin and mainly using Buba's profiles. Late in Cataclysm I started using your rotation for my feral druid and I'll have to say its by far the best.

I just wanted to mention that I tried the incarnation change instead of using SotF and had the opposite results of cukiemunster. This could be to variances in gear level as my feral is DS geared but only 1 piece of heroic gear. That leads me to believe that its possible that at higher ilvl gear where energy regeneration is faster, incarnation may be more beneficial than SotF. Just curious as to what your results have been between the two.

I actually have yet to use Soul of the forest. I'll try it out real quick and let you know how it goes.

[cukiemunster]

Hey Firepong,
I've been a long time user of PQR, basically since the beginning playing a paladin and mainly using Buba's profiles. Late in Cataclysm I started using your rotation for my feral druid and I'll have to say its by far the best.

I just wanted to mention that I tried the incarnation change instead of using SotF and had the opposite results of cukiemunster. This could be to variances in gear level as my feral is DS geared but only 1 piece of heroic gear. That leads me to believe that its possible that at higher ilvl gear where energy regeneration is faster, incarnation may be more beneficial than SotF. Just curious as to what your results have been between the two.

Just as a character gear comparison, I will linked my masked armory, but I am BiS except for a trinket and ring.


Level 85 Tauren Druid | WoW World of Warcraft Armory Profiles | Masked Armory

[firepong]

With my numbers, in 401 iLVL gear on my druid, I pulled 33.6k with SotF and 38.1k with Incarnation. I guess in a sense, you could say it's gear dependent.

Also, 1.4.1 uploaded. Finally fixed the Shred spam. Also, added Main into the rotation for use in Battlegrounds if you use my rotation. I also have on-use trinkets disabled for the time being because of that.

[firepong]

For whoever uses my profile, please download the latest update to get the latest Data file. Now Has the MapID's updated for all BG areas to make Maim work fully.

[cukiemunster]

Did you see the post on the main PQR page saying that Rake should be used as a filler instead of shred/mangle? Shred should only be used to extend Rip, apparently Rake is doing more initial dmg now. I havent tested this yet, but figured id bring it to your attention in case you wanted to test it.

EDIT: 3 complete Berserk cycles to test out Rake raw damage(No dot) vs Shred dmg, Rake dmg was 4,763,028, but I am having trouble getting Shred to spam regardless of CP's, I have removed everything other than buffs during my Rake test so that I would get as much dmg as possible for the comparison.

EDIT2: I just left shred alone in the rotation, but one thing I did do is swapped out the Rake spellid for the Mangle spellid in the Mangle ability, so during Ultrax it Rakes instead of mangle, since Rake seemed to be on par pretty much with Shred as far as raw damage. Ended up with 54.6k dps on 25 H Ultrax. Not too shabby, but since I missed last weeks raid, idk how this compares to using Mangle instead.

[Gabbz]

Regarding the Rake vs Shred discussion. I tested a Rake filler rotation and notices roughly the same dps however in a raid scenario you will get 10% more mastery which means that Rake damage is 10% more as well.And of course you need to reforfe to Mastery in order for this to be a dps gain. Will test it when i raid DS25 but then again it will not stand in tier 14 since blizzard of course will fix it somehow.

[cukiemunster]

Ya, I reforge Mastery as priority anyways, Mastery>Crit>Haste personally. Everything gets reforged for max mastery.

[firepong]

Yeah, I'm just going to leave my rotation as it is. Besides the links either cukie posted or whoever posted in the main PQRotation thread, I have been reading around in the Blizzard thread as well and a lot more posts than that one was mentioned about Rake. If it is not changed come release, then I'll update the rotation. But for right now, since its right at 3 weeks till release, I'm not going to bother. Everything right now is working great in the profile, no reason to change it around even more.

And like I was saying in the main thread, the main hit of Rake before the bleed application shouldn't be affected by Mastery. From what I'm seeing, it is and needs to be fixed. I don't believe blizzard intended for us to remove Shred/Mangle from our rotation for 95% of a fight.

[cukiemunster]

Any chance you could add a function to enter cat form when entering combat? I would LOOVE to use your profiles with HB, but the plugin I use to use, persistantkitty, is broken. Doesn't have to be added in, I can add it into my copy if the coding to do so isn't difficult. Many thanks for an awesome profile.

EDIT: Nvm, threw something together based off of Avery's seal ability. Not perfect, but it works =]
Any luck convincing Sheuron to allow you to use their aoe/single target coding?

[cukiemunster]

Also, I ran FL tonight, and for some reason, your AoE profiles kept stopping, and I am not sure why. PQR interface does not work anymore, so I had no way of telling on the fly what spell it hung up on. If i swapped over to your single target rotation and back after a few spells, it would continue on like a champ, but just stopping the aoe one and restarting it didn't fix it. This is the first time that I have run into this, and I even restarted PQR, and reloaded my ui, still kept happening all through the raid. Not sure if there is much you can do, but thought I would bring it to your attention.

[firepong]

Also, I ran FL tonight, and for some reason, your AoE profiles kept stopping, and I am not sure why. PQR interface does not work anymore, so I had no way of telling on the fly what spell it hung up on. If i swapped over to your single target rotation and back after a few spells, it would continue on like a champ, but just stopping the aoe one and restarting it didn't fix it. This is the first time that I have run into this, and I even restarted PQR, and reloaded my ui, still kept happening all through the raid. Not sure if there is much you can do, but thought I would bring it to your attention.

Yeah, it could possibly be Savage Roar. If you don't have it glyphed, and the target you have targeted isn't the target the Combo Point's from Swipe is on, then you won't have Savage Roar. From my testing, it's a major DPS lose to Swipe/Thrash without Save Roar up. Just to much Damage lose. So I have it coded into Thrash and Swipe to only fire off when Savage Roar is up.

[TheLordJesusHimself]

your feral tank profile isnt working for me :s


Message: [string "if PQR_Addon_Loaded == nil then..."]:979: Usage: UnitBuff("unit", [index] or ["name", "rank"][, "filter"])
Time: 09/09/12 17:23:42
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Stack: [C]: ?
[C]: in function `UnitBuff'
[string "if PQR_Addon_Loaded == nil then..."]:979: in function `UnitBuffID'
[string "local motwbuff = UnitBuffID("Player", 79061..."]:1: in function `?'
[string "if PQR_Addon_Loaded == nil then..."]:737: in function `PQR_NextAbility'
[string "if PQR_Addon_Loaded == nil then..."]:533: in function `PQR_ExecuteRotation'
[string "if PQR_Addon_Loaded == nil then..."]:289: in function <[string "if PQR_Addon_Loaded == nil then..."]:214>

[popeofdope]

The Data file for the enhance rotation seems to be missing. I downloaded the profile and went into PQR and clicked "Download Update" however the data file did not get downloaded. Trying to go to the location of this file manually doesn't work: http://pqrotation-profiles.googlecod...ireEnhance.lua
Any idea where it has been moved to?

Also the talent build in the description leads to a hunter build

[firepong]

Both the feral tank and shaman enhance profiles are old. I'll probably get around to clearing both of them from the page as shaman enhance dps is just to low right now to support. As for feral tank, Gabbz I heard has a nice one that works.

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